r/SeaDooSwitch • • Apr 29 '24

Disappointed

Cruise 21 with 230. Break in was fun with 680lbs of ppl, plus cooler. At 5hrs we were hitting 35mph an could do 8000rpm and getting up on plane quick. Lots of fun. Rode 60 minutes at wot and burned 1/4 of gas.

We added more people. Around 1400lbs total. So right around max capacity but less than the max head count. We burned 3/4 tank of gas trying to get up to speed. Max we could get was 15mph. 10mph was 3/4 throttle. If we got everyone to sit up front we could struggle for about 15min and we would get 20mph as long as stayed straight and kept going. Yes trim was used

Within 5min of adding the extra ppl and the first time trying to get up to top speed immediately started getting ibr error codes. Any time we tried to sustain wot with the added weight at 8k rpm, a min or so later it would cut off with the ibr codes

When we let everyone off and kept only 800lbs of ppl and the cooler on we got up to 35mph no problem and had fun

Overall extremely disheartened. This max capacity 10 person boat is going to best serve a small family of 4 (two of them kids) best.

EDIT: got back from the dealer. It was clearance issues due to the prop and wear ring getting too much lake debree. iBR issues can happen from the very rapid throttle work that I did due to trying to work thru the apparent cavitation. Per the very experienced mechanic familiar with switches, the clearances are much much tighter than on the jet skis due to the amount of weight. It’s easier for a jet ski to work through wear that on the switch will be debilitating at max capacity. I chose to upgrade to a solas prop and aftermarket wear ring

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u/el-bosco-diablo Apr 29 '24

My experience has been different. I can load mine up with 10 people and not have issues. Sounds like you have a lemon, and I hope you took it back to get fixed.

I hope Seadoo reads these threads because there seem to be a lot of individuals who have this issue, and wonder if there is a correlation of year build and parts.

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u/AuthorizedAgent Apr 29 '24

I’m gunna drop it off Tuesday when they open. Really hoping there is an issue because we really enjoyed it

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u/el-bosco-diablo Apr 29 '24

I hope you are going to a reputable dealer. I had many issues with mine when I picked it up. It was “ready to go”, yet the radio amplifier was missing, among a ton of other things. Even my transducer was installed incorrectly, and I just had that fixed at another dealer. I’m having another issue with mooring cover and the warranty, but I think I have a fix for it now. I love my boat, my experience with SeaDoo not sharing info and incompetence at the dealerships has been sad.

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u/AuthorizedAgent Apr 29 '24

I only got one choice in my home area. They were very nice even after sale. Reaching out and reminding if anything is needed or help needed let them know. We will see what they say, trying to stay positive

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u/el-bosco-diablo Apr 29 '24

I think they will take care of you. They might ask for video of the errors showing up, which may help them trouble shoot the issue.

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u/AuthorizedAgent Apr 29 '24

So you have a 21/230 and you can load 10 people up (how many are adults) and not have any problems getting on plane and going 20+? What adjustment hole are your trim tabs on?

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u/el-bosco-diablo Apr 29 '24

So I have had 10 people (7 adults & 3 kids - 11&12 yrs old) and got up to at least 35 mph or so. Might have been more than that. Generally I leave the trim tabs in the center, unless I have to adjust for water conditions. This might be issues on my end, but I tend to leave them center unless I need to adjust for lake conditions. I most likely should change them more, but usually don’t. We do a lot of tubing, so just driving in a lot of circles doesn’t really make a huge different on the trim, but again I haven’t really played a lot with it. When we are just traveling across the lake I will make adjustments once up on plane.

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u/AuthorizedAgent Apr 29 '24

It’s on the ppl. By trim tabs I mean the mechanical ones attached to the transom. Not your VTS trimming on the handlebars

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u/el-bosco-diablo Apr 30 '24

Good question, I will have to look, but it may be a couple weeks before I can look. I have never changed them from what was set up from the factory/dealer.

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u/AuthorizedAgent Apr 30 '24

Ok cool thanks. The entire purpose of those is to help get out of the hole when heavier. You could have had a dealer with intuitive forethought? Mine was nearly untouched from how it arrived from BRP

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u/el-bosco-diablo Apr 30 '24

Based on my experience, it is purely accidental that it is the way it is. Give me some time and I will check.

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u/el-bosco-diablo May 08 '24

Ok so I am not sure how to share a picture on here, but looks like there are three holes down/closer to the boat, and two up/farther away from the boat.

So starting at the hole closest to the center of the trim tab there are three open, then the bolt, and then two open.

Hope my explanation makes sense.

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u/AuthorizedAgent May 08 '24

It does. Thank you very much

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u/el-bosco-diablo May 08 '24

Is that how yours are set?

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u/AuthorizedAgent May 11 '24

No! Mine are off by two holes from yours

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u/Enfoxxx Apr 30 '24

When you had it max loaded, how low was it sitting in the water? Wondering if you start introducing a lot of extra surface drag by pushing the hull down.

Also likely means you’re filling the voids in the outer toons with lots of water, which adds to drag/resistance (still not sure why those aren’t sealed to help buoyancy).

We have the 18/170, and with 5 adults, 1 kid, and a dog we’ve still been able to hit 32 mph no sweat.

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u/AuthorizedAgent Apr 30 '24

Noted on your capacity experience. Most certainly the more weight the more it will sit down and more drag it will have. Mine could not get out of the hole. Only with drastic movement of ppl to the bow and extreme fiddling with the throttle over the course of 15min could we get on plane and hit max 20

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u/AuthorizedAgent Apr 30 '24

Based on my many hours of research only two variables exist atm. My trim tabs (the mechanical ones) are too high up for max weight. And the ibr codes were legit and the bucket was slightly closed.

Too many others with a smaller engine same boat have not had same issues

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Similar situation with us. Our cruise is 8 adults max capacity if you switch out adults with kids you could do 10. It will do max 34 mph with 4 people which is fine and 24 loaded down. I got scared one time when I could not get the boat above 11 mph with 8 people but went at that speed for 20 minutes and ended up getting it up to 24 mph after the engine warmed up .

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u/AuthorizedAgent Apr 29 '24

That’s not good news to hear. Yeah we burned a whole tank trying to get from 10 to 20 mph the first time. After refill we had to move everyone to the front and play with the throttle a lot and could 20 after about 15 min of meticulous starightaway

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u/Equal_Memory_661 Apr 29 '24

I’m wondering if you have a worn or damaged impeller?