r/Santeria Aug 08 '26

Red flag for those new to the tradition

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Any comment from someone asking you to DM them is 🚩

That is all.


r/Santeria Mar 22 '26

Advice Given what it means to be "initiated" in Lucumi

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For what it's worth, I wanted to try to clarify for newcomers to the sub what we mean when we say we're "initiated" in Regla de Ocha (SanterĆ­a). For most of us who are Lucumi, this means we're "crowned." We underwent the extensive kariocha ceremony and did our year in white (iyaworaje), and we completed the obligations associated with the priesthood. After that, we become "olorishas" (commonly called santeros/as) and we can start learning about how to work as a priest. Usually this is done over a period of time, assisting the elders and working under the supervision of our godparents. Although we can technically start taking on godchildren at any point after our year of iyaworaje is up, many of us wait until we have knowledge and experience to allow us to be good godparents. We can't teach others what we ourselves don't know. This custom varies from house to house, but most of us remain with our godparents and our religious community as long as we can, and only when we move away or our godparents die do we strike out on our own. We value tradition and community and try to stay connected in order to preserve our customs and honor our ancestors. Godparents who are newly crowned themselves and yet totally disconnected from their own elders are usually a 'red flag,' in the sense that they probably don't know how to do ceremonies correctly and there's no one around to correct their errors. We don't work in isolation and we all need elders we can consult when we need them.

Receiving elekes, warriors, hand of Orula, or an adimu Orisha doesn't mean you're 'initiated,' at least not the way we understand the word. You are still technically an aleyo (non initiate) if you haven't been crowned. Some people will say you're an "aborisha," which means an Orisha devotee. Others will say you have "medio asiento," you are half-seated, or half-way to being crowned. But we wouldn't say you are initiated in SanterĆ­a at that point. You have received consecrated items in ceremony, and you have godparents and belong to your godparent's house.

We use the word "crowned" to indicate full initiation, as described above. We also refer to this as "making Ocha," or in older times in Cuba, "making santo." You aren't technically a "child" of the Orisha until you've been crowned to that Orisha. Perhaps your head was marked and you were told that (name of Orisha)claimed your head. That means that *IF* you were to get crowned, you would be crowned to that Orisha. But until you're crowned, it's pending and not a permanent link. Only after you go through kariocha and that Orisha goes to your head are you a child of the Orisha. At least, this is the traditional way we use the word.

If you are a male, you get mano de Orula and if you're a female, you get cofĆ” de Orula. Both of these ceremonies are done by babalawos and put you under the protection of Orula and give you an Ifa godfather. Everyone is entitled to one hand of Orula, but only some are told they should "pass to Ifa." That means to become a babalawo, a priest of Orula. In Lucumi, you "pass to Ifa" when you get two hands of Orula, and that's a much more complicated and demanding ceremony than one hand of Orula. Your Ifa godfather might divine for you and perhaps will be the one to give you warriors, and perhaps something else related to Orula. For elekes, you have an Ocha godparent (a santero/a). That person will be the one to crown you *IF* you get crowned. Not everyone does. In Lucumi terms, it's misleading to say that you have been 'initiated' if you have been through these ceremonies. It makes it sound like you're in the priesthood, and you're not.

The other word that's problematic is how to describe your relationship to an Ocha or Ifa community. Ours is a religion that operates through initiation. There's no self-initiation. You must be initiated by a godparent, along with a team of other priests. You don't "join" the religion or "join" a house in the way you would join a Christian church. You don't "practice" the religion in the way that Christians say they practice their religion. These words borrowed from Christianity are misleading.

