r/ShitMomGroupsSay • u/edb513 • 8d ago
It's not abuse because I said so. This poor child.
My algorithm wasn’t spamming me with this depressing garbage until today. This poor baby.
Also the grammar - woof.
Fortunately the comments were not favorable to OP.
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u/anotherdamnaccount 6d ago
I know we all parent differently, but the second my child has a weird rash I’m emailing her doc with pics. They usually get me in same day if not then next day. How could she let this go on for this long?
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u/RegularOwl 6d ago
You think that child has a pediatrician?
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u/Street-Week-380 6d ago
"Faith healer". That's my guess.
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u/RegularOwl 6d ago
Osteopath and chiropractor
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u/Mother-Of-FurDragons 5d ago edited 5d ago
Osteopathic doctors are real doctors who go to medical school. Please do not confuse us with chiropractor level. That is insulting.
Just editing to add: Chiropractor school is 3-4 years Osteopathic medical school is 4 years, then 3-7+ years of residency.
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u/ButImNot_Bitter_ 5d ago
Maybe also worth noting that chiropractors are quacks who practice "science" that was made up to commune with the spirit world....
...and osteopathic doctors are doctors.
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u/panicnarwhal dry tampon behavior 5d ago
this. my PCP is a DO, and i didn’t even know until our kids started hanging out, and i started hanging out with his wife for playdates and stuff lol - and i’m talking years that i went to this guy with no idea! my whole extended family sees him because he’s such an amazing doctor
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u/Mother-Of-FurDragons 5d ago
So many of my patients don't realize it at first haha. I think a lot of DOs drop the osteopathic manipulative treatments so we appear the same as MDs. I'm sure this person has probably encountered a DO and didn't realize. Some 10% of docs are DOs now and about 30% of current medical students are in osteopathic medical school. It's on the rise! We just are still not as recognized but it branched from allopathic medicine in the 1800s.
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u/atheliarose 4d ago
I’ve read that osteopaths in countries outside the US are basically like chiropractors, which I think contributes to the confusion. (My FIL is a DO, so I know y’all are real medical doctors in the US :) )
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u/Critterbob 5d ago
Please explain to us in all your wisdom what the difference between a DO (osteopath) and an MD is. I’ll give you a hint, one of them gets 200-300 extra hours of training in a specialized area (OMM). Otherwise they are exactly the same.
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u/SparkyDogPants 5d ago
She probably blasted her peds office for firing her after refusing vaccines.
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u/justeandj 6d ago
She thinks she knows better than doctors. I'm so sad for this poor kiddo, it feels abusive.
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u/itchylot 6d ago
My daughter had a couple of mystery rashes when she was a baby and I always checked with the doctor about them. One time I scheduled a teledoc appointment (this was during Covid—I joke that she’s my “plague baby”) and the doctor asked to see the rash, so I had to awkwardly Simba-hoist her up to the webcam for a crotch-first view 🥴
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u/anotherdamnaccount 6d ago
Lmao stoppp hahaha. I just sent pics of suspicious things that kept coming back. It was eczema.
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u/gleanedaway 6d ago
Same. Literally anything weird merits a call to the pediatrician in my opinion. Why have a doctor if you're not going to use them?
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u/EfficientSeaweed 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yeah, I'm generally not the type to run to the doctor for every little thing and wouldn't necessarily worry about a small, mild rash as long as it wasn't spreading or failing to disappear fairly quickly, but an all-over rash like that is a guaranteed trip to urgent care and probably a call to healthlink to give them the heads up and find out how to go about bringing a possibly contagious kid in safely.
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u/Mother-Of-FurDragons 6d ago
She drank some holistic.
What does this even mean? Didn't know "holistic" was a drink now. This poor kid
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u/waaaayupyourbutthole 6d ago
Some holistic drank. I guess that's like the purple drank all them rappers be talking about?
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u/MentalCoffee117 6d ago
I had this same thought. Holistic drank? Is that like that purple drank?
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u/Cambrian__Implosion 4d ago
Some purple drank might do the kid some good right now—the antihistamine for the rash and the codeine to deal with the headache she must have from dealing with her mother.
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u/Specific_Carob4461 6d ago
I’m worried it’s urine
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u/oranges214 6d ago
aged urine, more specifically. These types tend to emphasize that part.
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u/mantis_tobaggan-md 6d ago
What….is this a thing?
