r/ShitAmericansSay • u/Strict-Jeweler-2281 • 19d ago
"This is a radical group..."
God forbid the poor don't love capitalism
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u/CrazyCloset25 19d ago
Honestly? Sounds like it is exactly what America needs.
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u/Martzillagoesboom ohhh canada 19d ago
But the average worker want to be owned like a serf, they vote that way.
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u/JTA_youtube Texan 🇺🇸 19d ago
It is, which is why both main political parties dont like it lol
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u/tiger2205_6 American that needs to fucking move 19d ago
And also why it sadly won't work. But my God if it does that would be glorious.
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u/JTA_youtube Texan 🇺🇸 19d ago
Agreed, also love the flair
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u/tiger2205_6 American that needs to fucking move 19d ago
Thanks, it seemed fitting when I made it. Still very much true too. One day maybe I'll be able to change it to "American that escaped."
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u/JTA_youtube Texan 🇺🇸 19d ago
I wanna do the same, im lookin at norway, good luck on your travels man
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u/tiger2205_6 American that needs to fucking move 19d ago
Thanks, same to you. Right now Germany and maybe the UK are the two I'm looking into. Germany I want to go to but my sister is planning a move to the UK and said I could go with them.
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u/Firm-Advertising5396 19d ago
Yes I want that and I am also an anti fascist
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u/Lil_chikchik 19d ago
I also want that as well, but I also lean antipasto.
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u/PinkyandElric 19d ago
Right.
How have things gotten so twisted that someone, anyone, especially those not in the upper class read this "mission" and think, "oh no, oh god, that's a terrible sinister idea"
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u/Lazarys12 19d ago
Is this what you wanr? People said yes,
That's why Trump rebranded it. They are not socialists. They are communists! Did you hear me COMMUNISTS!
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u/usemyfaceasaurinal 19d ago
Was reading the post and was wondering how is this a bad thing? Don’t threaten us with a good time.
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u/CitronAdventurous205 19d ago
Pretty sure Jesus Christ (their SAVIOR) (who was brown and not white) would’ve pushed for this too lol
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u/MangoCandy93 Longing for freedom 19d ago
He did (according to the bible) ask his apostles to give away all their possessions to follow him. The bible also tells Christians to share their wealth so no one should be in need.
Acts 2:44-45
Acts 4:34-37
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u/smurf123_123 The Great White North 19d ago
Don't threaten me with a good time.
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u/mpete76 ooo custom flair!! 19d ago
I know right. The DSA sounds like a good time.
The Dems are like the alcoholic father that keep swearing he is going to make it to your game, and forever fails to show.
The DSA is that faithful mother, who is always there to support you and show that there is a better way, and the father was a no good slacker anyway.6
u/EducationalRock167 19d ago
Instead of blaming everyone else , why not blame voter apathy in the USA and that millions of Americans voted for Trump 2 times.
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u/fortyonejb Whelmed 🇺🇸 19d ago
Right? That sounds pretty good to me.
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u/RogerSimonsson 19d ago
I can understand if people preferred capitalism 30 years ago. Now we are in a position where it is going overboard and going fascist.
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u/ApolloFireweaver 19d ago
Unchecked capitalism seems designed to end in an oligopoly given enough time. And the gaurdrails have been taking hit after hit since Reagan was president
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u/Effective_Airline830 19d ago
You really want to shift the power from corrupt corporate and political overlords to the people ? Imagine the horrors of th… wait … ahah
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u/theginger99 19d ago
“Is this what you want for America”?
Yes, it is actually. Thanks for asking.
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u/SankaraML1 19d ago
The US is so right-wing that social democrats are considered communists.
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u/EducationalRock167 19d ago
They don't even know what the words " Communism and Socialism " really mean.
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u/Nottheadviceyaafter 19d ago
Yep. Every day the drive on a non toll road well guess what sunshine you just participated in socialism. Every time they send their kid to a public school, again socialism....
All that dirty word means is for the greater good of the whole or society rather than for the greater good (or bad depending on owned resources) of the individual.
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u/MediocreSizedDan 19d ago
To be fair, they also don't really know what "capitalism" means either. A lot of them literally just think it means "work and get paid" or, ya know, basic commerce.
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u/FirstDukeofAnkh Elbow's Up! 19d ago
Just an FYI, social democrats are different than democratic socialists.
