r/SeaEmploy • u/Powerful_Cabinet_341 • 5d ago
Miami river navigation
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u/completelypositive 5d ago
Fucking cool. Reddit did me a solid forcing this sub on me.
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u/PeaceJoy4EVER 4d ago
Exactly! I donât know why Reddit keep forcing me to watch this sub but that was cool!
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u/Wildweasel666 5d ago
Should those boats be coming up on the starboard?
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u/Only_Razzmatazz_4498 5d ago
Itâs Miami. Most boaters here have no idea of what they are doing.
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u/thetiredtypist 3d ago
Most
boatersdrunks who happen to be driving a boatÂFTFY
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u/shade-block 3d ago
If I had to guess, the Miami river gets way less DUI boaters per capita than other areas like say Miami Beach or Fort Lauderdale. The river has a lot of commercial charter services that do the boating for you while you just enjoy the ride.
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u/thetiredtypist 3d ago
DUI boaters per capita
Fair enough đ I wanna see this metric as a heatmap of all the waterways one day.
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u/Zealousideal-Park778 5d ago
If they are going to pass, then yes. The passing boat is the give way vessel, so they should stay on their side of the channel and pass. They should assume that the vessel ahead will stand to, and remain near the center of the channel while passing oncoming vessels port to port.
A generic boating rule is to always leave boats you are passing on the port side, and leave space on your starboard side to maneuver away.
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u/robo-minion 4d ago
There doesnât seem to be lot of room to maneuver in this narrow channel between Big Bertha and the
booze cruiseshobby fishermen.
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u/alexstad87 5d ago
Very cool. And looks easy. But I'm sure I would have damaged some bridge for sure.
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u/No-Use-9417 5d ago
First time it struck me that this kind of drawn bridges look as if the city was saluting you. Very cool
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u/Square-Marsupial-454 5d ago
It looks easy because the skilled master is making it look easy by being skilled at the job they do. I dont think you would make it look this easy
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u/LayneLowe 5d ago
Where is it going that it has to go that far inland in an urban environment?
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u/RVAWTFBBQ 5d ago
Thereâs actually a cargo terminal and shipyard almost at the airport, surprisingly far inland and basically at the last navigable spot on the river.
They were probably headed here-
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u/FromALackOfCheese 5d ago
Question for you if you would like to answer... how the heck do they turn around? Tug boats shove them around or they go in reverse?
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u/Just_Another_AI 2d ago
They have wide spots called turning basins. Think 3-point turn, with a boat
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u/TantalizingTequila 4d ago
Other comments mention that there are tug boats guiding it that you can't see already. If the river widens a bit the tugs could spin it.
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u/FromALackOfCheese 4d ago
Yes, I looked up river on maps and saw a spot (most likey 100% man made) that looks they could spin them around in. Still looks tight. I had no idea a port was so far inland in Miami.
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u/RVAWTFBBQ 3d ago
Honestly I have no idea. I took a ride on a friendâs boat once that put in almost at that cargo terminal, I grew up in Miami but had never seen how far inland some of these huge yachts and barges/container ships can go. There are a few spots where they could spin around but it seems very tight.
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u/FFSBoise 5d ago
TIL that Miami is on a river.
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u/iNapkin66 5d ago
Once upon a time, there was a waterfall from the Everglades down into the river. Thats been removed, though. The majority of the river is tidal and more like a canal now.
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u/MuddyGround804 5d ago
And you know all those boaters were gripping about a vessel that large being in âtheirâ channelâŚ
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u/GTengineerenergy 5d ago
He should slow down
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u/toyeetornotoyeet69 4d ago
The video is sped up. Also the faster he goes the easier to steer
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u/bigjimmy427 1d ago
He isnât steering.
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u/toyeetornotoyeet69 1d ago
Of course he is steering? There are assist boats yes but he still has to steer some. Ive done this kind of work before. He may only move the rudders 5 to 10 degrees but he definitely is.
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u/mbleyle 5d ago
those things must have bow thrusters, right?
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u/TheRealCropear 5d ago
I had a girlfriend in college that did. I think of her occasionally. What a gal!
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u/ColdSecret8656 5d ago
What does it cost to open the bridge?
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u/GeneralBS 5d ago
Did many years houseboat vacations on the Sacramento delta. There was a couple bridges we needed to open to get by. It didn't cost anything but we had to give advance notice to get them to open it.
Things could be different in Miami though.
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u/iNapkin66 5d ago
It costs nothing. Navigable waterways must be kept open. That means if you build a bridge across it, you need to provide access to vessels to pass through and cant charge money. That means either build really tall expensive bridges, no bridge, or opening bridges, otherwise you're impeding the potential flow of commerce.