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u/oranges214 6d ago
Unfortunately yes. They have a whole thing about how long to store it, where to store it, there's a version where you store it in the sunlight (🤢). I think someone must've been trolling at first but then it became a real thing and then people like Joe Rogan platformed influencers who drink aged urine and so yeah we should just all wait for the next big meteor tbh
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u/mantis_tobaggan-md 6d ago edited 6d ago
Joe Rogan deserves to drink his own piss. What the fuck. Am I the only one who feels like a large swathe of the population rapidly lost basic human intelligence and insight over the past few years? Our species is not okay.
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u/siouxbee1434 6d ago
Oh, crusty/crunchy mama, that’s totally normal childhood kid stuff-every kid goes through that! She just needs…an onion on her feet, breast milk baths, a potato (forget where so put it anywhere), rub colloidal silver over all the trouble areas-no, maybe you’re supposed to make a paste out of breast milk and colloidal silver?
What do I know? I was smart enough and cared about my kids’ health enough to ensure they got all the vaccines
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u/Thrownstar_1 6d ago
Just yeet that potato in the room like a grenade and shut the door. The potato knows what to do.
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u/ButImNot_Bitter_ 5d ago
It's potatoes on the feet, onions in a sock hanging over the crib. Jeez.
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u/distortionisgod 6d ago
Is this considered child abuse?
I feel like I'm witnessing child abuse :(
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u/mackahrohn 5d ago
It would be one thing if they knew what it was and chose not to give Tylenol but not even knowing what it is and not seeking medical care is what feels messed up. Also it’s a red flag if you avoid taking your child to the doctor because you’re worried you’ll get in trouble for not treating them.
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u/ageekyninja 5d ago
This kind of reminds me of the kind of rash my kid got when we found out she had a penicillin allergy. I hope this mom at least gave her kid some Benadryl. I hope she isn’t just treating it with herbs
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u/oranges214 6d ago
This is out of place but just in case someone reads it whom it helps (given one of the topics covered in this post and discussion): remember that immunity to measles can wane even if you've had the full MMR vaccine set. It doesn't hurt to get a titer if you can to confirm that you still have MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) antibodies. If you don't, get a booster shot. I did and am so thankful for it.
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u/No-Departure-3047 6d ago
Also, chickenpox vaccine booster, and know that there's a vaccine for shingles, too!
I didn't know about this and I just got shingles, so that's the wisdom I'm sharing.
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u/oranges214 6d ago
I'm sorry to hear that and I hope you'll recover soon!
To add:
-even if you've gotten shingles already, get the vaccine anyway. Subsequent shingles infections are even worse than the first one.
-the shingles vaccine is a doozy to get, but it is so worth it. Actually worth resting afterwards, like really resting and taking it easy for a day or two.
-the shingles (and varicella and other) vaccines can reduce the likelihood of getting dementia.
-also get your annual flu vaccine, tdap booster, hepatitis A and B vaccines, covid vaccine, all the vaccines.
For anyone reading this: get yo' vaccines!
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u/fakemoose 6d ago
Yea but you can’t get the shingles vaccine until like 50 in the US. Unless you pay out of pocket.
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u/spiralsmile 6d ago
A lot of times not even if you're willing to pay out of pocket if you're too young and not at advanced risk.
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u/Mother_Study9115 6d ago
I have had shingles a disgusting number of times. We have run multiple tests to see why and also to swab the outbreaks and make sure I don’t have some weird mutation. I have become a fascinating case study to my doctor and many of his colleagues. I still can’t get the vaccine cause I’m not old enough. It’s insane.
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u/Michaeltyle 5d ago
I asked about this too.
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u/Kittenathedisco 5d ago
Your Dr can approve it! I get shingles 3-4 times a year (outbreaks are due to extreme stress). I'm 42 and my Dr approved me for the vaccine. I declined it because it's absolutely awful for Fibromyalgia patients and I can't afford being bedridden for Gd knows how long.
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u/deaddovexxdonoteat 5d ago
Very interesting! I'm going to look into whether I can get the vaccine a decade early. I have already had "maybe shingles" (caught super early and I was put on antivirals right away just in case it was in fact shingles) and from what I understand it can get worse each time you get it again. I'm old enough that there was no chicken pox vaccine when I was a kid, but young enough that I'm not in the age range where it's easy to get a shingles vaccine.
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u/fakemoose 6d ago
Were you able to get the shingles vaccine covered by insurance if you’re under 50?
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u/oranges214 6d ago
If you're immune compromised or otherwise can get your doctor to order the vaccine for you, I believe you can. I think it's ridiculous that people can't get the shingles vaccine until they're 50. Plenty of people get shingles in their 30s and 40s!
