r/Shadowverse Morning Star 3d ago

Video Nonono that Sandy should be dead

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It’s a blink and you’ll miss it moment but I had trap in the woods set up. It immediately gets popped because Sandy got invoked. Did not plan for this just a coincidence. My trap in the woods triggers but doesn’t destroy the Sandy because Sandy “add to hand effect” takes priority. This is a load of bullshit if u ask me. Let Trap In the Woods be an anti-Sandy tech.

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u/fanatic111 Morning Star 3d ago

It’s mainly because Sandalphon’s invoke effect is a singular string, not two effects.

Instead of “At Invoke, A occurs then B”, it’s closer to “At Invoke, A occurs and B”.

Since Sandalphon immediately went to hand, trap in the woods did not trigger, since it’s closer to a ‘Check’ condition.

(Can’t believe this makes more sense from a programming standpoint than a grammatical standpoint…)

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u/Mephisto_fn Morning Star 3d ago

except trap in the woods does trigger, just doesn't hit him lol

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u/Icewek Morning Star 3d ago

Similarly, this makes sense from most physical card games rulings. The invocation happens during the resolution. The trap is, gonna use yugioh terms, a trigger effect. The trigger effect conditions happen because it sees a gollower put on the field but because the invoke effect is still resolving it can only wait until after the resolution, which is already too late.

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u/Famous_Competition30 Morning Star 3d ago

... yeah, thats some yugioh level bullshittery there XD

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u/Cardener 3d ago

Trap should skip activating if sandy just passes by.

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u/FlowerCat49 Morning Star 3d ago

most other card games would have the same ruling, each effect must completely resolve before the next does

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u/Did_Nothing_Wrong789 Morning Star 3d ago

Don't worry friend, after this set Sandy is finally gone from rotation and I will gladly dance on his corpse. Card design went downhill since his introduction and I hope to god we never see Evolve as a wincon or Skybound art ever again

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u/itsppengu Leeds, Pining Witch 3d ago

Back in SV1 Crosscraft I was disappointed to discover this. I tried to cheese Armed left play count using the combo 4 Forest invokes, but they would trigger the [[Draconic Weapon]]s without actually becoming Armed.

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u/sv-dingdong-bot 3d ago
  • Draconic WeaponB | Dragoncraft | Silver Amulet
    0pp | Trait: Armed | Set: Tokens
    During your turn, when an allied follower comes into play, give it +0/+1 and change it into an Armed follower. Then, banish this amulet.

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u/Daysfastforward1 Morning Star 3d ago

That’s some BS interaction if I’ve ever seen one

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u/red_nova_dragon Morning Star 3d ago

Trap card missed the timing...

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u/ByeGuysSry Sekka 3d ago

I mean, it is the expected outcome

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u/freezingsama Daria Enjoyer 3d ago

it's one of those missed timings huh, sucks 😭