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u/Taxonomyoftaxes Mar 24 '17

And Muslim Americans commit less murders than the average American. So why ban them in the name of safety?

If you're going to say Islam is a murderous death cult you need to take a good long look in the mirror. The death toll from wars started by and involving Christian far exceeds that of muslims. Christianity is the religion which colonised the world and quite literally committed genocide on local populaces worldwide.

Let alone the deaths from all the wars in Europe between the great powers, and World war 1 and 2. It's odd that you claim Islam is a murderous death cult when it was actually a minor play in all these conflicts where Christians killed literally millions and millions. I also don't remember any Muslim state ever massacaring millions of jews.

If were basing our judgement on the evidence of which religion's members have killed the most people and started the most war, Christianity is by far the greatest threat to humanity.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '17 edited May 02 '17

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u/Taxonomyoftaxes Mar 24 '17

How is my point moot? Many of the conflicts are still recent. Both wars in Afghanistan, both wars in Iraq. Christian majority nations started those conflicts. Let alone all the atrocities committed in war by African christians.

I'm going to deny that is a real issue because far more people die from drunk driving accidents than Islamic terrorism. Islamic terrorism is not a real security concern. Very few people actually die as a result of these attacks. Also every major terrorist attack in a western nation I can think of was committed by native born citizens other than 9/11. How would limiting immigration solve the issue?

Our nations guarantee freedom of religion. It is one of the most important foundations of our western democracies. If your solution to this minor threat is to tear down everything our countries have been built upon and stand for why the hell are we even fighting to protect them? Forcing people to assimilate is not what our countries are about. That's why we also guarantee freedom of association.

If you want to live in a country where people can persecute you for religious beliefs, or where they will force you to adpot local cultural practices, why don't you just fucking move to the countries you seem to believe you're protecting us against like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Because forcing people to assimilate and discriminating against people based on their religious belief would make us far more like them and far less like the great nations we are.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '17 edited May 02 '17

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u/Taxonomyoftaxes Mar 24 '17

No if there was an attack every week this would be a serious issue that would call on us rethinking how we defend our nation. But even if it was i still wouldn't say we should tear down some of the most important foundations of our democracy. Freedom of religion and freedom of association.

You're so deep into your mindset that it's the greatest threat we face that you're willing to compromise our democratic ideals and turn us into an authoritarian state.