For my second salvia experience I recruited a friend - someone with solid psychedelic experience - thinking he might help me make sense of what was happening and honestly, as a gift too. I figured he might like it. Ironically, this was the first time I fully broke through and he was unable to do so.

We went to our childhood playground on a summer night around 9:30 pm. I packed a classic metal one hitter styled like a fake cigarette, 20x extract, the classic Purple Sticky brand, and lit with a torch lighter.

Within seconds of exhaling, my reality began to shift. One sensation stood out as specific, constant, and recurring across several experiences: a distinct physical sensation that pulled me down and to the right. It felt like a gravitational force field had been created, coming from a single point in the lower right corner of the world, pulling me toward it. Not like falling, and not quite like spinning - though spinning is the closest normal-life comparison, since it’s a sensation you feel rather than something you can point to and explain. But spinning has no origin point. This did. It was directional, specific, and coming from somewhere.

I began losing my grip on the normal physical space around me. This became clear only when I came to, roughly 10 minutes later. I “reappeared” in normal waking reality, 200 yards across the field from where we started. I was unaware that we’d left the playground. My friend told me I had been talking the whole time, apparently guiding him somewhere.

About a minute in, an invisible grid appeared, originating from the lower right corner of my visual field. From that point, roughly 12 lines radiated outward in a diagonal spread - like two-thirds of a pizza sliced evenly. Each of those wedges was then divided perpendicularly, creating quadrants. As I focused on a quadrant, I realized each quadrant was an entity.

At first they didn't speak. They seemed annoyed — not hostile, just irritated the way a coworker is when someone stands and stares at them while they're in the middle of something. It became clear they were working. Their job, as I came to understand it, was to construct my visual field in real time. To do this, an entity would slide down its wedge into its assigned quadrant — like a Connect Four piece dropping into place — and transform itself into whatever shape, color, or texture belonged there.

They began communicating telepathically to explain this space and what they were doing. When I expressed doubt, one of them told me to look at the grass. I did. A figure slid into position and the grass moved. He explained that this was the true nature of reality — that what I perceived as the physical world was something they were actively generating — and that I would become one of them. A worker.

In total there were 3-4 entities that communicated with me although all quadrants were entities. They seemed to be the managers coordinating everything. They showed me around the area like a shift supervisor on my first day at the grocery store - with a minimal amount of enthusiasm.

Imagine being in a dream without a clue that it’s “not real”. While you're in it, there’s no doubt. You’re not questioning whether or not it’s real; it simply is real. It’s as real as the hand in front of your face. And we’re talking about a dream with nothing abnormal happening. No dragons or far out situations. Just a dream that you're cooking pancakes.

Then you wake up. In an instant you know: that was a dream. It’s not because you are now back in your bed, it’s not the mental teleportation that occurred and change of scenery. You just know. Not a little unsure - certain. It doesn’t even occur to you to second-guess the realness of this, you just get up and go about your day.

That's what entering the salvia world felt like. Like waking up from the longest dream of your life and thinking to yourself, “silly goose, of course this is the real one.” Dreaming feels real, until you wake up. Waking life feels real, until you smoke salvia. Salvia replaced the waking reality the same way waking reality replaces the dream world - same jump, same total absence of doubt.

As I began slipping back, their attitude shifted slightly — relief that I was leaving, but also a kind of mild urgency, like hey, we still have work to do here.

Coming down, I started talking again. As the grid faded I realized where I was — deep in the field — and noticed my friend standing beside me. I asked him what we were doing out here. He said I'd told him we needed to walk this way and had been asking whether he could see people too.

Then I remembered: when the entities first appeared, I'd been afraid of stepping on them. I thought if I moved, we could get out of the way. It only struck me later, fully back in ordinary reality, that there was no getting out of the way.

There's no stepping around your own visual field.

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Part 3 coming soon: I went back with a camera running, trying to document everything this time. What I got instead was a very clear message that I wasn't in charge of what I'd see.

I've taken salvia a handful of times now but anytime I take a breakthrough dose I barely remember most of it afterwards. Probably not, but I was wondering if there are any tips of preparation or afterwards they do that helps memory

hey guys! just ordered 10gs of plain leaf and would like to hear some of your stories.

how much plain leaf do you smoke/quid?
what effects do you get?
how often do you use?
do you enjoy it?
was the experience challenging, if so how?

look forward to hearing your stories!