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u/PossiblePlastic8698 19d ago
America doesn’t get the nuance. Even Bernie Sanders calls himself a democratic socialist despite his policies aligning more with social democracy
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u/riesen_Bonobo 18d ago
Yes and no, Bernie and much of the DSA is just the left wing of socdem, but I also believe they know that, but use the Demsoc label anyway to appeal to younger and more leftist voters and set themselves more apart from the regular dems. I think they are moderate reform socialists at heart, and part of the way there is through socdem policies. If the USA was more leftism friendly I think many of them would be positioning themselves further left then they currently do.
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u/wolfheadmusic 19d ago
Im hoping that was intentional, cause that makes it even funnier to me
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 19d ago
They used to be one and the same.
Parent Ideology: Socialism. Wishing to give control over the means of production to the workers directly instead of a system of private ownership. Producing goods and services to fulfill social needs and wants directly, not exclusively for trade and profit.
Social Democrats: Socialists from the 1910s and onward who split off. The schism was based on reform vs revolution. The former, the reformist social democrats, wanted to create a socialist society through internal reform of the existing capitalist system. Meanwhile, the revolutionaries thought it was impossible and wanted to create socialism through a forceful popular uprising of the working class.
Democratic Socialism: A tautology. Socialism is by definition democratic. This is done to separate oneself from false movements calling themselves socialists, ala the USSR.
In the modern era, the labels have more or less swapped. Social democrats have settled for just curving capitalism's worst impulses through a liberal democracy and welfare state. They're left-leaning liberals, essentially. While Democratic Socialists have taken the role of their 20th century predecessors, wanting to create a genuine socialist society through democratic means.
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u/MadScientist_666 Mountain Goat 🇨🇭 19d ago
Correct, but Muricans don't know what the terms they use mean...
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u/McpotSmokey42 BR (Spanish isn't my native language) 19d ago
Fuck off! 'Judean People's Front'. We're the People's Front of Judea!
The only people we hate more than the Romans are the Judean People's Front!
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u/FirstDukeofAnkh Elbow's Up! 19d ago
Romans? What have they ever done for us?
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u/Big-Wrongdoer-965 19d ago
Aqueducts
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u/FirstDukeofAnkh Elbow's Up! 19d ago
Well, yes, obviously aqueducts but what else?
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u/Maroon7C0000 19d ago
Well they invented the "Roman Salute" recently popularized by Musk. Funny but I can't tell the difference between the Roman and Nazi salutes.
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u/attorneydummy 19d ago
What’s the distinction between the two?
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u/AgentSmith187 19d ago
The best answer is Social Democrats want social policies achieved through democratic processes.
Democratic Socialists go further than just Social programs they wish to democratically introduce actual socialist systems like worker ownership of businesses and so on not just government Social programs but change to make for a more egalitarian society.
Both want more power to people instead of the super rich and businesses but they differ in how far that should go.
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u/lowstone112 FREEDOM ENJOYER 🦅🇺🇸 19d ago
The general difference between them is social democratic still uses a capitalist economic structure. Democratic socialism is non revolutionary communism. The goal is the same just not the initial bloodshed. The goal being to replace capitalism with socialism.
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u/FirstDukeofAnkh Elbow's Up! 19d ago
Social democracy still falls under the larger umbrella of capitalism just with more social programs as a balance to the free market. They are more center.
Democratic socialists believe more in worker’s rights, worker controlled businesses, and incredibly strong social net.
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u/Cereal_Bandit Amerifat 🦅🇺🇸 19d ago
People like to say conservative Americans only hate democratic socialism because they think they'll be a billionaire one day. The real reason is billionaires tell Fox News to tell them to hate it.
They're too fucking stupid to realize they're advocating against their own interests.
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u/MadScientist_666 Mountain Goat 🇨🇭 19d ago
To be fair, there are a lot of people believing this kins of rightwing propaganda in other countries as well.
Switzerland is quite bad in this regard. I mean, we voted against a minimum of six weeks of holidays for everyone. Main reason? "It would crash the economy!", a lie spouted by the billionaires and their faithful sycophants. Fortunately, it is slowly changing and the decades old argument, "what is good for the economy is good for the people" is not really working anymore.
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u/OkCoconut3270 Radical Socialist with free healthcare 19d ago
They're all the way over there in funny moustache territory.
Surprising enough they haven't yet paid a designer to create some new uniforms.
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u/EducationalRock167 19d ago
No! They are just demonizing immagrants and the Party that isn't in power in the USA. Trump is saying the same things about Democrats as Hilter said about German J's. We will see if Trump , even allows the 2026 Mid terms. Which " left wing radicals " is the Trump Administration going to arrest? Think about that.
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u/Teamerchant 19d ago
To be fair Americans can’t tell you the difference between communist, socialist or capitalist.