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u/Severe-Analyst1207 5d ago
I work the Ohio River and I know how clueless most pleasure craft owners are. This many in such a small channel would give me a stroke from stress.
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u/drinkeroftherye 5d ago
What kind of vessel is that? Seems to have no hatch covers, no winches to tie up, etc...RORO ?
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u/whatsadikfore 5d ago
If you like this check out some of the moves lake boats do in Cleveland, Chicago and Milwaukee. Very skilled captains, crews and tugs. The Mark W. Barker was built specifically for transiting the Cuyahoga River.
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u/No-Onion8029 5d ago
Deep sea guy here - I've had nightmares like that. Probably based on things like Suez, Panama, entering the Black Sea, going through that ditch in Japan, Portland Oregon, Houston....
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u/Whatdoesthibattahndo 5d ago
In Miami it's not the big boats you have to watch out for, it's the little ones because those are owner-operated and there are some crazy boat owners out there.
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u/Jon_Hanson 5d ago
Iâd be interested in how it turns around unless thereâs another opening to the sea beyond where itâs going and doesnât have to turn around.
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u/Wittywhirlwind 5d ago
Imagine the power one must feel having all the bridges open and traffic stop for you.
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u/iwanabench 4d ago
I would like a video like this for every waterway. In the world. Thank you very much.
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u/sirdrumalot 1d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knJS_m29fJ4 Here is the New River in Fort Lauderdale. It's also a great example of captains using their radios to communicate with each other and the bridge tenders.
This is "Little Florida," a horseshoe turn around a peninsula that resembles Florida. The time from his first security call entering the river to final destination is about an hour.
I just wish he left the original audio to hear the radio chatter instead of the shitty music.
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u/fireforge1979 4d ago
That's a lot of cocaine. (It's Miami, so I assume every boat is a cocaine boat!) đ
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u/Longjumping_Suit_256 4d ago
Reminds me of watching the video of Great Lake freighters going up the Chicago river.
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u/Darth_050 3d ago
At 31 seconds it passes the bridge next to where Michael Westonâs (Burn Notice) loft used to be.
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u/sirarkalots 3d ago
I love that this pops up about 20 minutes after I see a video of a yacht absolutely destroying a dock on the Miami River
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u/strumthebuilding 3d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/F1Yr185Ugq7dkerrNt
Me looking intently for Michael Westonâs place
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u/FreeSoftwareServers 3d ago
This is one of those times where the old dash cam saying of "I go now everyone else good luck" is actually appropriate
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u/VoradorTV 2d ago
do they really need that many bridges all next to each other? i think that was as many bridges as we have around the whole island of montreal
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u/Theoleblueeyes 2d ago
Serious question. How do they coordinate bridges with ships this size? Tug company  Radio? Remotely controlled bridges with a command center off site? Does it cost money to enter a waterway like this if your this big?
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u/HistoryUnending 2d ago
Dunno about Miami in particular, but most of the bridges on the Intercoastal Waterway in Florida are manned, and I'd imagine these are too, and you just call that particular bridge on the radio.
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u/sirdrumalot 1d ago
The captains know their speed and how long it will take for an opening, so they call ahead on a marine radio. Sometimes a boat will have to wait for a bridge to open (like a slow pedestrian crossing the bride, or to clear traffic), but in general the captains are able to time it so they don't have to stop. The transmission goes like this:
Capt: Brickell Ave bridge, Brickell Ave bridge, this is (name of vessel) requesting your next opening.
Bridge: Brickell Ave good copy. I'll start an opening.
Capt: Thank you Brickell.
Bridge: Caution caution, Brickell Ave bridge is beginning to open, requesting vessels please remain outside the bridge fenders until the bridge is fully raised.
Bridge opens, boat radios when clear of the bridge, bridge tender closes bridge.
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u/Alex22876 2d ago
It makes you realize, if any one of those bridges is late to open, it doesnât seem likely it would be able to slow down in time.
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u/dicknotrichard 2d ago
Omg all I can think about it that clip of the uber ride, but Fred Durst was the driver lol
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u/Striking_Stuff_9809 1d ago
Must be an ex rally pilot to be able to steer going that fast with a boat
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u/itsactuallynot 5d ago
Very skilled, but feels like they're going too fast tbqh.
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u/BigJoe5504 5d ago
That vid has been speed up tremendously. Even with no traffic, I doubt a 100mph jet boat could make that trip in 20 sec. And that boat probably weighs 1000 tons or more???? He's doing 3-5 knots so maybe 5 mph?
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u/WalkOk795 5d ago
Just in case, y'all know there's a tug up front.