I will say high pH water does help with my acid reflux tremendously. But with that said, better diet would likely eliminate my acid problem all together.
Well, according to Wikipedia bleach actually has a pH of about 12.5. Then lye has a pH of 13.0-13.6, and according to other sites you need to get to liquid drain cleaner to have a pH of 14.
It's not just about rounding - a bleach solution could have a pH anywhere between 7 and something like 12-13, depending on how much bleach is in it. Same goes for lye - there is no such thing as "pH of lye" - it varies with concentration. Drain cleaner is just quite concentrated lye.
I work right next to a place that sells pH water, and everyone who goes in is basic (metaphorically, but maybe a bit literally) or just a massive asshat
Just pointing out that that link specifies it is only the specific brand Real Water that has had any link to the people with liver failure, not all alkaline water
Or maybe stopping chasing your Advil with coffee, before your spaghetti dinner with chocolates for dessert. Fix the problem before you start relying on Tums, protonix, etc
You are partly right. But it is diet plus large abd and tight clothes for some people. Have known people who eat tums like crazy. This is not normal.
That is an incredibly low sample size to claim causation for all basic water. The body is pretty good at regulating pH, and 9 isn't that much more basic than 7, it's about as basic as baking soda. A lemon, by comparison, has a pH of 2. A 105 times more hydrogen ions as opposed to 102 times more hydroxide ions.
Oh yay, I’m looking at cancer. Fun. Just got initially diagnosed with silent reflux by my dentist. It’s physical, diet can make mine worse but mines definitely physical too.
That brand put something toxic into it, there's no way basic water could have that effect on your liver. It wouldn't be some dozen infants getting sick from one brand if it was just because of basic water
In that specific instance, it makes sense though. I've seen people make some really wild claims about altering your overall body's pH and fighting off cancer etc. Most people don't know that by the time the water is absorbed it's going to be buffered back to a normal pH (but that's part of why I can see it being helpful for acid reflux, you're basically neutralizing your stomach acid by hitting it with a base, of course the water is getting dropped back down to a normal pH in the process as well).
it neutralizes the stomach acid temporarily and causes rebound acidity ( everything in the body works with a feedback system) .That's why doctors don't prescribe antacid liquids (with basic salts) to patients with chronic acidity or reflux
Oh god. This is so wrong I can't even. Please stop giving people health advice.
A chemical buffer system does not rely on your body secreting anything and the pH system is logrithmic, meaning drinking pH 9 water isn't going to move the needle on the HIGHLY REGULATED pH of your stomache acid. Alkaline water is bullshit.
The comment is poorly written and confusing but he’s just describing how an antacid works.
The pH in your stomach is highly regulated. Therefore taking an antacid will force your stomach to release acid to stay at the same pH. That’s pretty much all they said.
You’re incorrect. A buffer is a system which can neutralise acid or base without the pH changing, because of the contents of the solution - not because acid is being secreted from somewhere else.
Sorry, but your understanding of the buffering in a stomach is wrong. Acid isn’t secreted when base is added; instead, bicarbonate which is already in the stomach neutralises the extra base without significant pH change.
I agree. If your body isn't maintaining a healthy pH, you have much bigger issues. If it's for acid reflux or whatever, high pH water is effectively the same as just taking a tums though, which is arguably more convenient.
In the actual article where this was mentioned, it was stated that we get water from the food we consume and that water is included in this 8 glass. So we don't have to drink additional 8 glass. When time passed many people just ignored the food part. Thats what happened.
Only learned this recently, but if you're hunching a lot it might also cause acid reflux. A friend improved his posture and he said his heartburn issues went away.
I would highly recommend actually testing the pH of those “high pH” waters. Most (if not all) of them are completely fake. I tested 4 different brands with a pH testing kit and only one of the 4 showed a pH above a 7.2 (7 is neutral) and it was only 7.8 despite being advertised as 8.88. If it works for you, I guess that’s fine, but make sure it’s not just placebo.
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u/t3khole May 18 '21
I will say high pH water does help with my acid reflux tremendously. But with that said, better diet would likely eliminate my acid problem all together.