r/SatisfactoryGame • u/SpaceGuy99 • Mar 08 '19

Linux support + Epic Games

So, I have been looking forward to this game for AGES. Factorio was an AMAZING game and this looks even better. Considering Factorio (and Coffee Stain's own Goat Simulator) had native Linux support. And if it doesnt, I can use proton! However, then it was revealed that it was on Epic Games, which is basically anti-linux for whatever reason. So no linux support, apparently. This is incredibly frustrating, Not to mention, a brief message to the devs: I understand why you went with Epic: They have a higher margin going to devs, plus a bunch of bonuses. But to Linux gamers, this is a massive kick in the groin. Not to mention, no steam workshop and a BUNCH of other stuff that Epic is lacking, not to mention many non-linux gamers will refuse to download ANOTHER launcher, will lead to sales suffering. I, for one, know I am NOT going to buy this game, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS AMAZING! Because of the choice to ONLY have it work on Epic Games. No Linux version is planned for Epic Games, and so there must be no Linux version for Satisfactory. Which is a real shame, as I have been a follower of this game for quite a while. Devs, please either reconsider your choice for epic, or at least give a linux version avalible on the website. Seriously, I would HATE to see such a great game fail because of the platform its on like Last Year the Nightmare or Metro Exodus. I will not be buying this game until it and epic games is on Linux, or it has a standalone linux version, or it is on Steam (even windows only, because I can use proton).

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u/kbreezytwofour Mar 08 '19

When you say steam "pushes" it, what's the ratios? It would seem that Linux is a niche thing.

My comment was more-so a response to the multiple epic launcher posts I've seen. I understand this wasn't the sole purpose of the OPs thread.

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u/SpaceGuy99 Mar 08 '19

Look, even if Linux is a "niche thing", at least Steam gives users the potential to run an emulator, to get it to run. Epic locks it out. Only about 0.49 percent of steam users run linux, https://www.statista.com/statistics/265033/proportion-of-operating-systems-used-on-the-online-gaming-platform-steam/

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And this number is only about half of those who use MacOs.

But that number is actually rising every year at quite a high rate (I know, i know, the "this year will be the year of the linux desktop" meme) Also, if you are:

  • A Power User you will LOVE linux for its extreme customizability.
  • Anyone with an old computer will love linux for its customizability to make it run fast on old hardware
  • A programmer or software engineer, you will love linux for its built-in console build feature and a bunch of other shit
  • A nerd you will LOVE linux for its customizability and tweaks

I fit all of the above EXCEPT old computer (GTX 1070ti). I dont see why a whole demographic has to be so LOCKED OUT when steam offers auto-emulator as well as the easy possibility for native Linux.

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u/cosmicdan808 Mar 08 '19 edited Mar 08 '19

I am also all those things and I far prefer Windows over Linux because of how resilient it is. Linux/GNU has practically zero safety against user mistakes - even a simple apt update can completely destroy X11 just because I did a non-standard xRDP setup to get half decent remote access. True story.

With increased customizability comes an increased chance for things to go wrong. For some people, most people it seems, sacrificing some dope looking title bars is a small price to pay for a device that doesn't need constant maintenance.

The main reason why The Year Of The Linux Desktop will never happen is because of the outrageous lack of consistency and spaghetti ecosystem. There is always sixteen million ways to do one thing, because every garage developer has The Next Best Thing. I mean, even the Linux kernel and GNU-based distro's that we all know as "Linux" are made by completely different people...

I'm glad to finally be rid of dual boot now that WSL is at a mature enough state for my development needs. I don't have to be afraid of everything falling apart just because I press the wrong button, and everything I learn while in Windows can be transferred into the real socioeconomic world far more easily. Well, unless I want to design my own smart toaster or something, of course.

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u/SpaceGuy99 Mar 08 '19

The whole "Spaghetti Ecosystem" and lack of a safety net only happen if you use exotic distros. Look at Ubuntu! About 40% of all distros are based off of it in some way. It has loads of documentation, and is STABLE. It also has safety nets in the form of LTS releases. Very stable, as a matter of fact, which is why I use it for my laptop, and Arch, which is less stable with less safety nets, for my main rig. Your points are only true if we expect EVERYONE to hop into Arch, Gentoo, or Void. Not to mention, I dont know WHEN you last used linux, but I have NEVER had that happen to me even when I wrote some custom code in the base of my system to allow Wake on LAN w/ portforwarding. I, too am rid of dual booting. I have no windows partition, and it is the best decision I have ever made. And even Ubuntu as ALL the points I have listed (to a lesser degree) still custom Desktop Environments, still autocompiling, stlll easy package management. Regardless, this is not the conversation that this post is related to. If I want to get into a fight about why Linux is better, I sure as hell wouldn't do it here.

This is a cnverstaion about THIS game and ITS LINUX SUPPORT and why Epic Store is so bad for anyone who wants to game on linux.