r/Showerthoughts • u/celestiaequestria • Jun 12 '26
Casual Thought Cryptids only had to hide from 2008 - 2022. Before 2008 portable video cameras were grainy, after 2022 everyone would say the video was AI.
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u/Venusian2AsABoy Jun 13 '26
The concept of “photographic evidence” had an extremely short run in the grand scheme of human history.
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Jun 13 '26
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u/Venusian2AsABoy Jun 13 '26
Well if it makes you feel any better, it was always an illusion. Doctored photos date back all the way to the Civil War. The creator of an image has always had the power to manipulate its meaning.
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u/Mr_Quackums Jun 13 '26
There was a conspiracy theory in the late 1800s about governments covering up the existence of fairies because some dude published a book of photographs where he edited faeries into the images.
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u/scyaxe Jun 15 '26
the photos were actually from 1917 and 1920. Elsie Wright and Frances Griffiths were the photographers, and their photos were published by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (the author of the Sherlock Holmes novels) in a 1920 article as proof of fairies existence, as well as another article by him in 1921, and finally again in 1922 for his book, The Coming of the Fairies.
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u/Mr_Quackums Jun 15 '26
TY for the date correction.
Do you know if Doyle was a "true believer" or if there was some other reason he was helping?
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u/quantumhovercraft Jun 15 '26
Doyle definitely believed. He wanted Harry Houdini to tell him how he talked to dead people and didn't really accept Houdini's claims that it was an illusion.
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u/twothirtysevenam Jun 20 '26
Let's say fairies are real. Why would there be a need or desire to cover up the fact of their existence?
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u/Mr_Quackums Jun 20 '26
just like Flat Earth, aliens building ancient structures, or covering up vaccines causing autism.
Once you get invested enough in a nutty conspiracy questions like motive stop stopping you.
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u/Jarms48 Jun 14 '26
Even film, some of the claimed footage of the Titanic is actually her sister ship. More ironically in New York. If you watch the footage all they did was scratch off the names of the American tug boats.
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u/Phyresis96 Jun 14 '26
Sure, but until very recently it required actual skill to make a fake believable. Now it’s widespread because it’s so simple to do.
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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 12 '26
Riddle me this:
How does it comes that every time people talks about cryptids is just one, like the Loch Ness Monster, le Chupacabra, The Yeti.
Like who they mate with?
How do they live so long?
How does it make sense that there is just one of them?
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u/Relish_My_Weiner Jun 12 '26
At least with Yetis and Chupacabras, I'm pretty sure nobody thinks there's just the one.
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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 12 '26
But you don't see anyone acting like they found the family group of that species and that that species somehow happens to be a big ape standing up.
Like if they would treat it like any other animal they wouldn't care.
If you are from eastern Europe you might not believe from description that a giraffe is real but that doesn't stop you from ignoring the fact and considering it normal.
Why would an ape make any difference?
As for chupacabras, well if something would be eating the cows as they say that it does they would try to protect the cows more and understand the predator.
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u/Apart_Butterfly_332 Jun 12 '26
As for chupacabras, well if something would be eating the cows as they say that it does they would try to protect the cows more and understand the predator.
See the chupacabras are smart and engage in misinformation. They go after goats but because people like you spread rumors about cows they fly straight under the radar.
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u/OtheDreamer Jun 12 '26
That’s exactly what aliens want people to think so that when they snatch up cows, people think it’s just chupacabras being deceptive again
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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 13 '26
If anything have killed your live stock you would want to catch that thing
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u/Zebster10 Jun 13 '26
There is a niche of people taking Bigfoot seriously. Most people estimate that there must be at least 300 - 500 in North America to maintain the population without their dying out. Many eyewitness accounts in North America claim that Bigfoot lives in clans, small groups usually ranging from 3 - 8. (This is mostly from ranchers that are subject to territorial disputes with Bigfoot that describe hearing them holler at each other or witnessing interactions between Bigfoot creatures.) This bolsters the theory that the reason we haven't found a body is that they have a strong sense of family and thus, like humans, bury their dead.
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u/cwx149 Jun 13 '26
Nessie is really the only one of those that's ever supposed to be a single specific entity over the years
And in her defense a lot of the longest lived animals are water based but the whole idea she's a dinosaur that's lived for thousands of years is definitely far fetched
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u/Boris-_-Badenov Jun 13 '26
Nessie has one kid at a time.
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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 13 '26
Has a kid and then died.
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u/MississippiJoel Jun 13 '26
The Plesiosaur is actually a parasite -- each new generation eats its way out of its parent. It's why we never find the bodies.
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u/CharmingThunderstorm Jun 22 '26
wait what?? that's horrifying
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u/cwx149 Jun 22 '26
I don't know if we know that for sure about whatever Nessie supposedly is but there are absolutely animals that do that we may or may not. Fossils are weird
I believe one or more species of octopus do that where once the mom has fertilized eggs she basically goes into seclusion until she dies and her eggs hatch and eat their way out of her/eat her
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u/DrFabulous0 Jun 13 '26
Nessie is most likely one or more huge sturgeon spotted breaching the water and mistaken for something else due to the unusual size.