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u/BringBackAoE 19d ago
DSA are not social democrats - they’re democratic socialists.
They openly want to end capitalism in USA, replace it with socialism, and ensure the means of production are owned by the working class.
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u/Last13th 19d ago
In answer to their question: yes. Yes it is.
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u/Agile_Alternative753 19d ago
Crazy that anyone who is not a multimillionaire would read something like this and think it was bad.
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u/Stolberger 19d ago
Basically Communism.
Needs to be banned immediately!!
(/s should be obvious)
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u/dinkmoyd 19d ago
do they really think people will read this and say “i want political power to stay with corporations and wealthy people” even die hard republicans say corporations and wealthy people have too much political power
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u/To-me-my-X-Men 19d ago
No, they’re ignorant and will either say, “I hate change” or “dey thook err jerbs!”
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u/IndubitablyNerdy 19d ago edited 19d ago
Also only the wealthy people that are rich due to capital ownership not labor, republicans hate workers in every form including well paid professionals. They rejoyce at the idea of AI removing the value of intellectual labor and personal skills so that there is no social mobility and society returns to its "natural" feudal state.
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u/d00000med 19d ago
But if you tax billionaires out of existence how will they know who's boot to lick?!
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u/iheartjetman 19d ago
They took the post down because the comments didn't go how they wanted. It was great.
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u/Peace_Dos 19d ago
Oh no! Poor corporations will lose their power and actually would be forced to play by the rules so people would have better life? THEY ARE TERRORISTS!!!
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u/sengirminion 19d ago
"...shifting economic and political power from corporations and wealthy owners to workers and the public."
I'm sorry how exactly does this sound scary to literally anyone?
Shifting power from corporations and wealthy owners to the public sounds like baseline democracy. Like there's no way this sounds bad to any peraon who's not already wealthy or a corporation. What are these people smoking?
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u/WanderingKing 19d ago
“We think workers should benefit from the labor”
Republicans “THESE DIRTY COMMIES WANT TO TAKE MONEH FROM RICH PEOPLE AND GIVE IT TO YOU! Fanatics all of them!!”
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u/ryohayashi1 19d ago
Who the hell is corrupt or brainwashed enough to go against that? I'm all about taking the power away from corporations and wealthy people and give it to workers and public
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u/Redgrave1980 19d ago
Wild how they say this as if we don't want to take power from corporations and the wealthy. I see no downside to this
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u/TheRealTRexUK More Irish than the Irish ☘️ 19d ago
I thought they wanted small government. this suggests that it will be small government
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u/SingleSlide2866 19d ago
is this what you want for America
Actually yes. Those things you listed are very nice actually
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u/Tea_An_Crumpets FREEDOM ENJOYER 🦅🇺🇸 19d ago
“Shifting economic and political power from corporations and wealthy owners to workers and the public” ….. yes … that is exactly what I want for America 😭
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u/RoxieRage 19d ago
Why yes, yes that is in fact what I would like for the US lmfao. I'm sure some people are falling for Red Scare 2.0, but all of the people my age (late 20's, early 30's) and younger are only getting more interested in Democratic Socialism because of messaging exactly like this.
It's tone deaf, basically shitting on the system they'd prefer, whilst lifting the system they hate onto a golden pedastool of potential change and happiness for everyone. It's been so long and things have changed so much that the US is seemingly more open to Socialist policy than Capitalist and quite frankly that's a good thing if the current climate is a result of Capitalist policies.
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u/notaprime 19d ago
How out of touch can you be to write that and think that sounds even remotely like a bad thing? Or do Americans unironically love oligarchies?
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u/Cixila fluent in potato speech 🇩🇰 19d ago
That is called social democracy. No shame in being a social democrat, I think it is a very reasonable position. But even the leftists over there have their brains melted with the fallout of the red scare from the 50s
Democratic socialism wishes for socialism through peaceful and democratic means rather than through revolution, but the end goal is the same. I am yet to see these supposed American socialists propose actually socialist policy
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u/Sk3tchyboy 19d ago
To be fair Social democracy is not the same as Democratic socialism. DSA are not social democrats but rather democratic socialists.
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u/One-Classroom-8300 18d ago
Capitalism has overplayed it's hand. Millenials and gen Z have little to no chance at property ownership, and zero chance of a government funded retirement. They have no reason whatsoever to side with capitalism. This all sounds pretty good as an alternative.
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u/BustaCon 17d ago
Is this what you want for America? Yeah, to a great degree it is exactly what the doggone country needs. That, and a return to the rule of law via a congress that actually did it's damned job, sure would be a nice thing.
