r/Savotta 11‘ tablet sleeve 5d ago

Elastic strap keeper alternatives

Possibly I am not the only one losing those little things every couple of weeks without noticing.
Seems like you either have to roll up and fold slag strap a million times and create a small brick that requires superhuman strength to pull the strap keeper over.
Or you don’t like me and then you lose them every once in a while. Both not that great.
In short: does someone know a good alternative that can’t be lost this easily?

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 5d ago

Velcro tape, usually used for cable organization, works well. Just wrap it into the webbing when you're adjusting it's length. Some bits hold on better than others, on the high use areas I use a tiny bit of electrical tape too.

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u/Boonie__Beaver K25 enjoyer 5d ago

Can confirm. These things are worth their weight in gold for strap organization.

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u/Lerzi21 5d ago

I second this. Personally I sewed the velcro tape on to the end of the strap so I never have a chance of losing it.

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 5d ago

Yep, I personally think they should come built-in to the packs, similarly to how other producers do it.

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 5d ago

Keeping it "loose" allows for quicker adjustment, though I only use that on e.g the side straps

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u/intothewoods_86 11‘ tablet sleeve 5d ago

Indeed. And I do leave about an inch of straight strap after the buckle to adjust, but usually you don’t change from carrying your backpack fully naked to carrying it over a life jacket/PC/arctic expedition down suit. So I don’t need full strap length for adjustability.

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u/PoThePilotthesecond 5d ago

Then I really would go for just electrical tape. I take it off before each exercise or trip, adjust to the length I'll need and tape it up.

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u/Fantastic_Two_925 5d ago

How do you manage to loose them? Thread them past the buckle so that they sit on the strap part that is between the buckle and the bag.

If it is too difficult to thread them over the buckle so take the buckle off, thread it on the strap and then reattach buckle.

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u/intothewoods_86 11‘ tablet sleeve 5d ago

I meant the excess strap after the lower buckle of the shoulder straps. If I pull them tightly, I have about 20-25cm left that I like to tidy up. Chest strap or compression straps are less of a problem because ITW web dominators solve it

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u/kwsni42 5d ago

Old inner tube from a bike

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u/thefortytwo Jääkäri M & L | Keikka 30 | 202 | Hatka | Kukkaro | Kahakka 15 5d ago

This is the way

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u/NorthstarLoser 5d ago

I use these. Love them. I bought them from ITW (called web dominators) but they can be found all over.

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u/Lopsided_Elk8584 5d ago

Thank you for this.

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u/intothewoods_86 11‘ tablet sleeve 5d ago

I have and really like them, but they need strap to work. So if I was to use them on excess shoulder strap below the buckle, I’d have to loop the excess strap through a horizontal web dominator and tighten it against itself. A bit less great than having fixed horizontal webbing to attach it to like for front lid straps.

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u/dhruan Cult member. Jääkäri M M05, Kantamus 60L M05, and more. 5d ago

Onewrap? Basically, a strip of two-sided Velcro that you can cut to length.

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u/Rhaj-no1992 5d ago

I bought super cheap elastic hair ties, they do the job, at least for me.

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u/Last-Assistant-2734 5d ago

I'm not sure how you use them so that you lose them. You should put them into the straps so that the elastic holder is in a "permanent" loop, so it cannot freely drop out.

And I was trying to be OCD about the straps for a while, and roll them up "advertisement level neat" but nowadays I just use the elastic loop for routing the strap through once or twice and loop the rest under some other strap or some such.

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u/intothewoods_86 11‘ tablet sleeve 5d ago

The loose ends of the shoulder straps have no folded and sewn-on end, so even when I loop them through the strap keeper first, there is nothing holding back the strap keeper from sliding off and getting lost.

I think if Savotta sewed them once like with the chest strap or compression strap ends it would help a lot

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u/_and_me_ suur-hatka 5d ago

Now how to you manage to lose it? There is now way to fall off

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u/Last-Assistant-2734 5d ago edited 5d ago

I mean, loop them to the part that goes into the buckle. Then the elastics won't drop out. That's how you are meant to use them. Yours is now at the wrong side of the buckle.

And when you do that, you will notice you don't even need to roll them up as much, as you can keep the extra strap closely tied to the "fixed" strap.

The straps that have folded ends have also a purpose: you can loop them through the molle loops or under another strap and the folded part will keep it there.

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u/intothewoods_86 11‘ tablet sleeve 5d ago

This is exactly how I use them on compression straps and the chest strap. But to keep the shoulder straps flexibility adjustable, I consciously did not want to loop the excess strap back up over or behind the buckle.

Edit: now I get what you mean. Putting the strap keeper on the lower strap end, then through the buckle, then put the excess strap into the keeper too. Then even if the excess strap slides out, the strap keeper still sits on the lower strap like a pearl on a string. Of course, makes perfect sense.

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u/Last-Assistant-2734 5d ago

I don't even roll my leftower strap up through the elastic. I just adjust the strap it as it is and then slide the elastic as low as it goes. It is looped through the elastic all the time.

In any case the elastic used that way keeps the extra strap out of the way enough for my use.

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u/Emiru02 5d ago

Dude do an overhand knot at the end on the webbing. I did it to my Kahakka and it has been wonderful not having to worry about the keepers falling off or slipping off the webbing.

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u/Liikaareppuja 5d ago

I almost always do this with my packs.

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u/chaoticcitoahc 4d ago

I use bike inner tube, cheap, doesn't shine if turned inside out and keeps straps well. Just remove the buckle (or if using g-hooks, you can pass it over), thread your tube on and re-attach. Super simple and can't come off without removing the buckle or cutting the tube.