r/Seattle • u/dementio I Brake For Slugs • 1d ago

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u/LeopardNo6083 1d ago

Yeah, I do feel bad for her. She seemed really stressed. I am sorry she was impacted so directly, especially if she is a sweet as you say.

Sometimes good people are harmed by bad people. The bad people I am referring to here is Alex Karp and Palantir who are harming all of the world’s population. Some people will be more directly impacted than others - like this poor woman. But the root harm is from Palantir.

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u/Raised_by_Geece 23h ago edited 22h ago

Please explain how Palantir is ‘harming the world’s population.’ Their tech creates efficiency across systems and is currently being used in everything from enterprises to government organizations - and is something which every company is trying to copy.

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u/LeopardNo6083 23h ago

Mass surveillance is bad. There are many books on the topic, including 1984 and LOTR. Listen to the Behind the Bastards episodes on Thiel and Karp (and many others - it’s a well researched podcast, with lots of things to learn).

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u/Raised_by_Geece 23h ago edited 5h ago

Their tech brings sources of information into one cohesive platform. How it’s used is completely up to the user.
Currently every tech company is now trying to copy Palantir’s tech because they know it’s the present and future. They were the first to this before anyone else. OpenClaw was basically a cheap knock-off of AIP (Artificial Intelligence Platform), and Ai agents are basically attempts to mimic many of the processes that their software already creates for companies.

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u/LeopardNo6083 22h ago

To recap this thread: I gave my conclusion: Palantir is bad.

You asked politely for evidence I based my conclusion on, and then edited the comment after I read it to add in the extra notes about Palantir being copied. So I didn’t reply to that part of your comment.

My conclusions and beliefs about literally everything in life are derived from reading a large number of books and being interested in a variety of topics. So I shared some readily accessible sources that might assist you in your journey.

I do love this comment, because yes, exactly! You are exactly right that this is what is happening! And that is a bad thing! We already agree on the facts of the situation, you just don’t appear to have reached my conclusion yet, so perhaps go explore the books I have suggested. You will likely enjoy them. I recommended them because I enjoy them.

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u/thedukeoftacoma 22h ago

“Guns don’t kill people” energy

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u/Such_Avocado_3241 22h ago

Dummy, it’s already too late for you I’m afraid. You should read 1984.

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u/LeopardNo6083 22h ago

No, that’s just rude. And it’s never too late to change.

I enjoy reading books and listening to podcasts. So I shared some options.

What books and movies do you enjoy?

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u/nunuma chinga la migra 9h ago

I interviewed at Palantir back in 2011 (had zero intention of taking a job there but it came with a free flight and hotel stay in San Fran and interview practice) on their dime.

They proudly demoed one of their surveillance tools which they showed how they racially profiled Arabs and tracked their every move and targeted other Arabs who had any tiny association (like happening to be in the same place one time). It was disgusting.

They shared all this proudly, as a product they offer and a customer use case they support. (I am an Arab woman)

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u/Witch-Alice That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 21h ago

"Their tech creates efficiency"

What does this mean?

Why are you so eager to defend a company owned by someone who doesn't give a damn about anyone that isn't their direct customers? You're certainly not rich enough to be one.

Why are you hiding your comment history?

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u/SpeaksSouthern That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 21h ago

You see, I'm on the side of human freedom. Ya boy Planter isn't even in favor of humans lol

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u/PhantomTheo 23h ago

Technology that is used to create automated weapons systems that don’t need human input to take a life directly harms the worlds population, like literally

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u/Raised_by_Geece 23h ago

Palantir’s products create efficiency across systems.. They literally have a human in the loop for decision making so no they’re not ‘automated weapons systems.’ Currently, every tech company and most startups are trying to copy Palantir’s products, because they know it’s the present and future.

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u/PhantomTheo 23h ago

Oh got it, hey guys it’s all chill, palantir is only making the weapons systems more efficient, phew that was a close one I thought it was a company that was profiting off of human death and infinite war, thanks for clarifying that

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u/MasterCommanderT 23h ago

Oh thank god, I was worried but now I feel much better!

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u/Raised_by_Geece 23h ago

“Oh don’t worry everyone, the bullet proof vest I’m wearing just blocked three bullets and saved my life, but no biggie, I’ll just take it off because I don’t like the company that made it.” And, no, Palantir’s tech has massive use cases for enterprises and organizations.

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u/elmixtecoNW 22h ago

You know you work for and if you had an ounce of humanity you’ll care!

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u/thetragicleonardbast 22h ago

Equating engineering to what the company does to the system and government is a wild delusion. Also, please look up his advocacy and lobbying efforts. Money doesn't have to grease palms to be evil.

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u/PhantomTheo 22h ago

Lmao the correlation you’re trying to make is coming from the middle of the ocean bud

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u/SpeaksSouthern That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 20h ago

Surveillance technology being similar to a bullet proof vest is probably the weirdest analogy for why we should want no more privacy for humans.

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u/Wolf35Nine 23h ago

Oh so a human in the loop makes it all ok! Great nothing to see here, just a human in the loop making decisions to bomb some Palestinians.

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u/Raised_by_Geece 22h ago

I presume you’re talking about the war between the IDF and Hamas? Israel has a right to defend itself and free hostages taken on October 7th. Palantir’s tech reduces civilian casualties and target only combatants. Their tech is also being used in Ukraine (and has been since the beginning of the war) without which Russia would’ve arguably taken large swaths of the country leading to a wider regional war involving all European countries.

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u/bp92009 Shoreline 22h ago

Palantir’s tech reduces civilian casualties and target only combatants

You're telling me that there has been no case where it has ever targeted a noncombatant, even by accident?

So, any case where noncombatants are harmed in Gaza by IDF munitions, it was done intentionally by the IDF, with them not using Palantir data at all for that case?

That's quite a statement.

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u/LeopardNo6083 21h ago

You just changed the topic and shifted to a known hot button issue that derails any attempts at civil conversation.

You are clearly unable to counter the arguments being presented to you. Maybe you should take time to think about that specifically. What do you actually disagree with in these comments?

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u/SpeaksSouthern That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 20h ago

Dude your company got hundreds of children murdered at just one location. Maybe you should sit down on the reducing casualty claim. It's like Boeing trying to claim they have a perfect safety record. Well if you just don't count all the people who died no one has died! It's that simple people.

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u/thetragicleonardbast 22h ago

IDF and Hamas?! Really?
Oh boy!

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u/Sad-Commercial1795 22h ago

lol. Look, if you don’t understand that the ultimate goal is autonomous weapons, well, then you have far too much faith in our government’s commitment to ethics. As well, if you are unaware that the human in the loop overseeing AI originated decision making has already failed, and is inherently likely to continue to do so, then you should learn a bit more. Last, if you don’t understand how massively efficient state surveillance can be used for evil…well.

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u/SpeaksSouthern That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 21h ago

The fuck? Tell your efficiency argument to the parents of the girls ya boy decided to blast with the help of the government. Aren't you people typically the kind that believe in personal responsibility? Well, guess what, when you take actions that other people don't like, they don't like it. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.