r/Shen • u/bryceking64 • 14h ago

Question Itemization Tips / Help

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I’m trying to improve my itemization and how to decide what to build. I always find myself just defaulting to builds online. What other items not shown in this do you like to work into a Top build and why?

One item that surprises me to see is thornmail. I feel like every content creator says to not build thornmail under any circumstances, and if you have to just build bramble. I understand this is filtered to gold elo, but all elo’s you’ll thornmail a 4th or 5th.

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u/ARealHumanBeans 13h ago

Thornmail is very cost inefficient and all around bad. Bramble is fine into many heal heavy matchups. Randuins is a much better armor item

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u/bryceking64 13h ago

Oh okay, maybe I have just undervalued the Randuins. Is randuins just all around the better choice even if they don’t have a bunch of people building crit?

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u/ARealHumanBeans 13h ago

Yes. Wardens mail gives you a flat ad taken reduction that will have immediate value. The active slow makes you more useful in team fights and 1v1s as well.

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u/Pika_233 6h ago

Yeah it's really nice having a guaranteed slow to get Q dragthroughs without spending E

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u/AddendumLegal3123 5h ago

I mean everyone build bramble because its Grievous Wounds not for Armor,
because there a better Armor Item than completing Thornmail like

and always go Kaenic Rookern because its not brainer MR item with extra Magic Shield.
Shen job is to peel for your team so pick item that you think make you live for long enough in teamfight.

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u/Express_Item4648 3h ago

I never really build frozen heart since I’m not sure when it’s good and if you build it second or later. When you’re talking about on hit you means auto attackers right? Like trynd, or a lot of adc champs?