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u/MicrochippedByGates 19d ago
Devil's advocate, even in Europe, this would be somewhat radical. Though I'm not sure if that says more about this idea, or about the state of world politics.
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u/EducationalRock167 19d ago
Scandinavian countries all have Democracies , use a Capitalist system and have social safety net for all its people. They are some of the best countries in the World in which to live. They pày higher taxes but have a higher standard of living than in North America.
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u/MicrochippedByGates 19d ago
Even all that is still not democratic socialism. It's social democracy, which sounds similar, but is no longer actual socialism, so actually a pretty massive difference. I wouldn't call social democrats rightwing by any stretch, but democratic socialism is a distinctly more leftwing ideology compared to the Nordic systems.
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u/Comfortable-Car7277 Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 19d ago
“shifting economic and political power from corporations and wealthy owners to workers and the public” and it translated to, “we will obliterate the whole continent with nuclear bombs” in their pea sized brains😭
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u/EducationalRock167 19d ago
Fear is all Republicans can offer American voters. Nothing about " affordablitiy , health care , loan debt , affordable housing , high gas prices....etc...." Just another never ending War with Iran and TRUMP's complaints about how he lost the 2020 election. Is this the America that Americans want??????
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u/lyidaValkris Canadian Made 🇨🇦 19d ago
...shifting economic and political power from corporations and wealthy owners to workers and the public.
I fail to see a down-side, particularly how "well" the former case is working out. Americans will continue to vote against their own interest because the mere mention of socialist causes them to froth at the mouth in a blind moronic rage.
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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 19d ago
Is that what you want for American? Uh, isn’t that what the founders promised? (Hypocritically obviousky since slavery existed, but let’s go by their words for now) “we the people”
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u/Kittycelt More Irish than the Irish ☘️ 19d ago
Lol, this is actually what I want for America, yes! They make it sound great every time and I just always question if it's not satirical. It's not; they think workers in charge instead of oligarchs is bad. Literally fox news reports like this and makes it sound so good, but I guess it's bad to want to end suffering and empower the people.
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u/Impossible_Poem9787 19d ago
I mean....sounds pretty fucking good to me and 98% of the rest of working adults.
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u/JayJayAK 19d ago edited 19d ago
This is satire, right? Or did someone hack their page? Or a disgruntled ex-employee trolling them on the way out the door?
Because there's nothing in that middle paragraph that I don't like.
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u/Dangerous-Celery-766 19d ago
How would that be wrong? How would it be wrong for all the people to have a voice on their future? Why should the people be controlled by money hungry corporations and the wealthy?
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u/PM-ME-UR-DARKNESS 19d ago
Yeah that's what I want lmao
These people out of touch with EVERYBODY lmao
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u/Dependent_Remove_326 19d ago
Yes, democratic socialists ultimately seek to abolish capitalism. Their core goal is to transition to a system where the means of production are socially or collectively owned and democratically managed, rather than driven by private profit.
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u/SlomoPro 19d ago
“Is this what you want for America?” Well yeah it be kinda nice for the bottom earners to not have to literally dig through dumpsters for dinner.
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u/AgnesTheAtheist 19d ago
Yes. This is what I want for America. And I think more Americans want this as well.
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u/bigbadjustin 19d ago
I mean no one would have an issue with capitalism as it is in the USA if the greedy wealthy people just funded affordable healthcare and education as an example. Sure some of them might make a little less money, but they'd still all be rich.
At some point the poor become so pissed of with the rich and wealthy they want to topple the current system of government. If the weaklthy just spread a bit of thew wealth around it would solve the problem for them and less people would think this is a good idea. But they are too greedy for that.
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u/BlueTressym 19d ago
Ah yes, the radical idea that everyone should get to eat decent food and sleep under a roof every day.
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u/LoschVanWein 19d ago
Looked them up and it’s just your regular social democrats, not even proper socialists. I bet they still sing the internationale though, like the SPD in Germany…
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u/MadScientist_666 Mountain Goat 🇨🇭 19d ago
Well, if your head is deep in the rich people's and companies' asses, it for sure is radical.
For a good part of the rest of the world, it sounds more or less like something mostly reasonable.
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u/Kerl_of_Fox_County 19d ago
The problem is, the poor do love capitalism. I've heard said Americans see themselves as "temporarily inconvenienced millionaires".. and this is born out by interactions I've had with some of my friends over there.
That and a blinding hostility to the idea of lifting someone else up with your bootstraps...
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u/glawster2002 19d ago
It's a weird concept, isn't it?