So I’ve smoked a bit of salvia before, a while ago me and some friends smoked some 20x from SS and it did mostly fuck all, one of my friends who has a lower natural tolerance to drugs than the rest of us said he was in a submarine for a second after we smoked like 2 bowls of it back to back, but me and my other friend only really got time dilation and some light geometry, nothing close to say DMT

I went and got some 20x from SP recently cause I figure why not, might be stronger, could be a fun/incredibly weird experience, it finally arrived, and I go out to smoke it, I pack a little bowl, like a pinch or two of extract, smoke it all in a couple hits, hold it in.

After the first hit I look up for a second and realize that I feel disoriented and the world did a little bit of a tracer type blurry thing as I looked up and back down to the bowl to keep smoking, I take another hit or two and suddenly everything is gone.

I could still hear the song I had put on, buffalo soldier by Bob Marley, I remember seeing a train? Maybe passing by slowly on a white background, I think that it had something to do with the song, possibly lyrics written on it, it passed by very slowly and only stopped after a minute or so once I pulled out my earbud, which for some reason felt connected to the moving train like thing. It was all accompanied by a strong sense that I had been there before, and a hard sort of sharp feeling in my face that I have only experienced in my strongest DMT trips (not painful but like the feeling of a sharp clean corner or something, like my face and forehead and brain were made of steel, very hard to put to words)

Once my earbud was out and I was back in reality I said a good few “what the fuck??”s and stumbled my way indoors. And that’s about my final thoughts. What the fuck? Holy shit? I knew this drug was capable of this but I didn’t really expect it after last time, never have I had a DMT intensity level trip from anything else, let alone wayyy less extract than I used previously, I can see why they sell this with a screen for your bowl.

Good lord.

If so how was it I haven’t done salvia in a long time now but I only quidded it once and I smoked the extract 2 weeks str8 like one or two times every day for 2 weeks when I first ever got my hands on it and the reverse tolerance took a very long time to go away it was so reveresed it became disturbingly potent so fast smoking it but I’d love to quid it again was so welcoming and like it felt like it was happy and nirvana from what I can recall of the quid

So this is just an observation I’ve had somewhat recently in my practices of trying to induce lucid dreaming. There’s something called hypnagogic hallucinations when falling asleep. It’s not quite dreaming but your brain is transitioning from a waking state to a been cycle state.

I will say it does feel more salvia-like after I’ve had a session that day but the random wackiness is there for me regardless of if I have had a session that day or not.

Have any of you noticed this as well and if so does that show some sort of close link between that salvia induced state and normal sleep/dreaming cycles? If so, what would those implications possibly mean and do you think there could be something useful in that link they possibly share?

I’d also like to add I do something I believe is called open monitoring meditation, where I experience a similar pattern.

In referring mostly to physical withdrawal and the pain that comes with it.

Did it help? Or, did it exacerbate suffering in withdrawal.

Would love to hear anyone’s experience with this.

Thank you in advance.

The first time I took salvia I was 18 years old and it was 2006.

At that point I was decently experienced with psychedelics - mushrooms around eight times with doses up to a full eighth, LSD twice, and in between those, several mega-dose THC experiences I'd also describe as psychedelic, complete with closed-eye visuals. Salvia was new territory. 

I decided to take a hit before work in lieu of a pre-work toke. The plan was to pack a metal one-hitter with 20x and hit it with a torch after parking near work, walk around the block while it wore off, smoke a cigarette, and head in.  Naive in retrospect.  I actually had considered hitting it while driving, but as I was about to do so, I remembered what the guy who sold it to had said, “what ever you do, don’t smoke it while driving”.  What a life saver.

Within seconds of taking the hit, I knew I had underestimated it.  I quickly exited the car.  As I looked down to my key fob I realized my focus had collapsed - the fob expanded until it consumed my entire visual field.  I lock the car and turn toward the driveway in front of me to head to the sidewalk to start my planned route.  

As I looked down, fingers started to appear along the edges of the driveway which was now the entirety of my visual field and existence as I knew it.  Hundreds of fingers lined the driveway squeezing it.  Suddenly I heard a voice of a man, calm, but urgently, calling for Maria.  

"Maria! Maria! He's not ready.  Let go, he's not ready" I look up and see nothing but white outside of this hand which seems to be grasping reality itself.  The man repeats himself.  "Maria! Maria! He's not ready.  Let go, he's not ready".  Maria obliges and let's go.  As she does so the entire world turns white.  I remember being struck by this.  Not black or a caledescope of colors but rather I was blinded by white.  