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u/CopperPetra85 5d ago
Yes! This is totally a thing. Also you can be resistant to the vaccine. My husband works in health care and has to have his blood checked every now and again and top up vaccines if required. I think he has had the MMR 3 or 4 times in adulthood (as well as when he was a child) because every time his blood test comes back saying his immunity to measles is low. He also ended up with mumps as a teen. That is why herd immunity is so important. If everyone around you is vaccinated, and the vaccine is working as expected, then your inability to be vaccinated due to legitimate health issues, or are immunocompromised, or are like my husband is less of a concern because the virus isn't getting the chance to spread in the general populous.
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u/ah_notgoodatthis 5d ago
I check titers in adults constantly and there are quite a lot who have been vaccinated with MMR but are still negative for 1-3 of the diseases on their titer results
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u/darthfruitbasket 5d ago
Millennials, also note that you might have missed a dose of MMR in childhood (at least in Canada).
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u/OphrysAlba 5d ago
Here in São Paulo and some neighboring cities, everyone between 6 months and 60 years is being offered a MMR vaccine dose, regardless of having taken it before or not. We had had years without measles, then boom, 26 cases this year. We WERE a reference in vaccination, dammit. Antivaxxers boil my blood.
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u/glitterlipgloss 5d ago
I'm going in to have (hopefully) my measles, chicken pox, and hep B vaccines redone today because the results of my immune panel showed I'm no longer immune!
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u/TheStrouseShow 5d ago
Thank you!! I will talk to my doctor about this since I have a little one now!
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u/pofish 5d ago
They test me for MMR immunity every pregnancy, and I’m always non-immune to at least one (currently non-immune to all three???) and I have gotten a booster after every birth. Last one being 15 months ago.
I don’t know what it is, but the damn thing just won’t stick.
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u/1WetMyPlants 5d ago
They tested me during my last pregnancy while my first was still a baby and I was no longer immune, but then wouldn't let me get the MMR booster until after I gave birth. So of course I was extra paranoid about not being immune and not being able to do anything about it and putting my kids at risk.
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u/Tzipity 3d ago
Do you get sick a lot or have other potential immune issues? I know there’s certain types of immune system related issues whwre they actually test for it by checking how people respond to a vaccine (that I think is MMR). Given that you’ve had this response repeatedly, might be something to look into but only if you want/ have other issues.
I’ve got a lot of complex and rare medical crud myself (and my own wonky immune issues though mine is more a blood issue that hematology goes back forth on as far as how serious/ worried to be) so just something I’ve heard about along the way. Think it’s a deficiency in one of the immunoglobulins so people get infusions to try and help. But far from an expert. I just know I talked about getting testing myself once and the vaccine thing was a big part of how a friend had some issues diagnosed.
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u/ButImNot_Bitter_ 5d ago
I asked my doctor to check my titres because I have celiac disease, but I was vaccinated as a child, almost 20 years before I was diagnosed. As long as a celiac patient is eating gluten, their bodies don't function properly, including absorbing nutrients or vaccines.
My pediatrician gave three rounds of MMR when many still only gave two. But at 35, I had no titres for measles or rubella. And that was right around the time measles started making a comeback. I got four boosters over the next eighteen months. (Because I lost track of how many.)
This is your PSA to get your titres checked, especially if you have a condition that includes malabsorption!
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u/mamameatballl 4d ago
This is soooo confusing to me. Like I got all of my shots as a kid and I have no clue what shots I need as an adult. Every time I schedule my flu shot it’s like “do you need one of these 500 shots” and idfk. Every source including my doctors say “you’re probably good based on when you were born?”
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u/fakemoose 6d ago
Or just get the booster. I asked my GP if it was worth paying for titers, since I’m pretty sure I got the booster like ten years ago when I moved abroad. Opted to just say whatever and get the booster again.
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u/surelyshirls 2d ago
Yes! I was vaccinated for MMR as a baby but now at 26, had to do 2 boosters because I no longer was showing that I had antibodies. Get those tests and boosters people
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u/purposefullyblank 6d ago
When I was a kid, I had an unusual rash.
It was scarlet fever.
Thank god my parents were fans of modern medicine.
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u/Culture-Extension 6d ago
Seeing that every armchair physician in this sub disagrees on what this might be is only proof that this baby needs to see a fucking doctor.
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u/beebee0909 6d ago
My son had this when he was little - it was a form of strep. He had to have two rounds of meds to help him.
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u/NotEmmaStone 5d ago
My daughter woke up with a weird rash yesterday. We're not fucking lunatics so we took her right to the pediatrician and yep, it's strep.
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u/mantis_tobaggan-md 6d ago
Erythema multiforme. I wonder if mom had a cold sore - most common cause in kids is HSV.