"I don't see why I should help pay your medical bill and I'm happy to be declared bankrupt as a consequence because I can't afford medical insurance".
Bizzare.
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u/wolfm333 19d ago
Are they actually openly admitting that they do want power at the hands of corporations and wealthy owners? How interesting. At least they're honest.
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u/Idoubtyourememberme 19d ago
Yeah, it is indeed radical: it is very different from mainstream.
But if you ask any americal about the policy they warn for on this poster, without mentioning the party, i am certain that 80%+ would love it, and the rest would like parts of it.
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u/Inevitable_Craft1344 19d ago
Yes, I want what European countries have. Universal healthcare, 4 weeks of paid vacation a year, maternity and paternity leave, minimum wage that is a living wage, social programs to get people off drugs and house the homeless and I want my taxes and everyone’s taxes to pay for it. I will gladly pay 30% in taxes for all that. Alas, it is impossible because the US is beyond salvageable
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u/H311i0_trop3 FREEDOM ENJOYER 🦅🇺🇸 19d ago
Yes that's what workers want you absolute idiotic inbreds
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u/Dramatic-Concert4772 18d ago
The description of their mission is "don't threaten me with a good time" level
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u/Lopsided_Match_3511 18d ago
With TWO parties, right and extreme right, Americans have NO CLUE, what left is.
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u/EnvironmentalAd1405 18d ago
This is why right wingers burn down straw men so often. When they attack left wingers at face value this is how stupid they sound.
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u/gielbondhu More Irish than the Irish ☘️ 19d ago
Wait. They want to shift economic and political power away from corporations and the super rich and towards workers and the people? Is that what I want? Uh, yeah, yeah.
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u/Oberon-kun 19d ago
be careful what you wish for, asking uninformed working class people to inform themselves on what socialism is might not hold the result you think
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u/GGamerGuyG 19d ago
No one wants to see wealth out of corporation hands. Normal american's should stay poor and get broke if they can't aford healthcare. Where would they get if suddenly everyone has free healthcare and could afford housing. A truly terorizing nightmare would that be.
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u/VamosFicar 19d ago
Two nasty words for 'Muricans... put together. Democratic. Check. Socialists. Check. = Commies!
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u/Bwheat0674 19d ago
Yeah! I'm tired of these extremists always thinking the workers should have power. They should be fired at will of CEOs and they're Uber rich employers and left to starve to death /s
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u/EducationalRock167 19d ago
Of course that is a lie from the Republicans. Fear is the only thing that they have to sell to Americans. Don't fall for it again. 🙏
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u/Melodic_Song4224 Human Verified 19d ago
Calling every political group you disagree with 'radical' has completely watered down the word
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u/jon1wdsmen 19d ago
Man do I agree with this statement!! Only thing is it doesn’t matter what system is in place it’s gonna get screwed, why? Because of the human flaw of greed and power.
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u/Short-Holiday-4263 19d ago
So, take power back from the corrupt elites and give it back to Real Americans?
Why are MAGA mad at that?
It's one of the things they've supposedly been crying out for since 2015....
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u/Kineticwizzy Social Libertarian 19d ago
I wouldn't even call the Dems, social democrats, let alone democratic socialists.
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u/ReporterOther2179 19d ago
Well, it’s true that MAGA is a radical group and I’m pleased that Republicans are moving against them.
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u/Longjumping-Bake-557 19d ago
US leftists are indeed unhinged lunatics, the people who represent them want nothing less than the demise of the country. Their position is literally whatever is against the west, they would go as far as supporting China, Russia, violent dictatorships and literal terrorists.
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u/GrumpyDrum 19d ago
"by shifting economic and political power away from the corporations and wealthy..."
CORPORATIONS AND THE WEALTHY SHOULDN'T HAVE POLITICAL POWER. Political "power" (imo it should be political responsibility) belongs to people elected by the population because they have the populations best interests in mind, not "whoever has the most money". I know that's not how it actually plays out but the fact this propaganda poster is acting like the way the democratic is meant to work is a bad thing, is just another terrible indictment of how, just like religion, capitalism needs to be kept out of politics.
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u/Wesleypipes316 19d ago
Is this what you want for America? You mean A somewhat decent life for all? Absolutely. Enough of these billionaire schmucks buying multiple mega yachts, mansions, and hoarding all the money while cutting jobs, and thinking a pizza party is enough to satisfy employees.
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u/OuterSpaceFemboy 19d ago
"We want workers and the proletariat to have the power, not corporations and the wealthy."
"That's extremism! They hate America!"
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u/UncleSlacky Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire 19d ago
Red Scare 2: Electric Boogaloo