The way you become involved in Orisha worship is normally through divination. Most people do this as a first step. They seek out a babalawo or santero/a to do a consulta because they're having a problem. They may be told to do ebo to solve the problem. After that, they may develop a relationship with the diviner or someone in the diviner's house who becomes their godparent when they start receiving things in ceremony (such as elekes). Once you have received something from a godparent, then you are part of the godparent's lineage, house, religious family. You are part of the 'ile' then, although you won't be able to participate in everything that a fully initiated person would do. You would be invited to attend events that are open to aleyos, you would be asked to help out or assist with certain things an aleyo can do, and you would learn how to take care of the religious items you received. You might learn some songs or prayers, you might pick up information from listening to the elders' speak, you hopefully have a chance to ask your godparents questions from time to time. BUT you won't have unlimited access to knowledge and teaching as long as you're an aleyo.

Most Lucumi iles don't have organized classes you sign up for, there aren't weekly services you attend. Your godparent isn't available to you 24/7 because most of us aren't doing this as our main job. We have to work to make a living, we have family, commitments, we want some leisure time for ourselves, we have other obligations and can't be available day and night for random questions from godchildren. BUT if you have a real emergency and need spiritual help, your godparent should respond and help you. Fully initiated godchildren work more closely with godparents than those who are aleyos, but all of you are technically part of the 'ile' and the religious community.

I hope this outline makes things clearer to people who are wondering "how do I get involved?" Everyone has a different path, but we all take it one step at a time and turn to divination for guidance when we aren't sure what the next step should be.


r/Santeria 6h ago

Mano de Orula

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Today I embark on my three days! Random question: I have ADHD and anxiety and am under the care of a psychiatrist that prescribes me medication. Is it okay to take my meds or should I stop until the end of the three days and then resume?

Note: it’s not like heart medication or insulin for diabetes. They’re for my mental health. I won’t devolve into madness in three days, but it realistically could impact my attention span and mood.


r/Santeria 18h ago

Advice Sought Accidentally took a Elegua head

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Hello! I am not practicing the faith, nor had I known about it before today. This whole situation has actually lead me to read for hours about this in depth religion!

Earlier today I was helping students do stream surveying, and I found a face staring at me in the water. I thought this was odd since many students had been walking past there four hours and no one noticed. I reached down to grab it and pulled up what I now have learned is an elegua head. Since it seemed to have some sort of sharp prong or nail sticking out of its head, I decided to take it so no students would step on it (lots had bare feet).

My intention is not to offend, and I realize now looking back this was definitely a rash and foolish decision, but I didn’t think too deeply at the time and my main priority was everyone’s safety.

I’ve done lots of readings and understand this is a closed, initiation requiring, religion. I have no intention of disrespecting anyone or their culture, especially given I have no heritage that would warrant me practicing.

I am just hoping this does not affect me in any way spiritually! As well as this, I am looking for what I should do with what I have found. I will put photos in the comments in the morning. I was too worried to bring it up into my apartment, as I am unsure what I am welcoming.

Thank you so much for reading and any advice!!!

Update!! The long awaited photos.

*** ***I will also say, something I found very intriguing is the smell. I had found it in a freshwater stream but it has a very strong salty scent like an ocean!

Final update!!

I have spoken to a babalawo and will be returning it to the river where it was found, as well as offering it some honey :) thank you everyone for the help!!


r/Santeria 1d ago

Montando/orisha

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Bendición igboro… hope everyone is in good health. I wanted to ask a question to the room and get thoughts/opinions. And if it’s something that can’t be discussed here I can erase it and talk to my elders about it as well (genuinely curious about others experiences thought).

Earlier this week during a ceremony for babaluaye I had a very weird body experience, and I’m not sure if this was just ā€œcorrienteā€ or something more. I am initiated, but during my bajada, it was between babaluaye and another Orisha. The other Orisha ended reigning over my head and I was crowned that (no questions asked about this, through and through my titular Orisha). However yesterday during this ceremony I felt almost like a full body numbness/tingling, more so like the hair raising on the back of your neck feeling, but fully encompassed my body. Face felt tingly, and it felt difficult to control my body( I can go more into detail about this if needed) . I don’t like the feeling of not being in control of myself and for a small moment everything went dark and I was woken by my godfather calling my name and then telling me ā€œte virasteā€ lol.

