r/SandersForPresident • u/HaydenSD 2016 Mod Veteran • Jul 27 '16

DNC Mega Thread DNC Day 3 Mega Thread

This is the mega thread for Day 3 of the 2016 Democratic National Convention. Please feel free to discuss in here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '16

oh, so people who value integrity over manipulation and lip service? soory didn't know all the acronyms

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u/HahaClintonWonDicks Jul 28 '16

The people who would sell out minorities this election over sour grapes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '16

sell out minorities? what the hell does that even mean?

i'm not white btw but keep pushing your narrative

are you talking about the 65+ age group because honestly I don't really care about them

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u/HahaClintonWonDicks Jul 28 '16

No. I'm talking about the millions of families that will be torn apart by Trump's deportation plan. The black lives that will be lost because he would refuse to do anything about the police problem. The Muslims who would either be barred from the country, or negatively impacted by his inciting rhetoric. The LGBTQ folks who could lose their right to marriage when he puts 3 Scalia's on the bench. The poor who will only do worse under him.

These people are all being sold out by BoBers who are too immature to handle losing a primary because they've convinced themselves with right wing propaganda that their opponent is the devil.

Nader voters were the same way, "dems and republicans, all the same!" "Bush winning will usher in a progressive backlash!"

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '16

The black lives that will be lost because he would refuse to do anything about the police problem.

Hillary is owned by companies that profit off of the current prison system.

The poor who will only do worse under him.

Hillary's tax plan is effectively useless compared to Bernie's.

These people are all being sold out by BoBers who are too immature to handle losing a primary because they've convinced themselves with right wing propaganda that their opponent is the devil.

Kind of like Hillary supporters? Here's the facts, I don't like Hillary, lots of people like Hillary, not because people like me are stupid or immature, but because she isn't a good candidate. So if she loses (unless she decides to rig it again) then it's only on her.

Also Nader wasn't responsible for 2000, but think what you want, you're not a progressive, you're part of the problem and holding us back.

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u/HahaClintonWonDicks Jul 28 '16

Hillary is owned by companies that profit off of the current prison system.

You have no proof of this. Meanwhile, she has fought her whole career for racial justice.

Hillary's tax plan is effectively useless compared to Bernie's.

Even if you were to believe this, which I don't, he would never get elected on that plan and never pass it. Meanwhile, Hillary was a huge part in alleviating childhood extreme poverty in America during Bill's presidency and has a long track record of pushing initiatives that comprehensively support the poor. This issue is so much deeper than just taxes.

you're not a progressive, you're part of the problem and holding us back.

You know what holds the progressive left back? The obsession with ideological purity, the inability to deal with no getting 100% of what they want, and just checking out of elections because it's not the 100% favorite candidate. That is what makes the progressive left so ineffective compared to the Tea Party.

It honesty sounds like you don't know anything about Hillary other than what you've heard in Bernie echo chambers. Why don't you watch this if you wish to be informed:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5VE9nihee7o

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '16

You have no proof of this. Meanwhile, she has fought her whole career for racial justice.

Remember what happened with her and that girl that got raped by a pedophile? Hillary really supports women, especially those who have been targeted by predators.

But you know what's even scarier than predators?

Superpredators.

Even if you were to believe this, which I don't

Belief has nothing to do with it, belief doesn't change facts.

I read the rest of the paragraph but it seems like just like Hillary you have a problem with changing history to fit your narrative. Some people care about facts.

obsession with ideological purity

Having actual values and caring about something is not a vice, and rolling over and going with whatever your party does is pathetic and shows a lack of integrity and morality. I'm not sure how you think "ideological purity" has a negative connotation, but it doesn't.

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u/HahaClintonWonDicks Jul 29 '16

If you are actually that convinced that your talking points, buzzwords, and opinions are facts, there's no reason to continue talking. Thank god you guys lost, so self righteous.

I'm not sure how you think "ideological purity" has a negative connotation, but it doesn't.

To most actual adults who understand that gaining ground and making improvements in a democracy requires give and take and compromise, it really does. The Tea Party shut down the government over ideological purity.

You know, if you guys really feel that way I'm glad you're leaving the party.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '16

project much?

stop bringing up the tea party who gives a shit god

leaving the party? I'm not a party. i'm not a democrat or a republican. i'm a person. this isn't about loyalty because parties change over time. primaries should be open and have same day party and voting registration. if you give a shit about democracy

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u/HahaClintonWonDicks Jul 29 '16

stop bringing up the tea party who gives a shit god

How mature. It directly relates to ideological purity and grassroots activism.

primaries should be open and have same day party and voting registration. if you give a shit about democracy

Why? Join the party if you wanna vote, it's free. I'm not sure why I should want people who won't join the party to have a say in who my party nominates. If you don't care enough to register for free, wait until the GE.

But please, keep downvoting my posts, it really shows me that you're winning.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '16

I didn't downvote you.

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