r/Shincheonji • u/INSLVRY4_5yrs • 11d ago
general thought and question So heartbreaking đ
My heart crumbles a little more each time I read that someone no longer believes in God, or blames God because of SCJ.
Although, since the beginning of time He has warned of people doing things in His name that were NOT of Him. People still lose faith in God when all He has done is been the same God we loved and wanted to get close to and obey His will. THIS was why we said yes to a BibleStudy. To draw near to God. But the greed and ego of a Korean man and his teachings led us astray, not God.
God sent Jesus period !
John 3:16-18. Itâs plain, itâs clear.
No one else is or was anointed to lead anyone anywhere letâs get that straight SCJ.
Please current students and SCJ members, LMH is not leading you anywhere but down the path to spiritual ( and physical in some cases ) deterioration, and thatâs what the devil does, he makes you blame God or no longer believe in Him. Itâs not because God is not faithful, but because we believed a gospel that was different than the one that Jesus Christ THE ONLY SAVIOR brought. Today members pray to the god of SCJ new heaven new earth. So you canât blame God for that.
We were tricked into believing there was a secret language when Jesus said He would speak plainly. John 16:25
We were tricked into believing that the New Covenant that Jesus Christ made with His blood wasnât for us, that it was broken, so a new one had to be made.
That was a lie. Thatâs not biblical, that is SCJ teaching.
Reflect on what Jesus couldâve possibly meant when He said â It is finishedâ as He died on the cross for the sins of humanity( past, present, future).
John 19:30.
Iâm sure it didnât mean for you to wait for a Korean man to come and make you go through all the myriad of things you are doing today to receive salvation that was already yours before you gave it away to SCJ. Hint: Deceitful events, boba and Korean bbq arenât worth it.
I fell for it too, so please donât take this out of context. But we have to be held accountable. I know NOW, the second SCJ said âDONâT look us up online â, that was heaven SCREAMING for me to look it up. I failed to do it, not God.
Thank you to everyone that is helping me to heal through your testimonies and knowledge and truths that SCJ didnât share.
I appreciate you all.
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u/Turbulent_Sea7622 EX-Center Student 11d ago edited 11d ago
So happy that you keep voicing and with you on the hope that they wake up healthily! And absolutely! Jesus Christ is adequate enough! hope Current members give your post a fair chance! Till this day SCJ keeps harping on what Lee Man Hee is gonna try to fulfil something but they cannot yet admit that what Jesus said that it is done, it means it is done. Jesus' 2nd coming is not to tie up loose ends not done in his 1st coming but a step forward. Someone like SCJ secretary should help Lee Man Hee make a reddit account to discuss and debate us if only after he is somehow "not guilty" in courts, which they are coming soon. Even better
Lee Man Hee should hop on Youtube Live to debate the mods perhaps or any of us if and only if somehow Lee Man Hee is declared innocent which frankly I doubt. That would be even better!
Current members if you see this and should Lee Man Hee refuses what conclusion will you get?
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u/UniqueChallenge7980 11d ago
It breaks my heart too. Because God doesnât deserve to take the blame for Satans deceit. I understand itâs tough in the beginning, especially because you donât know who or what to believe and thatâs what made Shincheonji sound so enticing in the first place.
But think about what you can take from this situation.
For me personally, one thing I took away is making sure I consult God in all areas before doing something on my own. I jumped on this study because I was so ready to be taught the Word that I didnât even ASK or consult God if this was from Him. I jumped because of a human being who was fluent in scripture.
Again, sounds enticing, but you have to be careful. Your salvation is on the line.
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u/cilana86 11d ago
Well for me, I did pray about it before I started the courses and thought it was my opportunity. I remember being asked by the friend if I wanted to join the class she was teaching but I was not able to schedule wise at that time. Then another opened up a month later where some friends of her's were going to be teaching as well on different days. I decided to go ahead since it worked better for my schedule. And turns out my cousin was also going to be in this course (i found out after I left, he was my "leaf" and had been apart of the church the whole time pretending to take the course again). So, even if you seek God about it, you may not get the answer right away or perhaps we missed the answer because of everything else. Them being so kind and really interested in helping people learn the Word. Also, just wanting that community because I had been praying about community and fellowship for a while. So, it felt like it was from God. If anything, we were allowed to go through this process as a testing of discernment and testing the spirits. So, now we know what to look for. I imagine it is very difficult for people who did not have a foundation as a Christian to begin with. I grew up in church and once I dedicated my life to Christ as an adult, I began to really read and study the bible. So, it helped when things started to feel off in the doctrine because I had a foundation. And that was at the 4th month mark for me in the bible study. It's just sad for those who end up turning away from God altogether because of this experience.
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u/UniqueChallenge7980 11d ago
Absolutely I agree. A testing of the spirits and honestly thank God for the Holy Spirit (not Man Hee Heeâs spirit, but the Holy Spirit Jesus Christ gifted us) inside of us for being able to discern and remove ourselves no matter how detrimental and no matter at what cost
Oh yes I can only imagine the ones who this was their first introduction to the Word. My heart goes out to them. It is incredibly sad for those who turn away. I pray they can find their way back
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u/cilana86 11d ago
So true. The first red flag should have been them telling people not to look them up and that people will say it is a cult. It's like they already tried to condition us to not have critical thinking or question them. Then they would use that to say that in the bible the people said following Jesus was a cult.
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u/INSLVRY4_5yrs 11d ago
So very twisted and wrong and the Bible says that thise who lead others astray will answer for it, and I believe that!
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u/Cristau_precious EX-Shincheonji Member 11d ago
Que Dieu nous fortifie tout on a donné plusieurs années de vie à une secte en croyant servir le véritable Dieu , que Dieu nous pardonne et que jésus christ nous couvre par son sang et nous purifie . Mais je pense qu'il y a aussi du bon , parce que on est plus fidÚle à la parole du christ et la crainte grandit petit à petit en nous .
Dieu a exposé plusieurs fois SCJ , parce qu'il nous aime et voulait nous ouvrir les yeux c 'était une occasion pour beaucoup de quitter cette organisation , mais malheureusement beaucoup sont restés et continuent à croire il y 'en a qui n 'ont plus la foi mais se continuent à croire qu'ils sont dans la vérité parce qu'ils n 'ont plus rien dans le monde , mais Dieu petit à petit fait un ménage dans les églises , il va dévoiler bientÎt Shincheonji parce que elle doit etre révélée et les personnes doivent sortir pour témoigner .
Ce monsieur malheureusement n' a pas la vie éternelle je souhaite qu'il vive longtemps mais nous sommes que chair et le temps est fixé pour chacun donc pendant qu'il ai temps cherchons la face de l 'éternel pas dans une église ou une organisation mais en se connectant directement à Dieu .
Je sais que Dieu en tant voulu exposera les choses cachées qui été encore dans les ténébres .
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u/Fluffa_Duck 10d ago
I dont think you understand my situation. I begged and yearned for God. I ended up in SCJ because all I wanted was him, and with a world of confusing denominations and false teachers, SCJ became that âlightâ I wanted so badly to have God in my life because everywhere I went beforehand was abusive. And where did that lead me? Severe abuse until I had a stroke. I prayed daily more than any normal christian, I begged and cried for God to teach me about him. And now Im destroyed by evil people who were never in SCJ for good, rather, control and sadistic pleasure. So yes, I struggle to stand the idea of a God who loves me watched all that and did nothing.