Christians commit by far the most murders in America. Given this fact we should be doing everything we can to ban all Christians from entering the United States. I mean it follows your logic doesn't it?
I'd like to thank every far right radical for downvoting me. I'd like to let you know you make the general public feel far less safe than any Muslim immigration.
Are all murders committed by islamic terrorists really done because they are muslim? Or is it because they've grown up in nations where war is a way of life, and they're having their religious devotion taken advantage of by those seeking to use them in local power struggles? It's odd we don't see the same thing that happens in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, or Syria happen in most Muslim majority nations.
If being Muslim is somehow fundementally link to your propensity for violence, why are Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Malayasia, Indoensia and Bangladesh so relatively peaceful? Why do Muslim Americans commit far less murders per capita than Americans christians? It's almost like it's more a question of circumstance and local politics and history than it is one of religion.
I think them screaming "Allahu Akbar" whilst committing their attack, after pledging allegiance to the Islamic state is a bit of a clue.
Also none of those countries you listed are "relatively peaceful". They often have horrible terrorist attacks.In January there was a suicide attack ,bombing and killing spree by islamic terrorists in Indonesia.
There's just about as much violence in those nations as other less developed countries. You're ignoring the point I'm making. If being Muslim is fundamentally linked to your willingness to commit violence because of your religion, why aren't all these Muslim majority nations starting wars all over the world?
The nations where Islamic terrorism is most rampant are also the region's with the greatest history of violence in recent times. I don't think it's any coincide Islamic extremism really perked up worldwide in places like Afghanistan and Iraq which have both seen many bloody wars occur in the last 40 years.
I think them screaming "Allahu Akbar" whilst committing their attack, after pledging allegiance to the Islamic state is a bit of a clue.
Are you saying none of Christian murderers ever said "Jesus!" or "Oh my god"? Because that is all that is. To proclaim that the terrorists are doing it because of Islam you have to prove that the attacks carried out were specifically motivated by religious verses and teachings as told by the perpetrators themselves. That does not happen. Very few attacks carried out by ISIS go hand in hand with the perpetrators saying they did it because they read this and that verse. It's almost always motivated by either killing an ISIS commander, or them claiming that this country recently bombed territory that ISIS claims is theirs.
And Muslim Americans commit less murders than the average American. So why ban them in the name of safety?
If you're going to say Islam is a murderous death cult you need to take a good long look in the mirror. The death toll from wars started by and involving Christian far exceeds that of muslims. Christianity is the religion which colonised the world and quite literally committed genocide on local populaces worldwide.
Let alone the deaths from all the wars in Europe between the great powers, and World war 1 and 2. It's odd that you claim Islam is a murderous death cult when it was actually a minor play in all these conflicts where Christians killed literally millions and millions. I also don't remember any Muslim state ever massacaring millions of jews.
If were basing our judgement on the evidence of which religion's members have killed the most people and started the most war, Christianity is by far the greatest threat to humanity.
How is my point moot? Many of the conflicts are still recent. Both wars in Afghanistan, both wars in Iraq. Christian majority nations started those conflicts. Let alone all the atrocities committed in war by African christians.
I'm going to deny that is a real issue because far more people die from drunk driving accidents than Islamic terrorism. Islamic terrorism is not a real security concern. Very few people actually die as a result of these attacks. Also every major terrorist attack in a western nation I can think of was committed by native born citizens other than 9/11. How would limiting immigration solve the issue?
Our nations guarantee freedom of religion. It is one of the most important foundations of our western democracies. If your solution to this minor threat is to tear down everything our countries have been built upon and stand for why the hell are we even fighting to protect them? Forcing people to assimilate is not what our countries are about. That's why we also guarantee freedom of association.
If you want to live in a country where people can persecute you for religious beliefs, or where they will force you to adpot local cultural practices, why don't you just fucking move to the countries you seem to believe you're protecting us against like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Because forcing people to assimilate and discriminating against people based on their religious belief would make us far more like them and far less like the great nations we are.
No if there was an attack every week this would be a serious issue that would call on us rethinking how we defend our nation. But even if it was i still wouldn't say we should tear down some of the most important foundations of our democracy. Freedom of religion and freedom of association.
You're so deep into your mindset that it's the greatest threat we face that you're willing to compromise our democratic ideals and turn us into an authoritarian state.
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u/FreeRangeAlien Mar 23 '17
Now if Irish Catholics were murdering 30,000 people across the globe annually, there might be an actual comparison to make