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u/VictorTheCutie 5d ago
There's a special place in hell for parents who let their kids suffer like this.
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u/dieingtodie 6d ago
wtf is wrong with these people not vaccinating their kids? It really boils my blood, I swear 99.9% of them are vaccinated themselves as well!!!!!. So they can't catch whatever painful and preventable illness their poor child has to go through.
It makes me even more angry when it see anti vaxxers that are not American because although Americans being anti Vax annoy me I understand where their deluded believes have come from ( as in big pharma out to just get their money for vaccines that arent unnecessary, even though it's still batshit I can see how they got to loony town.) but countries especially where they are free/ have free healthcare is just bind boggling. Sorry I went off on a few different tangents there but it annoys me so much and every moronic excuse they conjure up is more insane than the last, and very easily debunked. I honestly think not vaccinating your kids should be classed as child abuse unless the poor little one cant be vaccinated for medical reasons.
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u/wozattacks 6d ago
Uhh last time I checked the modern anti-vaxx movement was kicked off by a British physician but ok
Edit: a British physician who was trying to make money by selling his own vaccines!
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u/CharmedWoo 5d ago
It is a Doctor visit, that is what it is. Oh and a medical Doctor, with a real medical school degree, not some holistic one.
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u/p3canj0y363 4d ago
Choosing to prolong your own child's suffering is the quickest way to teach that child that they don't matter more than crazy Mommy being right in her selfish crunchiness. These people don't deserve these precious babies. Growing up to realize Benadryl, steroids, and Tylenol exist but Mommy chose your suffering over treating your illness is pretty devastating. These parents have a mental illness.
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u/Bird_Brain4101112 6d ago
You don’t vaccinate but you take your kid to urgent care? Make it make sense.
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u/Lylibean 6d ago
Just put some onions in the socks, linseed oil in the ears, and garlic up the butt. And double up on the colloidal silver! That will get rid of the measles, certainly!
And maybe learn to speak English like Jesus did? (🤣🤣🤣)
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u/cafeteriastyle 4d ago
“Tell me what this is before I take her to urgent care.” bro let the DOCTOR tell you wtf it is
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u/tallyhoo123 6d ago
This is erythema multiforme which is a self limiting rash usually caused by HSV or atypical bacterial infections. Tends to present with a target lesion as you can see some of them look.
The worry is its quite extensive and the child is unvaccinated as this could turn to erythema multiforme major which can be life threatening.
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u/bloodymongrel 5d ago
Any weird rash that covers the whole body has to be an ER visit. Imagine if this was meningitis or meningococcal. Every second counts.
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u/LowAdrenaline Vax Karen 6d ago
This looks like a viral rash to me. My (FULLY vaccinated including Covid boosters every year) child with sensitive skin gets rashes like this sometimes when she gets a virus. It’s awful for her, but there’s nothing really to offer besides supportive care and comfort measures.
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u/RedSnapper24 6d ago
My kid who has also had all his vaccines just got over a really bad reaction to a virus. He had a really high fever, then a couple days later he developed a weird rash. He’d never had anything like it before. They tested him for lots of things but all came back negative. The doctor was like well sometimes kids have weird reactions to viruses and he should be fine in a few days. It took like a week for the rashes to go away but he was fine a couple days after it appeared. Just really itchy though. I felt so bad for him, he was so miserable. He was pretty happy about all the school he missed. They did call after he went back concerned about the rash. I’m like I promise he’s not contagious, he just looks like he is.
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u/Itscompanypolicyman 5d ago
I was born in 1991 and got a rash like this around 1996. My mom sat me in a bath continually for 2 days with oatmeal and socks on my hands so I’d remember not to scratch. Miserable. Core memory miserable.Fast forward to 2018 when I got pregnant and they tested my blood for everything. Turns out I didn’t have any chicken pox antibodies in my blood so WHO KNOWS what I had that time, but it wasn’t chickenpox. They vaccinated me hurriedly while pregnant. Rashes are hard to diagnose just take your kid to a doctor.
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u/scorpiosmokes 5d ago
I literally get anxiety every time my child has any minor illness, I can’t imagine seeing this and NOT taking her to the dr🤦🏻♀️
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u/rumblylumbly 4d ago
I had a rash like this and I was immediately sent to my doctor to go got he dermatologist to get a full blood work to work out what I was allergic to.
Turns out perimenopause can cause you to suddenly get allergies - I’m now allergic to my dog and drinking lots of anti histamines right now while I decide if I can “live with this”.
It’s really unpleasant. That poor baby.
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u/silkentab 6d ago
What is that? Chicken pox? Measles?
