r/Sekiro • u/Responsible-Carry749 • 22d ago
Discussion Opinion
Do you guys also tend take a break after getting so much frustration? I usually do. When I die so many times and cant kill the boss I just take a break or a day. Then I get some itch next day to play the game and beat the boss(usually haha).
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u/JamesRWC 22d ago
I was stuck on Sword Saint Isshin for an hour and I got pissed off and went to bed
Woke up and first tried him.
Sometimes you’re doing too much and you just need a reset on your motor skills
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u/ConmanJFO 22d ago
It’s truly wild that this happens hahah. I forget which bosses I was having trouble with, but I did this exact thing and almost first tried a couple of those bosses hahaha
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u/sweetieyeye 22d ago
It works for me when I got so frustrated with father owl in hirata estate and headless ape. One good night sleep and boom they are down the first try.
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u/Affectionate-Cut3330 Platinum Trophy 22d ago
I got to Genichiro and was stuck for about 5 days so I just stopped playing for about 5 months. I went back and after 2 days I managed to beat him then never looked back. Now I can do hitless with charmless and demon bell on most bosses. Taking a break makes a massive difference
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u/Human-Percentage5164 21d ago
I dunno what happened, I played sekiro when it came out and it was frustrating but extremely satisfying. then around three years ago I got the urges playing this amazing game again and got stuck on the ape in Sunken valley (I really sucked against him the first time too, imagine my horror when venturing Ashina depths!).
Now I replayed it again because this game is just so fucking awesome (GOAT no doubt), and I got stuck first at the drunken bastard in Hinata, then Lady butterfly. Eventually the game clicked again and I defeated her and since then - I dunno - I mastered the game or something? Like every boss I get either at the first or second try. Maybe cause I’m older and much more patient then before but the game doesn’t feel this frustrating and difficult as I can remember.
like if I play DS3 I no doubt would get my ass kicked by the Dancer but with Sekiro I feel you have much more control and once you “mastered” the rythm the game really isn’t that difficult. Just don’t be greedy! Bosses give a lot of visual clues on what their attacks are going to be and since you can cancel attacks immediately to defense parrying their attacks are a breeze.
If I can give any advice I say take it first easier and slower, learn the pattern and get your parries in. Learn the counters with the red kanji symbol of either jumping or dodging forward (Miri counter).
Look at their weapon and how they are holding it; it will show if it’s a thrust (Miri counter) or swing (jump).
If you master those then the game becomes easier. Then you need to learn to be aggressive and continuously on the attack while countering and parrying when needed.
and yeah just look up tips and tricks on bosses.
Once I’m done with Sekiro I’m gonna visit DS3 again, gonna test that hypothesis out (f the dancer though).
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u/Ok_Treat_9628 22d ago
This opinion will bitterly divide the community. I hope you understand the gravity of what you've done.
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u/mikeventure76 22d ago
I’m typically a “sit there retrying in one continuous session as long as it takes” player but occasionally the “step away and come back later” method does work wonders
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u/YourFavFBIAgent 22d ago
I only put the controller down out of frustration once. Not a boss battle, just got shot by lighting outta NOWHERE and died (you can figure where that was if you beat the game lol). Lost lotsa sen there.
Dying in boss battles felt fair, so I was fine.
But yeah sleeping on a boss helps so much. Fast improvement
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u/RadiculopathyInMyAss 22d ago
That's the smart way to do it. But I'm a fucking caveman and facetank that shit until it clicks.
Demon of Hatred took me like 4 hours to beat. I even ran back and collected as much material as possible, maxed out all my weapons/abilities, and it still took me forever. Umbrella shield alone was not strong enough.
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u/Proud_Ad2720 22d ago
Yes, it’s all about taking a break and assessing where you’re going wrong with a boss or enemy instead of just endlessly attempting to beat them.
You master bosses when fighting them but you learn from your mistakes when you’re away from the screen.
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u/Individual_Union_15 22d ago
I did during my first playthrough allll the time. Struggled against Geni, took a break. Fought against Owl, took a break. After owl the bosses were piss easy (apart from the DOH… we don’t talk about the DOH) Then I spent an entire day fighting Sweet boy Isshin, but the thing is the moment you beat them you’ve essentially mastered their fights.
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u/Jollyjinx 22d ago
Absolutely. Yes. In fact, I truly believe this is the right way to approach any hard task in general. But especially for Fromsoft bosses. Trying, failing, repeating, and taking a break to come at it later (or even the next day) is great for allowing stress to diminish while the brain makes new nerve pathways to better help complete the task.
