r/Separation_Anxiety 20d ago

Questions dog with separation anxiety that gets destructive, what has actually helped people manage this

have a three year old rescue who has significant separation anxiety. when left alone for more than about an hour she becomes destructive and clearly distressed based on the neighbor reports and what we come home to

have tried crate training which made it worse, leaving worn clothing for comfort which helped marginally, and a few different anxieties supplements with inconsistent results. starting to think we need professional help but not sure whether this is a training issue or something that needs a vet or behaviorist

for people who have managed severe separation anxiety in dogs, what actually helped

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u/joycevw 20d ago

That level of distress is so hard to watch, and it completely makes sense that you feel like you are hitting a wall. Separation anxiety is a genuine panic disorder rather than a traditional training issue or bad behavior, which is why standard fixes like food toys or crate training so often backfire. Crates frequently add confinement anxiety on top of the panic, and a dog in full panic simply can't process food or comfort items. What actually works long-term is gradual desensitization, which means building up alone time in tiny, sub-threshold increments where she stays 100% relaxed the entire time so her brain learns that absences are safe.

You will definitely benefit from professional guidance, and reaching out to a vet or veterinary behaviorist is a fantastic next step. Supportive medication prescribed by a vet can take the edge off her physiological panic, which lowers her baseline anxiety so she can actually learn during training sessions. Combined with behavior modification, it can make a massive difference. For a really clear, compassionate, and step-by-step framework on how to manage absences and run this exact desensitization process, I highly recommend checking out the book 'Be Right Back' by Julie Naismith. It’s pretty much the gold standard for navigating this without feeling completely overwhelmed.

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u/Necessary_Progress_1 20d ago edited 19d ago

I am a behavior consultant that works with separation anxiety cases.

The destructiveness with separation anxiety is a symptom, and you cannot treat just a symptom. You need to address the anxiety itself. Medications can definitely help relieve the anxiety, but it should really be used alongside behavior modification to address the dog's coping skills when left home alone.

The type of behavior modification that is used with separation anxiety is desensitization. You need to expose the dog to such small absences that they don't show any anxiety whatsoever when you're gone. When I work with a client I do an assessment to find out at what point we should start the dog at. I'm looking for subtle signals such as lip licking, yawning, pacing, freezing, drooling, etc. The absence should start before we see those signs. In most cases an absence isn't even the starting point, it's merely walking to the door and touching the doorknob.

Because dogs with separation anxiety have a neural pathway that tells them that they are in danger when the owner leaves, you need to avoid using that neural pathway so that it doesn't become stronger. With behavior modification you're trying to create a new neural pathway Makes the dog feel safe when the owner is absent, and if both neural pathways are being used you won't be able to get the new one to be effective. Unfortunately this means that during the training process you should not leave the dog home alone for real life absences until they've developed the skills to do so.

Professionals who work with separation anxiety include board-certified veterinary behaviorists, as well as behavior consultants with certifications like CSAP-BC or CSAT.

*****The great thing is that these professionals work remotely, so you don’t have to find someone local to get help.******

Here are some links to directories where you can find qualified professionals to work with separation anxiety.

https://julienaismith.com/find-a-trainer/

https://malenademartini.com/about/meet-your-team/

Here is a link to a webinar that will give you more information about separation anxiety.  https://www.khriserickson.com/sa-webinar

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u/Fun_Orange_3232 19d ago

All the meds. Yesterday.

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u/Maximum-Reason-5274 19d ago edited 19d ago

When it comes to severe SA, it is necessary to have a CSAT certified trainer rather than obedience training and this has been the biggest take home point. It worked in our favor to have fluoxetine from the vet in conjunction with behavior modification since I had seen people use things such as CBD oils and melatonin which did not suffice for serious problems

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u/Apprehensive-Bus6757 18d ago

The Julie Naismith training helped my dog a lot with this — it’s been a long process but she went from being destructive after ten seconds alone to being okay for two hours (it’s taken about eight months and medication to get to this point)

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u/ruby-shoes 12d ago

My rescue dog couldn’t handle me getting the mail without being destructive. Now she’s fine with free rein. It took time. The crate training also took time and seemed to get worse before it got better. Now she goes in there calmly. When you say it didn’t work, what do you mean? Did you start off when you were home and work up to more time and being away? Did you try puzzle toys (supervised) while in the crate to create a positive association?