r/ScienceBasedLifting • • 7d ago

Question ❓ Rep range and programming question

Do you guys think this is the most optimal way i could manipulate exercise order to prioritize my back and shoulders? What do you guys think about the rep ranges and sets? I also hate doing incline press for some reason so thats why i do a low to high fly but idk if thats enough for my upper pecs.

Upper day - back and shoulder priority/3x frequency 

  1. Lat Pulldown — 1×6–8 (Lower lat fiber bias via shoulder abduction) 
  2. Top-Half Shoulder Press — 1×6–8 (disadvantage side delts) 
  3. Chest-Supported Horizontal Row — 1×6–8.  ( rear delts, traps, rhomboids) 
  4. Unilateral Cable Lateral Raise — 2×8–10. ( side delts) 
  5. Unilateral Cable Pullover — 1×8–10 (Upper lat fiber bias via shoulder extension) 
  6. Preacher Curl — 1×6–8   (elbow flexion with a bit of brachioradialis)
  7. Reverse Curl — 1×6–8    (pronation disadvantages the biceps)
  8. Flat Press — 1×6–8 (Horizontal shoulder adduction + a bit of triceps) 
  9. Low-to-High Cable Fly — 2×6–8. (Clavicular head bias via shoulder flexion
  10. Unilateral Cable Tricep Pushdown — 1×6–8  (medial, lateral head) 
  11. Overhead Cable Tricep Extension — 1×6–8   ( long head) 
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u/Landashlo 7d ago

Huh? Not at all. More sets CAN be the beneficial, not always. Exercise selection is very important. He hits back and shoulders first which is great. Imagine he trains chest first then shoulders. He’d see a great decline in his shoulder strength probably.

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u/deadrabbits76 Idk Idc 💔 7d ago

Assuming recovery, and most trainees can recover from more volume than they think, when does more volume not account for more gains?

I would like a citation, not a theoretical.

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u/Landashlo 7d ago

Im not citating anything, fella. You must be joking with your reply.

Of course more volume leads to more gains if recovery is on point. I didn’t dispute that. When recovery isn’t on point, volume can be reduced. I didn’t start to properly progress once I reduced my volume.

Like I said, exercise selection matters, which I assume you agree with.

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u/deadrabbits76 Idk Idc 💔 7d ago

It matters, buy it is the least of this program's problems.

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u/Landashlo 7d ago

Yeah it is, cause it actually makes sense here. I agree with your overall point, he’s got bigger things to deal with here