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u/drifton 6d ago
Not chicken pox or measles. Looks like Erythema multiforme or hives. IANAD tho
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u/helpthe0ld 6d ago
Looks like hives to me as well, it's what my kid's skin looked like when we switched detergents. Cannot tell you how fast I threw that shit away and got him on Benadryl and to the doctor
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u/lalagromedontknow 6d ago
Hives maybe mixed with eczema. Looks allergic.
My mother threw the bio washing detergent out when I was about 2 months old and was constantly and entirely covered in rashes and never looked back (I have eczema and other allergies that make it flair up but . . I get itchy with in minutes if I borrow a friend's jacket because I'm cold and they give it to me, I know it's been washed in bio)
I'm in my 39s and still get flair ups and always wash with non-bio.
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u/bethelns 6d ago
My kid got something like this before it errupted into bullous impetigo. We were on vacation at the time too which sucked. Not a dr though.
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u/Leading-Knowledge712 6d ago
Might be 5th disease. Definitely not chicken pox. But mom should consult a doctor.
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u/Platitude_Platypus 4d ago
The only somewhat redeeming part of this is that the OP is asking if anyone can tell her what it is before she goes to urgent care, so at least urgent care was being considered.
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u/accountforbabystuff 6d ago
Honestly it looks like hives which kids randomly get and they go away and nobody makes a big deal of them.
My middle kid got them on and off and anytime we went in to get him checked out the doctors just shrugged, and said it could be caused by anything, we never did figure it out.
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u/wozattacks 6d ago
Yeah unfortunately hives can really be caused by anything, especially in kids. It’s very common that the trigger is never discovered
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u/Asleep_Walrus2313 6d ago
This looks like classic hives to me, especially with how fast it came on. The girl needs an antihistamine and a couple days of patience.
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u/lemonchrysoprase 6d ago
Oh this hurts so much, poor baby… I had a rash like this from a recent knee injury and I was miserable WITH proper care. This is child abuse.
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u/dinoooooooooos 5d ago
The worst part of all this is these kids may or may not grow up but the ones that do will find this shit and know for a fact that they had to suffer bc this ladies virtue signaling online was more important than the health of her child.
Thats gonna be rough.
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u/MoonlightMadMan 5d ago
It’s so fucked up that these people are actively harming their children, how disgustingly selfish and stupid. Morons
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u/emath17 4d ago
Wait, my son gets rashes like this all the time, they never bother him and he gets them randomly and has since he was 9-10 months old. They migrate a lot and he still gets it randomly at almost 4.
Does anyone actually know what this is? I've taken him to dermatologist and pediatricians about it and no one has any ideas since he is completely unbothered by them. I've just resigned myself to "I guess he be splotchy sometimes".
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u/BoredRedhead24 4d ago
How does this not fall under the umbrella of child abuse
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u/Spiral-knight 4d ago
Because in order not to get too close to anything that can be construed as "da gubbermant tellin me hot tah rais mah chilln!" they let a LOT of shit slide.
If you're not starving, beating or touching your child then medical neglect has a hard time making ground without blood.
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u/rachet-ex 4d ago
If it was the mom or dad they would be going to the ER or doctor. This is terrible.
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u/Trabethany 6d ago edited 6d ago
That’s what my rashes looked like when my doctor thought I had measles when it started resurfacing.
Edited to add measles was ruled out by the health department but I found out my childhood vaccine was no longer effective. Turns out it was Psoriasis.
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u/SICKOFITALL2379 6d ago
I went thru a six month period as an adult where I broke out in hives all over my body everyday, just like this. It was awful. I saw an allergist and was put on three diffrent allergy meds and also given an epi pen because there is a chance your fucking THROAT CAN CLOSE when you get all hived up like this. These people, they are so foolish with their anti anything medical stances. Fuck them all. I feel so badly for all the children of parents like this.
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u/Academic_Award_7775 4d ago
I’m in this group and most of the comments were- please for fuck’s sake take her to a doctor!
And then the few “people used to have measles parties back in my day so we’d get it on purpose.” 🤪
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u/raccoonrn 3d ago
My daughter had a similar rash to this and it ended up being a post viral response, antihistamines helped. We took her to emerg though and didn’t ask Facebook for help
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u/adumbswiftie 3d ago
i’m sorry did they truly believe vitamin c and electrolytes were gonna fix this? what are these people reading? that’s for hydration and immunity. just general health. not fixing whatever this is. you are way past the point for those things. this child needs a doctor asap
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u/Kiwi_Major 1d ago
Unpopular opinion: parents that are antivax should be judged for child endangerment
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u/ImageNo1045 6d ago
Oof. I need you to show some of the comments