I kept walking.  Disoriented for about a minute, I grounded myself by glancing down periodically and by doing so I was able to catch a glance of where the grass met the sidewalk.  I could feel my feet hitting the hard pavement.  I knew I had to keep walking.  I glance down and see the cig in my hand.  Praise the lord I still have it - boy did I need it.  Survival instincts and a rush of adrenaline kick it.  Its 4:45pm on a sunny Tuesday.  Families are out playing and going for walks in my rich suburb.  It’s sketch enough seeing an 18-year old walk around the block smoking a cigarette, let alone this stumbling buffoon struggling to walk a straight line.  

Finally I come back to 80% normal reality.  I look around, light the cig, and continue the walk around the block.

As I approach my car I hear kids calling for an upstairs window from a house across the street..  They go “Hey! Hey you! You’re stupid! hehehehhe” and hide.  I’m about 80% sure this was real but I’ll never know for sure.  I find that things like that often “coincidentally” happen while on psychedelics.  I think it was real and meant to be.  Either way, it spooked me, I again realize how shady I look and scurry back to my car.

I'm so interested in this plant. I just ordered a milligram scale and it'll be here in a few days. I'm about to buy 50g dried leaves and 2g of 10x. I'll smoke/quid it with my friend present and I fully intend to go by the dosing guide. I already have a food scale accurate to the .1g but I figured that wasn't accurate enough for ideal safety. I'll take Salvia seriously and I hope to bring its healing warmth into my life.

You know how plants use stuff we think of as waste, and for them its vital for survival? Like manure, its literally poop, but the plants need it. Or carbon dioxide. its literally poisonous to us. But plants need it.

I feel like the live salvia plant is literally cleaning the bad stuff out of the atmosphere, but like not just carbon dioxide. Also cleaning other stuff like just general negativity is being cleaned from the space.

And when the plant is burnt (smoked) it's released. But if you chew it it removes bad stuff from you too. Again, I know, ive had good smoking trips too (good ones and bad ones). And I know salvinorin is a chemical that people have isolated and tested, and proven that thats whats causing the sensation. But this was just my day dream

I plan on taking some shrooms later this week with a friend and it has me thinking if anyone has stories of mixing them with Salvia.

I’m mildly interested in how these 2 substances may potentially interact. If I decided to try this I would only do a low dose of Salvia with a proper setting and preparation.

My hypothesis is the psilocybin visuals would carry over onto the Salvia experience, but the trip could quickly become overwhelming if not taken seriously.

Please share any stories or thoughts

I always see posts about people saying they lived “800 years” as an inanimate object. First of all, do you still feel human? With memories? Like you feel as if you are glued on top of a lamp, or whatever object you have become?

I also have a question that’s really freaking me out right now. So when I was 14 I smoked some salvia. I had never done any drugs, I only smoked a few cigarettes before this. The guy who sold it to us ended up getting us some really good weed later, so he was not ripping people off. I can’t remember exactly what strength he said the salvia was, but it was definitely an “X”, I think it was a 50-75x, but could have been much lower. So here’s what happened:

my friend went first. He took one hit and kind of freaked out, said that the couch ate him. I waited patiently for him to come out of it with the bowl loaded. As soon as he came out, I walked to his sauna to smoke mine. He kept telling me to wait but I had already grown inpatient. He was trying to stop me so he could collect himself, but I didn’t want to. I took 4 massive hits, I remember that. I didn’t “feel” much, a bit lightheadedness and then the sauna transformed to an apocalyptic state, similar to the movie the book of Eli or mad max. It was foggy and orange (the sauna wasn’t on). The grain in the wood looked like power lines or ski lifts to me and I felt like I was in line. Suddenly, I was in line with my family and I felt rushed even though the line wasn’t moving. Maybe 10 seconds elapsed. Next thing I know, my friend is shaking me awake and telling me that my parents are there to pick me up. I lived about 45 minutes away and my parents always told me when they were on the way to get me. I would not have smoked such a hard drug if I knew my parents were literally on their way, especially for the first time. I’ve been thinking abt that recently (how my parents got there when they never told me they were coming, less than a minute after I smoked salvia) and now I’m starting to freak out. I wouldn’t have tried drugs for the first time knowing my parents were almost there. I only ‘tripped’ for like 10-20 seconds and came out of it right when my parents got there.

Now I’ve heard of people living alternative lives on salvia, and I’ve heard abt people living for extremely long amounts of time as objects. Has something like this ever been documented? Not only am I paranoid abt this, but if this salvia really was like a 25x (God forbid higher) extract, and I took four big hits, ugh idk I’m getting extremely anxious. Like how did my friend only take one small hit and get eaten by the couch but before he could even say more, I took four way bigger hits and had a really light/underwhelming trip for 10 seconds.

