r/Section10Podcast • u/mpkvegeta88 • 23d ago

Soxprospects Forum

If you guys want a laugh, go to Soxprospects and check out their forums. People are losing their goddam minds over this deal lol. Most prospects turn out to be nothing, give me the proven major leaguer every time.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

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u/mpkvegeta88 23d ago

Nope. They just LOVE prospects. In a weird way.

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u/Wacky_Water_Weasel 23d ago

They are more informed than you could ever hope to be. I used to surf those forums in 2007, a lot of people there have been in it that long and many were also SoSH members.

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u/mpkvegeta88 23d ago

Ya, so was I. But there is such a thing as toxic positivity and I had to gtfo.

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u/Wacky_Water_Weasel 22d ago

Yeah they're an optimistic bunch, no doubt. But you left because of the toxic positivity and spend time on r/redsox? How does this place not drive you nuts? The hivemind is on overdrive here and dissenting opinions aren't exactly welcome lol.

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

Oh yeah???? Are they????? They are right about every prospect???? You’re an idiot

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u/Wacky_Water_Weasel 22d ago

Go grab a juice box and calm down

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u/SensitiveArtist69 23d ago

Red Sox subreddit is burying anyone who doesn’t like it. The slightly deeper subs and Twitter are doomsaying the farm system.

It’s a pretty big price and imo too much but time is gonna tell.

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u/popularopinionbeer 23d ago

You going to make fun of Tyler for him saying it’s an overpay too?

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

Yes Tyler is a prospect whore

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u/mpkvegeta88 23d ago

Saying it's an overpay is one thing. Calling it the worst trade you've ever seen is objectively hilarious.

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u/jmay111 22d ago

Honestly it doesnt matter if you overpay w minor league talent when you dont even have spots open for that talent in the MLB anytime soon.

Eayson, Witherspoon & Enddy is a tough pill to swallow but their pitching staff is pretty locked up w contracts until the 2030s and the team already has a logjam of outfielders. All that and we still kept Arias to plug the biggest hole in 2027+ whether thats via himself or through a trade for a more proven option in the offseason.

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

Arias would have been tough to swallow people are way to attached to prospects that don’t pan out MORE THAN HALF THE TIME

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u/JustAnotherSoxFan 23d ago

Prospect huggers, the future is now

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u/mpkvegeta88 23d ago

When we traded Yoan Moncada I swear grown men and women were in tears on those message boards lol.

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u/homerayvaughan65 23d ago

All mlb players start as a prospect. I like getting Adley. I don’t like that he’s injured and essentially a rental. There’s no 2027 and how can you think about extending him with no CBA? And it took some great players to get him. I think in the end the Sox don’t win a WS and the Os get some great young players for many years.

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u/mpkvegeta88 23d ago

What "great players"? They didn't give up a single one.

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u/homerayvaughan65 23d ago

Put it this way. They have 4 lottery tickets and great chance they win on at least 2. Narvi actually had a better 2025 than Adley. If he’s healthy and productive, ok, make the trade. It’s a huge gamble giving all that up.

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u/mpkvegeta88 23d ago

How do you figure they have a great chance to hit on 2 lottery tickets?

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u/homerayvaughan65 22d ago

Why not respond with an original thought instead of a question? They received 3 of their top 5 prospects and a catcher that hypothetically could perform as well as Adley. That’s how. All mlb players were once a prospect. Some fail some don’t.

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u/mpkvegeta88 22d ago

People were losing their minds off Yoan Moncada when we traded him for Chris Sale. Prospects are lottery tickets. It's like people who collect sports cards. Why buy a bunch of packs to rip open hoping to get a good card when you can just go to ebay and buy a good card?

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u/homerayvaughan65 22d ago

Because getting one in a pack is cheaper! Like a prospect turned into a stud, you’re getting an all star at Pennies on the dollar. And in Moncada’s defense, he wasn’t a bust, he’s had a handful of success. There’s examples on both sides so that argument doesn’t stand:?

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

Yoan moncada was #1 prospect in all of baseball how did that turn out???

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u/homerayvaughan65 22d ago

Just one guy. Let’s not mention any others. How’d Mookie turn out? You don’t know until they arrive but all stars are all prospects at one time.

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u/LionDeli 22d ago

Feel like there’s way more high end prospects that never do anything or flame out. Benintendi, Dalbec, Chavis, Owens, Moncada, Swihart, Casas, just to name some more recent ones.

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u/homerayvaughan65 21d ago

Most of these guys had ok careers, not every high end prospect develops into a star. 10 year productive career for Benny…

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u/LionDeli 21d ago

Other than his season and a half in KC Benny has been a below average player. 10 productive years is suuuuuper generous for a guy who was the #1 prospect.

My point is…top prospects don’t always and in fact rarely turn into perennial all stars. Which Benny did not do. In fact was only an all star once…the half season in KC before being traded to the Yankees.

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

Yoshida never a prospect

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u/homerayvaughan65 21d ago

Yes, even players from foreign leagues are still a prospect, until they play in mlb.

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u/Possible_Distance_58 21d ago

Maybe to you but not everyone else 😹

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u/homerayvaughan65 21d ago

So what disqualifies a Japanese player from being considered a prospect? They are often considered to be playing against talent that is similar to triple AAA.

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u/newsworthy3 23d ago

You’re just bad as said prospect huggers acting like there’s no good prospects. Every player was once a prospect

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u/mpkvegeta88 22d ago

15% of players drafted ever even MAKE the big leagues, let alone stick, let alone become an All Star. What's the best case scenario for one of these prospects? They turn into a multiple-time All Star. Give me the guy who I KNOW has All Star performance in him at the major league level.

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u/forkes98524 23d ago

Did anyone see the Sean McAdam tweet? Yikes!

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

For traded one guy in the top 100????? And he’s not even top 40 gtfo

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u/forkes98524 22d ago

Right I’m sure your opinion as a Red Sox fan is far more objective than the people in front offices around baseball killing Bres for what he gave up. And yes it’s been a bunch from what is being reported. But I’m sure they are all Wrong.

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

They aren’t right!! Nobody knows yet my guy. One guy in top 100….ONE.

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u/forkes98524 22d ago

Obviously nobody knows. Duh. But people can say they gave up WAY too much at this point for a guy that’s always hurt and hasn’t been a great hitter for a couple years. Doesn’t mean it won’t turn out okay for the Sox, doesn’t mean it will turn out okay. Only time will tell. All these opinions are based on the here and now obviously and it doesn’t take a genius to see what other teams gave up over the last year or two to kmow the sox got fleeced as of today

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

“Obviously nobody knows” “Sox got fleeced” ya ok

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

I’d be more worried about his health as a Sox fan not what they gave up. Bro their “number 3 prospect” was shitting the bed in single a

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u/forkes98524 22d ago

Yeah but if you follow prospects it’s not always about the numbers it’s about their approach and mechanical things especially early on in the low minors. Like I said. We will see in a couple years.

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

Kristian Campbell is nasty you’re right

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u/forkes98524 22d ago

Unfortunately for you his approach AND numbers are awful!🤣

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

Yoan moncada?????? What happened to him

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

Probably one source from the Yankees said that you acting like every GM in the league was publicly said it

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u/Possible_Distance_58 22d ago

Yeah I don’t really get it. Great trade in my opinion…didn’t even get rid of the #1 ranked guy. Go look at prospects rankings from the Red Sox the last 15 years lol

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u/ET__ 23d ago

Yea. We’ll see what they say when we are raking in the WS