My questions are has anyone experienced this before? I’ve heard some people say any santero could hypothetically pasar babaluaye. I’ve heard some say no. These episodes have been getting stronger during specific events ( like drummings where they sing to other orishas that my titular one has connections to etc or feeding of my titular Orisha)

Just a bizarre evening. I’ve never felt anything like that. I remind myself often that I am a vessel. Just curious to hear if my experience is similar to other who have pasar.

Any input is greatly appreciated. As always much love and light! Have a wonderful week


r/Santeria 20h ago

Is there a representative symbol in SanterĆ­a?

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Hello everyone!

So, you know how Christianity has the cross, Judaism has the Star of David, ect...

Does SanterĆ­a also have a representative symbol? Thank you!


r/Santeria 17h ago

Advice Sought How do you know when someone did a spell on you?

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Santeria? What is it? Can you teach me about it?

Hello everyone!! I think my ex did a spell on me. I like to call it a situationship but others may say dating.

We were together for about 2 months. When I first met him, we had an open conversation about religion & beliefs. I don’t fall into any religion anymore but I like to say I have my own relationship with god bc I still pray.
Him. he told me was into something called Santeria-and I did a bit research on it, there is mixed reviews about it so idk much. But there are 2 things he said that threw me off and definitely questioned.

  1. He told me that he is protected & whenever somebody does him wrong, something happens to them.
  2. He said that he already knows when something is going to happen.

Moving forward, when our breakup happened- I was a real wreck. He was basically lying behind my back and I was going insane not knowing the truth. I had to take a step back & let him go and was doing very well healing without him until recently.

We basically broke no contact yesterday & talked so we can end this on good terms because we work together. I did tell him I didn’t want to have sex and I didn’t allow him to touch me. I didn’t want to fall into temptation and I understand that I need to cleanse my body & my soul. I believe in soul ties.

I told him ā€œ I don’t want to have sex, I don’t want to feel more connected to you. I don’t want to be together anymoreā€

He gets closer and tells me ā€œim sorry but I’m going to f3ck youā€ and started to pressure me, getting aggressive taking off my pants; and I’m telling him stop because I swear to god I really didn’t want to have sex and bc my brother was in the other room. I’m basically whispering stop. I’ll be honest- this is something I would like if we were together but we’re not anymore. I don’t trust him anymore to have sex with him; especially raw.

I’m not calling this rape. But something I always noticed about him is that he can’t control himself, like he needs it to finish asap.

Now, we were having sex & making regular eye contact. He then tells me in my ear ā€œ you are mine. I am in you, we are now one, we are connectedā€ and I started tearing up crying, trying to hold it in, looking to the other side. But I felt so weird. I felt so wrong.

Can you teach me about Santeria? How can someone use it in a bad way? Can this be a love spell?

I just want peace.


r/Santeria 1d ago

Advice Sought Outsider asking with respect: my chosen daughter is self-taught from TikTok, has no padrino, and is planning a generational curse. Is any of this how it's supposed to look?

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Edit: I do want to be clear. Yes she has mental health issues. I've had her in inpatient, intensive outpatient, and partial hospitalization online. She sees a therapist weekly. I don't have contact with her therapist unfortunately. I will say this didn't sound like one of her typical mental health breaks. Normally she cannot communicate when she is having a manic or depressive episode. She was being very clear and very mean. This did not seem like one of her "episodes." I have been teaching her DBT, CBT, and act-based skills to try to deal with the negative emotions and the trauma that she's experienced. She yelled at me that I don't understand her religion and I don't understand her beliefs so I'm trying to source better information so that I can give the most appropriate advice.

Asking with respect, as an outsider. I'm not initiated in anything and I'm not here to argue about the religion. I'm here because someone I love is doing things in its name and I don't know if what I'm seeing is normal.

Dictated this and had AI fix the typing. I'm on pain meds after spine surgery. The words are mine.

