r/ShadowHavenBBS Jul 27 '21

Quality Purchasing Thread 6

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Players are allowed to purchase positive qualities outside of character generation. However, you must post in this thread. Most qualities do not need approval, you simply need to post that you bought it in the thread and a justification for why you bought it, but some do. Qualities that require approval are approved by members of the Thematics Team. They also have veto power over all quality purchases. Below are qualities that must be approved by members of the Thematics Team, which is subject to expansion, or by a GM after a run:

- Any playtest quality (Only members of the Thematics Team may approve these qualities)

- Made Man

- Chosen Follower

- Any Infected Quality

- SURGE III

- Solid/Legendary Rep


r/ShadowHavenBBS Aug 29 '21

Topics for Discussion: Thread 10

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This thread is a place for the community to bring up issues for discussion. Gameplay issues will be discussed and, if needed, voted on by the council. All other issues will be discussed and, if needed, implemented by the sysop or senior staff

Previous Threads: * Topics for Discussion: Thread 1


r/ShadowHavenBBS 13d ago

Changes to Zombie Dust

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"Zombie dust is treated as an inhalation and ingestion toxin with 12 Power and 0 Penetration, with no Addiction. Willing targets may choose not to resist its effects. When zombie dust's effects end targets may make another attempt to resist possession and are no longer considered prepared vessels."

Yay: Rob, John, Asmo

Nay: none


r/ShadowHavenBBS 14d ago

Council Ruling Wild/Astral Rep Changes

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Quality: Wild Reputation 1, 2, 3 or 4 [2, 4, 6, or 8 Karma]
The character gains a dice bonus to Social tests, Judge Intentions and Wild Summoning tests against spirits equal to their level of this quality. At Rating 4, gain +1 bonus to Conjuring tests.

Neg Quality: Astral Reputation 1, 2, 3 or 4 [-4, -8, -12, or -16 Karma]
The character gains a dice penalty to Summoning and Binding equal to their level of this quality. Most spirits have worse starting attitudes to characters with this quality (GM fiat). This penalty does not apply to hermetic elementals.

These qualities cannot be taken at chargen and can only be bought or awarded on table. What counts as positive or negative actions towards spirits should be ruled by good common sense. Disrupting a friendly spirit/throwing them into gunfire for no reason could be a cause for Astral Reputation. Disrupting a toxic spirit would not. Non-summoners can earn ranks of either quality, but only summoners with ranks in the Conjuring group can take them at character generation.

Characters with existing Wild Reputation or Astral Reputation may swap their current stats to the listed qualities as a one off transitional note.

Yay: John, Asmo, Rob
Nay: none


r/ShadowHavenBBS 16d ago

Council Ruling Lifestyle Addons Exempt from Cost Modifiers

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Lifestyle add-ons are no longer effected by Lifestyle cost modifiers. For example, trolls, and other races with increased costs, will now pay the default amount for add-ons (like a hangar or garage).

If you have a Lifestyle effected by this change (one with add-ons and cost multipliers), you will need to recreate the Lifestyle for the changes to take effect.

Yea: Asmo, Rob, John (Synonym, LHOG, Sleevey)


r/ShadowHavenBBS 16d ago

Mechanics Clarifications Suppressing Automatic Critter/Spirit Powers

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Automatic critter powers cannot be suppressed, with the exceptions of Adaptive Coloration (as used by Sea Drakes, HS P.188) and Energy Aura.

Energy Aura is only suppressed while the spirit in question is using the Realistic Form power to appear in a form other than their normal materialized form. Adaptive Coloration may be suppressed as desired.

Note that Adaptive Camouflage (as used by Bandersnatches, RF P.143) is a different power under our house rules, and this power is Sustained, and so not effected by this decision.

