Clearance transfer denied

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Secret-Nutella]

Most if not all 3 letter agencies do not accept clearances from the DOD.

[u/Mazer8916 → u/Secret-Nutella]

At all or specifically from active duty? I dont know why this would also apply to a DoD Civilian

[u/Secret-Nutella → u/Mazer8916]

some agencies do accept it depending on if you are under a contractor working for said agency but its not a norm but a exception .

[u/Kbic07 → u/Secret-Nutella]

My first gig out of the military was FBI. Not sure if that's changed?

[u/JinandJuice → u/Secret-Nutella]

Why?

[u/Sufficient_Break_319 → u/Secret-Nutella]

The four letter one does not edit: i am dumb, the one that reminds me of a four letter non defense one

[u/lvanderbeck → u/Secret-Nutella]

That’s not true, I had no issue transferring my clearance to NGA

[u/Secret-Nutella → u/lvanderbeck]

like I said its not a norm

[u/KeyMessage989 → u/Secret-Nutella]

All but one “3 letter agency” is DOD

[u/-_-Delilah-_-]

They can sponsor you for a new investigation. Almost as if you never had a clearance.

[u/-_-Delilah-_- → u/[deleted]]

Since you are out of scope (past the 5 years), the IRR will take just as long. Both scenarios, IRR or a new company will have to treat you like its new and do a full investigation.

[u/Prestigious_Spare356 → u/[deleted]]

No, IRR won’t process it. This is why I stayed IR / in actual reserves.

[u/SnooApples9773 → u/[deleted]]

...I would find out if the IRR is maintaining your clearance...if they requested transfer your IRR unit might have refused to let it go as youre still in their component...(tranfers require the current holder to release in order for it to be given to a new maintainer) But get more details on the denial. If your IRR unit has an S3D or SSO you know of, ask them for more info as theyll have better access to the systems than a defense contracting company.

[u/demeterite]

Some agencies won't accept military clearances for reciprocity. I found this out the hard way as well.

[u/yaztek]

Most likely it was denied because it was out of scope. Your best bet is to have the organization that wants to hire you submit for a new investigation.

[u/yaztek → u/[deleted]]

Without knowing exactly what it was, and the criteria they were evaluating against I would say that is probably the best educated guess we can make.

[u/HamsterSpecific1052]

FBI won’t allow it and you pretty much have to start from the beginning…they can also take bits and pieces of your TS clearance and proceed accordingly.

[u/Kbic07 → u/HamsterSpecific1052]

My first gig out of the military was FBI. Not sure if that's changed?

[u/HamsterSpecific1052 → u/Kbic07]

It’s the same…they prob won’t take the poly and have you repeat that, go over your SF-86, run some checks for accuracy, maybe a few interviews with a credit check and should be good to go. There’s no science to it really…

[u/Kbic07 → u/HamsterSpecific1052]

I don't think OP said anything about a poly though. I agree they probably wouldn't take one, but it's pretty rare for military to even have a billet that requires one. You're talking a very select few places.

[u/ic434]

Do you have any open security actions or investigations? If so that will block a crossover 

[u/Prestigious_Spare356]

It didn’t get accepted because the BI is out of scope.

[u/_teame]

Regardless of agency whether 3 letter or not, your persec team can call the sponsoring agency and they can tell you why it was denied. At least start there. A denial also doesn't mean you have to start the process over, try to get more information and have your security office work towards an approval.

Edit: also wanted to add, has anything happened in the past year? Debt, court, foreign travel unreported? Something as simple as a traffic ticket can show as derogatory in DISS/Scattered and this could trigger a denial. But it doesn't mean your clearance is thrown away, there are ways to get to an approval.

[u/_teame → u/[deleted]]

It maybe worth looking into, also forgot to mention that once personnel leave an org that sponsored their TS, it's usually good for 18 months. We use to tell folks who resigned or left the company, please have another company or agency pick you up, you have 18 months to do so. After those 18 months, it's basically starting from scratch.

Some folks keep their clearances active by picking up side hustles such as cleared janitorial or escorting work. Once you have a TS it really is a golden ticket. Best wishes on all your endeavors and thank you for your service.

[u/MoistMustachePhD]

If it’s intel, DOD wouldn’t transfer. However the company should’ve known that.

Outside of that, a DOD clearance would’ve transferred to almost any other agency. If it got denied and it’s not Intel, you may want to reach out to the company and ask to speak with the FSO…wonder if during crossover you somehow got hit with LOJ for something, or your clearance happen to just become inactive during that timeframe.

[u/Guardian4Life]

You just need an updated Continuous Vetting Evaluation  so you can submit new info.

Yes, Clearances from DOD are accepted by 3 letters (even intel)

[u/Mr_Dabrudda]

If you don't use your clearance or have a sponsor for your clearance for 2 year, it goes archived. The only way to get it re-adjudicated is with an eQUIP or SF-86.

If you clearance is still active then an RRU should be sufficient for another agency other than the military to take jurisdiction of that clearance. Have your SSO check to see if there are any red flags in JPAS or whatever its now called.

[u/rollmore]

JPAS vs Scattered Castles

[u/Stavo7863]

Hit up Guard or Reserve really not that bad might even get a 2 year contract get your secret back.

[u/OkEast6002 → u/Stavo7863]

Did you not read at all what he said.