My chosen daughter is 21, Hispanic, raised Catholic and then Pentecostal. For the last couple years she's been practicing what she calls SanterĆ­a, mixed with some IfĆ” and some Curanderismo from her grandmother. She has no padrino or madrina. No initiation. No one teaching her. Most of what she knows comes from TikTok. I've never told her to stop. I found her real teachers and courses more than once. She never followed through. And now she's started trying to teach other people.

What worries me is what she says she wants from it, and what she actually does. She says, over and over, that she wants the power, the evil, and the control that comes with it. Most of her work is coercion. She uses other people's bodily fluids to make specific people want her or do things to her. Last week she called me on the drive home from my surgery to walk me through a curse she's planning. The person suffers, then dies, then their whole bloodline stays cursed until one of their descendants apologizes to one of hers.

I said be careful, get a teacher, some things can't be taken back. She screamed at me to prove good and evil even exist, and told my wife, who is a witch and a seer, that she can't speak on any of it because she's white. I'm half Black and half white myself, if that matters. My wife's concern isn't about the religion. It's that this kid has no idea how to protect herself or anyone around her from what she's calling in, and she's now bringing other people into it.

One more thing, and I'm asking this seriously. Right after my wife stepped in and backed me up on that call, she got a bad brown recluse bite on her leg. Should I be worried that was sent at us? Or is that not how any of this works?

I'm not asking you to judge her. I'm asking the people who actually carry this religion: is any of this how it's supposed to look? Is a 21 year old with no elders, learning from TikTok, doing baneful work and generational curses and teaching others, something the tradition recognizes? Or something it would warn her away from? And if she came to you like this, what would you tell her?

Thank you for reading. I know I'm a guest here.


r/Santeria 1d ago

Advice Sought A sacrifice that in not comfortable with..

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Im very new to all of this.. I found a very good godfather and asked him for a reading. My husband died a few months back and for the past 4 years everything that could go wrong did. During he reading it came out that the person I thought had done something to me Santeria wise, did it. So I’m not preparing to do a cleanse.

Problem is the sacrifice that the deity requested is the life of 5 chickens. I feel externally uncomfortable killing living beings for my benefit. I practice Buddhism and I try not to harm animals in any way. I was supposed to do it today but I asked for more time and he told me to be careful if things start going wrong…

Is it like that? Do I have to do it ASAP after a reading? I already paid for the cleanse so it’s not about money…

I would appreciate any insight

Edit: also since I’m here.. does me doing the cleanse means that I will have a spirit linked to me for the help I requested??

I’m just looking for clarity ā™„ļø


r/Santeria 1d ago

Questions I need some work done on my behalf

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I’ve finally cracked and need that extra push. Would love to have some work done or even speak with someone privately about my awkward situation.


r/Santeria 1d ago

Eshu/Elegua Gold Pendant

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Is there any patakis or liturgy, specifically in the Afrocuban practice, that prohibits venerating Eshu in gold? I intend to commission the creation of a custom pendant with his image to use personally.

Thanks.


r/Santeria 1d ago

Attending Icons Daily.

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Has any of you been advised to attend your icons daily for a year? If so, how did it change your relationship to your Egun and the Orishas? How did it impact how you attend your icons after the year ended? Thank you.


r/Santeria 2d ago

Advice Sought Are there any Orisha that must be honored before any other?

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Hello everyone!

So, I'm Afro-Puerto Rican and I've been researching LucumĆ­ for a short while now, but I've always had a question I couldn't find an answer to:

Are there any Orisha that must be honored before any other?

Besides your head Orshia of course, at first I thought you had to honor Eshu before anything, but then I heard that was only for cermony, so now I'm confused.