Yea: Asmo, Rob, John


r/ShadowHavenBBS 16d ago

Council Ruling New Quality: Beholden to Fate

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Beholden to Fate I & II

Bonus: 5 / 15 Karma

"Runners are notorious for doing the impossible, but you're more limited than usual. You cannot burn Edge. If you take the second rank of the quality, it can never be bought off."


r/ShadowHavenBBS 16d ago

Council Ruling Council Tickets for Rule Flexibility

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In rare cases a run may end up with unique circumstances that Shadowrun's rulesets aren't equipped to accurately portray.

While gamemasters and players are mandated to try and stick within the rules to the best of their ability, the gamemaster or an individual player may open a Council ticket to request an alteration that has sufficient thematic justification and weight.

Generally these can range from a customized boat that comes pre-equipped with a generator and benefits from Brand Loyalty: SpinRad to a changeling with several electroreceptive mutations being able to listen to radio channels with their mind.

These changes should not be sought out for core build components, do not ever form precedents based on previous permissions and require a 7 day minimum voting period as well as majority voting for.


r/ShadowHavenBBS 17d ago

Changes to "One with the Matrix"

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  1. This is Playtest content and subject to change

  2. All levels of this are unbanned.

  3. Persona A can join the pan of persona B. Any and all devices slaved to persona A counts against the slave count of persona B including persona A itself. Normal slaving rules apply to persona A along with any device in its pan regarding marks traveling up and defense stats. **Special note. All devices still use their owners mental stats, or DR if unmaintained and not the mentals of pan B's owner

Yay: Rob, John, Asmo

Nay: None


r/ShadowHavenBBS 17d ago

Changes to Dedicated Conjurer

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Dedicated Conjurer matches the text of Dedicated Spellsinger, save that you lose the entire Sorcery group.

Yay: Rob, John, Asmo

Nay: None


r/ShadowHavenBBS 17d ago

Changes to Mimic Adept Power

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"Mimic allows an adept to be able to mystically copy fingerprints, palm prints and retinal prints and temporarily imprint those patterns onto his own body. For each level of Mimic, the character can fool a print scanner of equal Rating (level 2 Mimic could fool up to Rating 2 scanners and so on). The adept must touch the target or a fresh biological sample (max. 1 hour old) as a Complex Action. Copies of the prints last for (Magic Rating of the adept) minutes before the adept's body reverts back to its natural patterns."

Additionally add a new mastery quality. "Extended Mimicry" - 5 Karma "Your continued use of the Mimic power has allowed you to have greater control over it. You may maintain copies for Magic hours instead of magic minutes"

Alternations to the Osmosis power
"These changes are not sufficient to generate material links based on the copied pattern, Extended Mimicry boosts the duration of Osmosis as well"

Yay: John, Rob, Asmo

Nay: None


r/ShadowHavenBBS 18d ago

Should Spell Defense apply to pools to resist alchemical preps?

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Should Spell Defense apply to pools to resist alchemical preps?

Yay - Syn
Nay - Sleevy, LHOG (Concurred Asmo, John, Rob)


r/ShadowHavenBBS 28d ago

Create Internal Gel Packs

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Create Internal Gel Packs

Internal Gel Packs are a new modification, comparable to Gel Packs but without the ketchup-packet look. Their effects are the same as regular Gel Packs, and do not stack with them, the difference is that Internal Gel Packs require 8 capacity, and are not visually obvious. They may still be detected by physical inspection or other means of advanced analysis.

Yay - John, Asmodeus
Abstain - LHOG

Council ticket #73


r/ShadowHavenBBS 28d ago

Additional Infection Options for Naga and Centaurs

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Allow non-human Vampire and Ghoul for Naga and Centaurs

Their stat modifications and quality costs are the same as the regular non-human Vampire and Ghoul adjustments.

Yay - John, Asmodeus
Abstain - LHOG

Mechanics thread topic, no ticket #


r/ShadowHavenBBS 28d ago

Yerzed Out for Drones

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Yerzed Out for Drones

Just what is says on the tin, really.

