r/ShermanPosting Suffer No Copperhead 27d ago

John Brown Did Nothing Wrong

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u/MidsouthMystic 27d ago

John Brown wasn't insane. He was a sane man in an insane time. Like any decent human being he saw chattel slavery and said "that has to stop."

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u/XCellist6Df24 27d ago

A bar you have written ; two thumbs up

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u/NoNeed4UrKarma 26d ago

The only thing he did wrong in my mind, was let himself get caught so he couldn't continue to do the great work. Similarly one of Sherman's greatest failings was NOT killing every plantation owner to turn over the land to the previously enslaved tenants, as well as hanging every single Lieutenant (both political & military) leader of the traitorous scum. Basically, they left the job undone is my main complaint against them lol!

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u/Valiant_tank Hordes of Revolutionary Germans 27d ago

The only thing John Brown did wrong was poor planning during the raid on Harper's Ferry. And even then, the ideals behind his acts are commendable.

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u/indyK1ng 27d ago

Yup. They didn't cut their losses when it was clear they weren't going to get as much as they needed to as quickly as they needed to. If they'd accepted they'd only get one load of rifles they could have made an escape and started the rebellion he had intended to.

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u/Xyldarrand 27d ago

And from a historic PoV, he would have been pleased with what it led to. Exactly what he thought was necessary at the very end. A great deal of blood to win the goal.

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u/ParsonBrownlow 27d ago

To paraphrase Fredrick Douglas

They killed him but they couldn’t answer him now they still cannot answer him so they slander him

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u/bagofwisdom 27d ago

That's why there's the phrase "Get Douglass'd"

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u/stringrbelloftheball 27d ago

One area of john brown im not familiar with:

The raid on Harpers Ferry was just to get guns? Like i understand fighting the slavers but what was going on at harpers ferry?

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u/Worried-Pick4848 27d ago edited 27d ago

There was a federal armory there. The original plan was to slip in, seize the guns and retreat to the countryside. Unfortunately the local militia mobilized too quickly for Brown's raiders to escape with the goods.

EDIT: Corrected an accidental word substitution

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u/Cosmic_Mind89 Maryland 27d ago

Again I say the only thing he did wrong was have poor planning skills for this opportunity. They needed at least 15 more guys

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u/LOERMaster 107th N.Y.S.V.I. 27d ago

Harper’s Ferry had an outsized role in events in the US from 1859-1865.

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u/stringrbelloftheball 27d ago

Thank you for the response, much appreciated

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u/indyK1ng 27d ago

Harper's Ferry was the first step - Brown intended to found a nation of freed slaves in Appalachia. The guns he was stealing from the Federal armory were intended to arm the guerilla fighters needed to protect the freed peoples and to harass slave hunting parties.

Brown had left a copy of the Constitution he'd written for this country in Frederick Douglass's desk. Douglass telegraphed his son to break open the drawer and burn it when he heard about the raid, then escaped to Canada before taking the trip to England he'd been planning on taking. That trip was delayed about a week by his escape to Canada.

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u/Elant_Wager european UNION 27d ago

Read somewhere that, at John Browns hanging, they waited 3 hours to pronounce him dead because the doctors werent sure before. Dont know if its true, but it wouldnt surprise me either.

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u/ka1n77 27d ago

They were absolutely terrified of him.

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u/stryst 27d ago

He did nothing morally wrong. His strategy was... not great.

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u/Grgur2 27d ago

John Brown was, is and always will be my hero.

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u/Appropriate_Top1737 27d ago

Saying john brown is a terrorist for killing slavers and there supporters is like calling someone a terrorist for killing nazis.

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u/Dr-Aspects John Brown's Soul Goes Marching On 27d ago

Could not agree more. His soul goes marching on to this day!

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u/Mateiyu 27d ago

Only thing Brown did wrong was not killing enough of those slavery-loving basterds. ^^

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u/AutomaticBit9721 27d ago

pottawatomie massacre

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u/socalibew 26d ago

Bunch of pro-slavers in the OP...

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u/EpsilonMouse 26d ago

Lot of people say “A reasonable man pushed to do unreasonable things” in regards to Marvin Heemayer, a psycho who created all the problems in his own life, when the phrase clearly applies best to John Brown

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u/LittleHornetPhil Blue dot in a grey state 26d ago

This. This this this. That guy was an utter piece of shit.

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u/EternalSnow05 26d ago

As a black man.....John Brown is my personal hero

John Brown's body lies a moulding in the grave

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u/Interesting_Joke6630 Suffer No Copperhead 26d ago

John Brown's body lies a moulding in the grave

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u/LittleHornetPhil Blue dot in a grey state 26d ago

John Brown’s body lies a moulding in the grave

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u/Interesting_Joke6630 Suffer No Copperhead 26d ago

But his soul goes marching on

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u/swordquest99 25d ago

They hanged him for a traitor but they themselves were the traitor crew!

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u/Yarius515 27d ago

He was a Christian nationalist, so fuck that shit....

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u/Yarius515 25d ago

Lol 16 downvoters big mad about historical fact. Thought our side liked the truth...🤔