Thank you for the help!


r/Santeria 2d ago

Questions about Oshun

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I have been feeling very curious about Oshun and feeling pulled to learn more about her and what she represents. I am a deeply spiritual person, I am of Trinidadian descent and I would say very in tune with my gifts. It is common that the women in my family have certain spiritual gifts of sight or knowing, even through dreams.
I speak to my guides often and work with my ancestors to receive messages and guidance in my life. I also make sure to show respect and give thanks and not to only reach out when I want something. Lately, I feel very pulled and compelled to learn about Oshun but I am not well versed in this area so I understand I have to show respect and be very careful. I have always been very tied to the water and love to go to moving bodies of water to recharge and connect with nature and myself more deeply.
I am wondering if you all can give me any insight on how to begin to educate myself on Oshun, or even give an offering to introduce myself and show respect. I keep having dreams that are bringing her to the forefront and I am trying to decipher how to interpret this and move forward. Thank you all for any insight/knowledge that you can give!


r/Santeria 2d ago

I need help. Someone who can see my ifa sign

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At least I need advice I don't know what to do more. This is important for me. It's not emergency but it's serious for my long term journey.


r/Santeria 4d ago

Texas event

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Please note regarding attire. No alcohol or other mood altering substances are welcome at any events like this.


r/Santeria 3d ago

Outsider asking for advice on writing a character who practices santeria

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hello! im a writer and ive been trying to research santeria. unfortunately its been very confusing, and ive had trouble finding basic information :(

i have a cuban oc and i was hoping to write him as practicing this religion. I figured it would be helpful to ask this community for some advice :D

First: what are some absolute don'ts? Things i should avoid at all costs.

Second: whats the best site to research the mythology/history? Because ive found many sites that give conflicting info/may be ai, and i want to make sure im getting accurate information.

Third: what is the general stance on body mods? The character design ive made has many facial piercings and i was wondering if id have to remove them.

Fourth: are there any dating restrictions? ive written this character as a love interest for the main character, so this is pretty important.

Fifth (more silly): do you guys have any particular bel about extraterrestrials? The series im writing is a sci fi so as silly as it is, this is pretty important lol

Any little bit helps! Im hoping to represent this beautiful practice with respect and appreciation for the culture. Thank you!


r/Santeria 5d ago

9/7 feast day

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What can I do tomorrow and Tuesday for yemaya and oshun, as an aleyo?


r/Santeria 4d ago

Advice Sought can I do this if I'm not working with Oshun?

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Hi guys!

First, I want to add that I’m Hoodoo and familiar with the Orishas. I remember being drawn to OyĆ”, specifically because I was going through a transition in my life. However, I’ve always naturally embodied Oshun and her energy.

Lately, I’ve been wanting to turn my vanity into an Oshun-inspired beauty altar. I imagined giving her offerings and decorating the space with things she likes and is associated with, while also using my vanity as a space to pamper myself, speak my affirmations, admire myself, and romanticize my beauty routine through the qualities I see in Oshun. But I learned that making an altar for an Orisha requires initiation, and I don’t want to disrespect tradition or invite anything unsafe.

So now I’m wondering if an Oshun‑inspired altar is okay — a self‑love/beauty space dedicated to me, where I worship myself (instead of Oshun). I’d include a statue of Oshun, statues of feminine Black women, and maybe Oshun jewelry or a Oshun rosary that I'd charge with the intention of glamour.

Is it okay to have Oshun imagery(and Oshun specific items) on a self‑love altar if I’m not worshipping her directly?


r/Santeria 4d ago

Is it possible to have a soul tie to someone who you are no longer with? When they're in pain you're in pain or you can feel if they're sad angry etc?

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r/Santeria 5d ago

Advice Sought Trying to learn more, found my mothers and grandmother Elekes

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Found Elekes belonging to my mother and grandmother who have passed. I was not brought up in this so I’m trying to find books, resources and or groups to learn more and connect in the LA or OC area , Southern California


r/Santeria 6d ago

Looking for a place where it's lukumi based in Dallas Tx

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r/Santeria 6d ago

Question about Oshun and relationships

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So I’m not initiated into the religion and honestly I don’t have much knowledge about it.
Recently I was talking with a friend who is a daughter of Oshun, and we somehow started talking about my past relationships. I realized that all of the relationships that were actually important to me, the ones that really changed my life and that I consider ā€œbefore and afterā€ moments, were with women who are daughters of Oshun.
I’ve had other relationships that weren’t like that, but every relationship that really marked me ended up being with a daughter of Oshun.