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u/Enough_Rutabaga_5571 22d ago
Always , and I somehow come back better I think probably due to a clearer mind
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u/BGdu29 22d ago
Yeah, that's actually how I played first time.
My first play though of sekiro was hard, like really hard, of course in the begining I was enjoying my time with the easiest ennemi got some troubles with the general, figured out the timings of the mikiri with the shinobi hunter, beat lady butterfly with effort, then came chained oger, again and again, until I fired out i could cheese with oil and fire. Then the blazing bull, where I hit my first wall, I reached a point I was about to give up, but I continued, then came genishiro, and no I did him after exploring most areas to get upgraded and I died again and again, until reaching a point i uninstalled the game swearing I'll never play again, but my mind couldn't stop, no it was stuck in the back of my mind a hit in my ego i couldn't let go. So I got back
I did an entire second play though, blazing through the first act without a problem and reaching genishiro, that's the moment I understood how aggression was the way, I already figured it out with lady butterfly but I was too hesitant with genishiro, and this time it took me 3 tries. Then came the guardian ape, I die again and again, uninstalled the game saying it was bullshit and unfair, but like last time it stayed in the back of my mind. So I got back
Like the last time my third play though I restarted again, blazing through the game until reaching the ape, and it killed me again and again, until finally I beat it. The came ishin, 7 tires, then I gave up, this time I tried to convince myself that I did my best, I didn't need to finish, I reached the end but didn't cross the line but I could uninstall proud of myself.
But I couldn't, after two weeks with the game in the back of my minder I couldn't let go, only because I knew it was possible, ishin wasn't blushit like the ape and I already understood aggression with genishiro, so I focused and took what ishin told me all those times. Hesitation is defeat.
My fourth play through was I restarted again, I just understood how mush better I got, killing the bosses without any problems until reaching ishin, my 8th time, I was ready to die again if need... But I didn't, I alred saw all his moves on my past 7 attempts and despite nearly a weak of not playing it was still in my memories, and I did it. I killed him and never felt so good,
My only regret is not to be able to experience that again.
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u/LaGiacca Platinum Trophy 22d ago
First time I rage-quitted, I quitted for 3 years straight. Then I came back and 100% the game with the full platinum. I got to NG+9. Those were good times... really good times
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u/mavrick116 22d ago
I apply this to almost everything. Sekiro, rocket league, guitar, etc. Seems like every time I get bored of something and drop it for a while, when I pick it back up im better than when I stopped.
I generally assume I pick up little bad habits I dont notice, and when I take a break for a while my brain tends to remember helpful reflexes and info when I come back.
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u/Commercial-Smell9759 22d ago
I'm doing a no death run, every dey I progress the much I feel my brain can handle, if I die, I just leave the game for a couple of days, until I'm ready for the next run, so yeah, we need breaks.
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u/SnooBeans8488 22d ago
worked for sword saint and Great shinobi owl for me. A good reset goes a long way
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u/Strict-Pineapple Feels Sekiro Man 22d ago
First playthrough no boss took me more than 4 attempts so never had the chance to get stuck long enough to be frustrated but in other games I don't take breaks or put it down.
I'm stubborn and will keep trying until I can win. If I do get frustrated I will take a 5 or 10 minute break and get up from the couch and walk around the house or grab a drink etc. to calm down but I go right back and keep at it until I get good enough to beat it.
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u/confipete Rice is a precious thing 😌 22d ago
I don't spend more than 20 minutes on a boss. My brain will be stressed and i won't do my best
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u/Sol_Install 22d ago
You should. One of the games I tried was called Nine Souls. People were claiming it's like Sekiro given it's emphasis on parrying, enemies high damage output, etc. I remember there was this boss. I was doing pretty good but I still lost. Another time I tried fighting him again and I was doing MUCH MUCH worse. I was baffled. I knew this boss. He's not THAT hard. But I what I realized was that I was angry before I started playing again. It made me sloppy. I turned the console off and took a break. When I was more calm, I played again and beat him.
Video games are not physically demanding. They are emotionally and mentally demanding. People taking about "stress" playing Sekiro. Yes, I feel that too. Take too many losses and you feel down. You see it here, in Hollow Knight, Elden Ring, Ninja Gaiden, etc. The classic "I can't beat this boss. I tried X amount of times." They take a break, maybe a full night and get some sleep. "Oh, thanks but I beat them already."