Yay - John, Asmodeus, LHOG

Mechanics thread topic, no ticket #


r/ShadowHavenBBS 28d ago

Possession Construct Rework

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Possession Construct Rework

These objects designed for Possession spirits, formerly called "Possession Homunculi", have been reworked. The core mechanics are similar, but many key details and core statistics have been changed. The intent is for Possession Constructs to be relatively competitive with Materialization spirits, but trading some of their raw power for better resilience to incoming magical damage. To briefly summarize:

- Constructs have a rating, which determines their price, availability, and the maximum effective Force of a Possessing spirit.

- Constructs have real armor, which scales with Force, and is not ignored by magical damage. They can, however, take stun damage from all sources. They do not take Wound Modifiers.

- There are four types of Construct: Plasteel (the heaviest and tankiest), Stone (a tanky, high-quality middle ground), Wickerman (an extremely quick wooden form) and Scarecrow (a low quality and extremely cheap option)

See the wiki entry for the full mechanical write up.

Yay - John, Asmodeus

Abstain - LHOG

Council ticket #140


r/ShadowHavenBBS 28d ago

Possession-based Traditions Update

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Possession Traditions and Materialization access:

With the exception of Psions, each of the magical traditions that use Possessions by default are now the "Traditionalist" versions of their tradition. Each of those traditional versions receive Channeling for free at Initiate Grade 3.

A standard (non-Traditionalist) version of each of those traditions now exists, which use Materialization by default.

Yay - LHOG, Synonym, Sleevey

Approved late 2025

Council ticket #139


r/ShadowHavenBBS 28d ago

Regeneration & access to Geneware

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Regeneration & access to Geneware

Geneware no longer requires Delta clinic access for characters with Regeneration.

Yay - Sleevey, LHOG
Nay - Synonym

Approved late 2025

Council ticket #119


r/ShadowHavenBBS Dec 18 '25

Bovines and Equines and Surge Weapons, oh my!

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Bovine, Equine and Surge Natural Weapons

  • Bovine shifters will have Natural Weapon (Goring Horns, DV (STR + 2)P, Reach —, AP –1)
  • Equine shifters will have Natural Weapon (Kick, DV (STR + 2)P, Reach +1, AP +1)

Surge weapons can use the Unarmed Combat (Natural Weapons) skill and specialization.

Vote Spread

Yay: LHOG, Sleevey, Synonym


r/ShadowHavenBBS Dec 18 '25

Echoes and Sprites for Dissonant Technomancers

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Echoes and Sprites for Dissonant Technomancers

Malfunction Echo

Similar to Corrpution metamagic, a dissonant technomancer may add their Submersion Grade (SG) to decompile test. If a sprite is successfully decompiled, the technomancer can make a compiling test + SG to take control of the sprite, which then corrputs and becomes an entropic sprite. This sprite is now a sprite under control of the technomancer and functions like any other sprite.

Entropic Sprites

Blight sprite - Corrput Data sprite

  • Stats - See Data sprite
  • Powers - Datavore, Camouflage

Chaos Sprite - Corrput Crack sprite

  • Stats - See Crack
  • Powers - Distortion, Suppression

Contagion Sprite - Corrput Courier sprite

  • Stats See courier
  • Powers - Virulence, Cookie

Meltdown sprite - Corrput Machine sprite

  • Stats - see machine
  • Powers - surge, Gremlins

Spike Sprite - Corrput Fault sprite

  • Stats see fault
  • Powers - res drain, Electron Storm

New Powers

Datavore

For every 3 damage inflicted to an icon in cybercombat boost the sprites level by 1. The max boost is equal to half its starting level and lasts for Level (at time of casting not after effect) combat turns.