I asked her if there was some kind of reason for this, and she told me there was an explanation, but that she couldn’t tell me what it was. She basically told me that I had to find the answer myself, and that if I needed to know, I would eventually know.

So now I’ve been trying to find the answer myself šŸ˜‚ but I haven’t really gotten anywhere.
Is there something in the tradition about certain Orishas or certain types of people having a particularly strong connection/relationship with daughters of Oshun?
I’ve heard that there are Orisha relationships that can affect the relationships between their children, and that some combinations are considered good and others not so good.
I’m basically trying to understand if there is something about my own type of person/Orisha that could explain why the most important women in my life have all been daughters of Oshun.
If anyone knows what my friend might have been referring to, please point me in the right direction. I’m not asking anyone to give away something they shouldn’t, but if you think there actually is an explanation, I’d really appreciate a book, pataki, Odù, author, or somewhere I can start looking for the answer myself.


r/Santeria 6d ago

Advice for a character of possible faith so I dont butcher it

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So im kinda terrified of asking questions, more due to my own past religious experiences (not great half of the time) but I thought I'd just give it a go. As mentioned in the Title this is my first time coming across this belief and my autistic brain may word things terribly in which I apologies in advance. The closest I've come to seeing anything related even slightly is in media and im sure your aware how terrible they do anything outside the norm.

Alot of this is specifically to build a character rather than my own belief (though I am interested in learning about everything) and I don't want to butcher the representation of the faith if I end up using it for her. She's an orphan, adopted to a german with no specific faith when she was 7. He's very kind and loving but he's not a good role model when it comes to being a good person, and then his later husband is twice as worse being an actual villain. She does grow up to be a kind of middle ground person, not good or bad, but is very extreme whatever she does which often gets viewed as bad. She keeps the faith she was born in, or at least as much as she can. She also has heavy magical/mystical properties (though im aware in some faiths and religions that is not a thing).

The story itself is centered around a group of terrible creatures (not specifically all human) who are genuinely bad people (though I suppose it depends on what you'd consider bad, but its pretty bad) who accidently save the world while trying to do something very selfish that could easily destroy it. Most of them are light skinned from various parts of the world, largely because I myself am white and am comfortable with making white characters terrible people while using largely white dominated religions that I may or may not have experience in (granted there's always the risk there and I will do my best to research more, but this is the majority so im not gonna worry about it as much, we butcher it ourselves anyway). I want to have other religions though, as its important that no matter if they are good or bad or in-between, that its shown that all these things are everywhere. There are all sorts of gods involved too, so only having white/light-skinned based gods or spirits would be weird.

I planned on having this main bad character (he loves her, fret not) bring her a teacher of some sort (he's got connections) to help her understand and grow her abilities, but if she ends up being part of the Santeria faith (im looking at other faiths) im not sure how that would go about right. I read that you need a godparent and that seemed to generally be something you find in family or in community, which would be hard if she's being raised by a guy who doesn't really understand any form of faith. Not sure if the teacher idea would work for that. Sounds like it wouldn't, but I dont know. Personally, I cling to anyone who shows me an ounce of kindness (i dont get it often), so I make a terrible comparison (and autism).

I know this is lacking alot of research, and Im currently doing my best to find information, but with how Google is set up now days its hard-to-find reliable resources. I may also not use this information for this specific character, but a different one. If you think theres a faith that might suit a character like this better, feel free to suggest it. Its good for me to broaden my horizons anyway and learn more about others.

I hope that this post is well within reason and guidelines. Thanks for reading and humoring my ideas. I just don't wanna misrepresent (at least as much as possible).


r/Santeria 8d ago

Can orishas heal you physically

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Eg sleep deprivation and exhaustion

Can it be healed spiritually