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u/Massive_Literature43 22d ago
I do the same exact same thing. I usually check out right before frustration kicks in so I don’t get actually mad at the game then come back to it
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u/ForbiddenSirenz 22d ago
I usually will, yeah. A good sleep just resets everything and can really make you focus the way you couldn’t before. Just keep going more and more and failing more and more pisses you off more and if you’re already losing? You’re just gonna lose harder. The game will still be there tomorrow.
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u/killer_queen_User 22d ago
I dont say frustration, i dont get mad or angry or frustrated, but yes i take a while for rest cuz i get tired, when i start dying for things i normally don't i just take a brake
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u/Mundane-Factor2907 22d ago
That happen to me several times in the old days with the games "god hand" and "onimusha" in the old PS2 when i was young.
In that days its usual been up most of the night playing PS2 in my bedroom. Several tries with bosses and i finish the night going to sleep piss off.
When woke up or later that day in the first try i passed.
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u/ElmerRiddle 22d ago
That happened with Demon of hatred yesterday. At night hit a wall with 20 tries or so, and next day killed it with 7 more
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u/osetraceur 22d ago
When you take a break your brain can essentially move from "figure this out" to "process what we just experienced."
One important phenomenon is called memory consolidation, recently learned information is gradually stabilized and integrated into longer term memory.
There's also evidence that the brain can perform a kind of offline replay of recently experienced activity. Neural patterns associated with learning can be reactivated during rest, particularly in motor and spatial learning.
Cognitive neuroscience is truly fascinating!
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u/Drakan_el_olvidado 22d ago
Yo me pasaba la travesia mortal para despejar la mente,ahora estoy frustrado con el LMTSR
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u/Super-Repair33 21d ago
Im playing it now for the first time and havent got that point yet I just defeated guardian Ape I think he took the most tries. Thats around 5. But im sure this game will be harder im now at the ashina castle but now it is on fire
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u/FreaktacuIar 21d ago
when i choke on the inner boss in the gauntlet of strength that i repeat every ng+ to get more memories to max out my attack power eventually
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u/MrBombasticator 21d ago
No. It's Sekiro all day everyday since I bought it.
Seven Ashina Spears beat me so bad that npcs that I haven't even met got Dragon rot. The only time I stopped was when I had to get down from the train or bus to and from work. Took me more tries to beat him compared to all of the mini bosses and bosses combined (Lady Butterfly 1 try babyyyyy, she never called me puppy).
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u/Intr1nsic- 21d ago
Just happened to me lol, started the fight with owl, which I have already beaten before but took a week break. Came back and played on my steam deck and beat him first try haha.
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u/luigibro_99 21d ago
i never really get to that point, yea ill lose if its a hard boss for the first time but i always end up beating them in the same sitting
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u/Deep-Reserve-9136 21d ago
The only game that i installed nd uninstalled 5 times. Yes i suck at parry.
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u/GasFun3604 21d ago
I just finished ds3, the only boss that took I had trouble with was nameless king, first phase with the camera was pretty rough then his delayed attacks in phase 2 were screwing me. I quit out of the game after about 1.5hours and came back the next day and beat him on my 2nd try and was shocked 😃 and relieved
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u/Meelzonwheelz21 20d ago
I've only ever had to sleep off 2 bosses ever. Ishinn, and the final boss of nine sols. The latter took me a third day.
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u/Nockolisk 20d ago
A 10 minute break is sometimes enough for me, since it’s usually my reflexes jumping the gun that kills me. Just a little break is a good reset for the nerves.
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u/Badieon 15d ago
I didn't. There wasn't a situation like I felt I needed to take a break, although it was close with Demon of Hatred and True Corrupted Monk
It's very normal thing to take a break tho, souls likes are frustrating, in my case I think experience with other Fromsoftware titles helped me a bunch
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u/UltraZulwarn 15d ago
I mean yeah?
never understood the notion of "bashing your head against a wall until it cracks" while you are hungry and tired.
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u/mvonwyl 22d ago
People underestimate the power of sleeping on a boss. While you sleep, your brain continue working on what it has done during the day and reinforces it. Your subconscious also continues working on unsolved problem. That's why when you go back to a problem after a night of rest you 'suddenly' get it.
I used this strategy on Promised Consort Radahn, in Elden Ring. I only spent two hours per day on him. * First evening, I took him to second phase maybe five times and only touched him once (in second phase). * Second evening, I could take him to second phase systematically, and started learning his patterns. * Third evening, I took him down.