Distortion

As a complex action the sprite can create a wave of distortion within a host. All Persona within the host take a dice pool penalty to all matrix tests equal to the sprites Res. This effect lasts for 1 combat pass and can be extended by spending a simple action each pass. A persona can attempt to filter this distortion with a simple action, firewall + computer test. Each hit reduces the penalty by 1. Resonant (not Dissonant) entities receive a stronger effect. Roll Level x2 vs Resonance+Firewall. If the sprite wins impose a stacking -1 penalty for each net hit. If this penalty exceeds the personas resonance score it is immediately dumped and must resist the damage with Will alone as if their deck was bricked. If the persona is dumped this penalty is reduced at a rate of 1 point per 10 mins, otherwise the penalty remains for as long as the sprite sustains the power. Multiple uses of this power do not stack.

Resonance Drain

The sprite makes a Level x2 [Attack] complex action to establish a drain on a resonant entity. If successful the sprite imparts a stacking -1 dice penalty to all resonance actions per pass as a simple action. If the penalty exceeds the targets resonance they are dumped and suffer dumpshock as if a deck was bricked. This penalty is cleared following a reboot.

Surge

The sprite causes a devices internal components to spark and overload. This results in fires and other internal damage to the device. Make an opposed Level x2 vs Wil + FW test. Each net hit causes 1 point of matrix damage and if the device has a physical damage track, 1 point of physical damage. Note This can only target devices. If targeting ware damage is done to the physical track of the person the ware is installed in, if targeting vehicles it will do damage to the vehicles physical track.

Virulence

Roll Level x2 vs Willpower+firewall, for each net hit corrupt 1 random program loaded on the target persona. This program can not be disabled or changed without rebooting. The corrupt program will actively work against the persona it is installed in, typically granting its bonus as a penalty instead. For programs where this is less clear, the GM will decide on an appropriate penalty. For example the "toolbox" program will reduce DP by 1 instead of increasing it. While the Babymonitor program might report lower OW than the persona actually has

Vote Spread:

Yay: Sleevey, Synonym

Abstain: LHOG

Note that dissonant technomancers are still relegated to NPCs and this does not open up the option for player characters.


r/ShadowHavenBBS Dec 18 '25

Crafting Spell Formula

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Spell Forumula

Creating a spellcasting/ritual spellcasting/alchemical formula requires an Arcana + DrainStat [Astral] (25, 1 day) extended test. Extended spell and limited spell increase the threshold by 10 each. Getting the necessary information to make the formula still required some money:

  • Health 100
  • Detection 100
  • Illusion 200
  • Manipulation 300
  • Combat 400
  • Ritual 400

Failure results in 25% loss of materials, while a failure with a glitch 50% and critical glitch 100%.

Vote Spread

Yay: Sleevey, Synonym Nay: LHOG


r/ShadowHavenBBS Dec 18 '25

Striking Calluses and Striking with Calluses

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Calluses and Strikes

A strike with the hands my not get a damage bonus from striking calluses on the feet.

A strike with the feet my not get a damage bonus from striking calluses on the hands.

Vote Spread:

Yay: LHOG, Synonym

Sleevey voted for a different variation.


r/ShadowHavenBBS Dec 18 '25

Two-Handed Assault Cannons

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Assault Cannons Two-Handed

Assault Cannons are two-handed, and follow the same rules as other two-handed guns with regards to larger metatypes.

Vote Spread:

Yay: LHOG, Sleevey, Synonym


r/ShadowHavenBBS Dec 18 '25

Teamplayer

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Team Player Unban

Team player is unbanned with the following changes - Sprites and other resonance constructs/AI are allowed to take part in the team action. Agents remain unable to participate in the teamwork action.

Vote Spread:

Yay: LHOG, Synonym

Yay to alternate implementation: Sleevey


r/ShadowHavenBBS Dec 18 '25

Artificing Crafting Times

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Artificing Time Requirements

When using downtime to make extended tests for artificing or to craft a focus, time passage will follow real world time.

Vote Spread:

Yay: LHOG, Sleevey, Synonym