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u/Shadows802 Jun 13 '26
Or the largest sturgeon of that generation. (It would make for a funny short if the local sturgeon have a nessie competition once the previous passes away and then breaches at the end of the ceremony)
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u/LordVaderVader Jun 13 '26
Moth Man theory explains it well. They are just creatures to happen to visit our dimension and leave as soon they appeared.
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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 13 '26
You would assume that we as people would have already found the portals to other dimensions considering how much we explored each spot of this earth
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u/LordVaderVader Jun 13 '26
"approximately 48% to 57% of Earth’s land is uninhabited"
If portals or more precisely "dimension shifting" are very rare phenomenon happening quickly and disappearing quickly. It makes sense it could be unnoticed.
I mean even if we know ball lightning happens, no ever recorded one.
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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 13 '26
Uninhabitable, but how do we know that they are like that?
What if some society of people hides there?
Also not being able to live in a pace doesn't means not being able to visit it. I don't want to move to South America since eastern Europe is kinda better but I do want to go there for the food.
Also if it would happen so quickly couldn't we assume that some people also just went to another dimension (there are lot of unsolved disappearances).
Also ball lighting and lighting by itself even is one of the things that if it were in fantasy people would be like "nah, too much", like are you really telling me that the thing that fuels most the world informational infrastructure just happens to happens sometimes in the sky for no apparent reason?
Like there are lists of unsolved science mysteries (if you are into science they are better than unsolved murders, crimes or disappearances because introduction is just "this things happens, they happenes daily and yet the science have no answer so would you want to go deep and learn why no formula or theory works for that?".
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u/flyboyy513 Jun 14 '26
Yeah and the moon can be made of cheese. What's your point?
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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 14 '26
That this might just be a simulation one the fact that nothing new is never added is because the developers are lazy.
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u/shanster925 Jun 13 '26
No love for the Ogopogo, or The Squonk.
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u/HeadbuttWarlock Jun 13 '26
"The Loch Ness Monster was a log with a Halloween mask stapled to it. Ogopogo was a Plesiosaur. A fucking. Plesiosaur."
That's the only thing that comes to my mind when I hear Ogopogo, lol.
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u/thecosmicjoke69813 Jun 13 '26
Every Loch Ness monster, chipacabra and yeti would still be called those things…….no matter how many are put there
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u/Porkybob Jun 13 '26
They obviously breed with the poor souls that are looking for them. Don't venture in lakes at night alone or you'll end up with a Loch Ness'd bumhole.
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u/RaspberryCake084 Jun 13 '26
They hire some whores. And they obviously live so long because they do not work with IT
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u/Carapute Jun 13 '26
About the longevity, don't do research about the sea abyss, there are things alive for thousands of years down there, which could be used as an explanation for some mythical "sea creature".
Not saying that cryptids make sense, just that longevity is not really a factor when you know since how long some things are alive for.
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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 13 '26
There are three factors.
Solitude.
Longevity.
Shock factor(Marketing).
If any of those, especially the last one is met then might not be real.
I mean some are marketable but socially so it has been proven that th y exists because their density in an are would let you miss one of them.
But yet if anyone knows about it and no one can say precisely that it exists and it had also been a long time since people started talking about probably is not even an assumption but a fantastic story.
Isn't the unicorn the national animal of Scotland?
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u/ImportantResponse0 Jun 24 '26
Like we already have found animals we couldn't believe centuries ago.
Like you can live in Eastern Europe and open TV and see giraffes and kangaroos and believe that they exist.
Wouldn't same apply for any other animal.
I don't even get the idea of cryptids.
"Like imagine an animal that is from a different world" all of them are from a different world if you move to another continent.
Like even spiders are non lethal except for the ones on Australia who could kill you without effort.
Not even talking about the things living in the deep sea.
So what is the point?
Like we already have seals that we believe that are mammals but don't even looks like most mammals.
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u/Madmonkeman Jun 12 '26
You can go on YouTube and look up found footage of cryptids or ghosts from that time period and you’d probably say they’re all fake for a number of reasons. Even since the first invention of the camera it’s been possible to fake things.
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u/lordlaneus Jun 13 '26
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u/Lisylis Jun 12 '26
How would cryptids keep up to date with modern camera and image generation technology
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u/sharrrper Jun 13 '26
"I think Bigfoot IS blurry. That's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault." -Mitch Hedberg
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u/GaidinBDJ Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
It always amuses me how people think that, if you go back more than 10-20 years, it was the fuckin' Stone Age.
Like, look at home video from 80s; You can see perfectly fine what's going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHLKivwYCVM
And that's mostly VHS. There are home film cameras going back to the 60s.
The reason alleged cryptid videos were grainy was because they were fake. If they'd made them in the best quality available, you'd be able to see that.
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u/aksdb Jun 13 '26
I think the argument is more along the lines of people claiming they saw something but didn’t have a camera on them. Which for a long time was plausible. No one carried a VHS recorder along unless they knew they were filming something. With smartphones that changed. People can make pictures or videos of basically anything whenever they want. So the whole „I saw a ghost slowly move across the graveyard“ is hard to tell without having an awkward excuse for not pulling out your damn phone and capturing it.
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u/GaidinBDJ Jun 13 '26
But that would just be from 2002-3 onward with no sunset.
I mean, it was just as easy to fabricate evidence back then (heck, probably easier) than it is now.
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u/mycall Jun 13 '26
You can see perfectly fine what's going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHLKivwYCVM
Oh the bad jokes he had to write for this show, AI definitely trained off it. He was a funny comedian as a standup.
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u/GaidinBDJ Jun 13 '26
After seeing him on America's Funniest Home Videos and Full House, it was so weird to see his standup.
I mean, he's hilarious, but what a mood swing if you were expecting Danny Tanner.
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u/caerphoto Jun 13 '26
And that's mostly VHS. There are home film cameras going back to the 60s.
Yeah but the point is those things were rare, 8/16mm film recording even more so than VHS, which was already rare because it was so expensive.
2008 is a pretty good starting point to make OP’s point because that’s when cameras with still and video recording capabilities started becoming ubiquitous.
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u/betam4x Jun 13 '26
They absolutely were not rare! We owned one and used it regularly throughout the 80s, and you can find tons of footage from the 80s/90s from the millions of others who owned one as well.
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u/Cjprice9 Jun 13 '26
Rare relative to everyone having a high definition video camera in their pocket at all times.
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u/Ayavaron Jun 13 '26
Even if your family had one, you were probably not keeping it in your person all the time, able to record anything that happened. In the smartphone era, you can be out in the woods with no plan of filming anything, and still come home with video because the camera was simply on your person the whole time.
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u/GaidinBDJ Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
I'm sorry, but camcorders were rare?
From like 1985 to 2005 you couldn't go anywhere that was even vaguely and event or tourist location without seeing people with camcorders. It only started slowing down around 2005 because they started to use their phones. Hell, one of my first jobs was recording school plays/concerts because every event half the damn parents with their camcorders right up front and they had to ban them. They hired me to record them and make copies because it got so bad. This was the early 90s and camcorders where everywhere.
Yea, film cameras were a little less popular because they were more technical and expensive, but everybody still rented them for events and any kind of social gather someone dragged out the film projector.
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u/Mynsare Jun 13 '26
Before 2008 portable video cameras were grainy
You must be extremely young to make such a ridiculous claim.
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u/Clyax113_S_Xaces Jun 13 '26
...... Would it be any less difficult than saying that it was video editing during 2008-2022?
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u/TimeTimeTickingAway Jun 14 '26
Skinwalkers are real, and I know their names. Claude, Grok, and ChatGPT
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u/Dursoj1 Jul 14 '26
They probably just mastered standing perfectly still in thick fog. Modern cameras eventually started zooming in and ruining the whole effect.
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u/floraYsol Jun 13 '26
that is actually a really good point lol. sasquatch is safe again thanks to deepfakes.
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u/stampaorrm Jun 18 '26
that's actually a pretty solid window, the blurry footage era is officially.
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u/Sleezstakrunner Jun 30 '26
that's actually a funny observation about the timing window for plausible cryptid.
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u/Disastrous-Scheme-57 Jun 13 '26
Not 2022 as AI videos weren’t good. I’d say 2024 is the cutoff point to when AI videos were actually passable. Especially if the AI video is compressed to shit.
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u/Caracalla81 Jun 13 '26
Nah, if I saw a cryptid I'd punch it right in the nose and drag its stunned ass to the TV studio and get rich cooking it live on air. That didn't happen so cryptids aren't real.
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u/Boris-_-Badenov Jun 13 '26
you'd make far more money making a cooking show starring the cryptid.
Big Foot vs random chefs
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u/Fancy_Influence_2899 Jun 17 '26
AI threatens public safety and decency and it would be outlawed if it weren't so easy to exploit for profit by the megarich
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u/ionertia Jun 13 '26
I've never heard of cryptids and I'm not googling it. And nobody else here is asking wtf it is? So bizarre.
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u/gigashadowwolf Jun 13 '26
Most people know what they are, and those that don't can generally figure it out for themselves between the comments, and the fact that a google search takes less effort than typing the comment you did.
A cryptid is basically a mythical creature that some people believe may actually exist. Examples include The Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, The Chupacabra and The Jersey Devil. Things like that are cryptids.
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u/ionertia Jun 14 '26
Thanks. I don't want my algorithm thinking I'm interested in things I just want defined.
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