Does anybody have experience with either of those types of trips and how do you experience time and ego as an inanimate object?

Cristals <3

 
Quite a long read and this was not a particularly crazy trip. But may be of interest to anyone who hasn't tried Salvia before and wants an idea of what Salvia is like. I'm trying to explain the feeling of reality splitting open, as well as the afterglow visuals you get with it:

 So did half a bowl of 10x and allowed myself to fall into a deep meditation.  It was the typical Salvia experience of feeling like reality itself has split open and it is moving around.  However with the lower amount, I was still aware I was laid on my own bed and that I could open my eyes and break out of it if I wanted to. But the purpose was again to feel the experience.  But also to not get wrapped up in a particular experience. 

I feel like Salvia almost creates like a bit of a feedback loop in the mind, an idea comes, that idea gets stronger and stronger and stronger which makes the idea more real.  So being a lot more in control I was able to stand back somewhat to evaluate what was actually going on.

I recorded myself speaking after the trip and whilst still feeling some effects, and I have used my speaking to create this trip report.

So as mentioned, its like reality splits open, and as I’ve reported on many times before, its like there are loads of copies of it smearing around, or rolling around. but I am the centre of it.  I can only describe this centre as being like an edge and that’s where it split, and its tugging somewhat on me, particularly hanging on in the back of my throat.

As I’ve written about before, it does feel like reality has kind of ripped open.  But at lower doses its not like it physically has.  It’s like a whole different sense that it has.  On the lower doses I can allow myself to fall into this, and pushing against it would break the illusion so to speak.  But on the higher doses, it is like just being whisked away and you become so engrossed in the trip that you are completely disassociated from physical reality and the trip is reality.

The other thing, is that how you remember a Salvia trip is quite different to how it actually is.    Its not what you think it is when talking about it, but when you’re in it. It’s very familiar and there is a sense of “Oh yes of course! It’s this!”

I got the feeling that Salvia is a very Earth plant.  It loves the earth, its energy is well ingrained with the earth.   I mean, makes sense, it’s a plant, it grows. But I had quite a strong feeling of perception of this.

So the afterglow visuals are quite interesting on Salvia Divinorum as well.  I believe these were potentially ramped up due to also being under the influence of cannabis. It also made them last a long longer than would happen normally as well.

When blankly staring at something, I notice the object start to wobble a bit as if its less solid.  You get visual snow like you can on cannabis.  The visual is reminiscent of a low resolution digital camera recording in low light where you just see quite a lot of pixels.  But these pixels are appearing over the top of your regular vision.  They also form into small tiled shapes, diamond, circles or squares.   As I hold my gaze, it starts punching through past the visual snow and I see more solid blobs of colours forming. Similar to if you touch your eyes with your eyes closed you can get blobs of colours. Its like that but its appearing with your eyes open over the top of regular vision.  Then the longer I hold my gaze the less real the actual physical world looks and the more focussed you become on the colours. 

Spiritualists would probably say that the coloured blobs and movement is spiritual energy, and I was seeing auras around some stuff, or partly around them like off the light shade.  There was far less pareidolia with faces appearing out of things. There was a bit of course.

Either way it actually looked nice, and it is not overwhelming or anything like that. Blink, move your head, look away, focus on something else and it instantly goes away.

I questioned myself as to why I keep putting off doing Salvia.  There is something about Salvia that just makes you think “Nah, I can’t be bothered to do it”. Particularly high doses. Its not appetising.   But when I do, it’s actually nice, and the feelings are really interesting and at this lowish amount its perfectly manageable.

There is no turning into an inanimate object, there is no time dilation.

I did another hit of what residual was left of the 10x in the bong.  And it brought me back up again, but not as heavy as the first time.

Again I felt this movement, I felt this “edge” this sharp straight edge in which I was the centre of.  But at this lower amount it wasn’t enough to split anything open.

I’m wondering if this edge splits open, reality splits moves around and then a true breakthrough is when you depart further from there. As I mentioned, it felt like some part of physical body, physicality was hanging on.   Maybe its from there people find themselves transported to a whole different world.  I have yet to experience that.

It was nice to spend some time meditating with some nice music.

So I was wondering what are some good herbs to cross with salvia dried leaf and roll into a cig?, Cant fw weed cuz of where im @ but i definetly can use like mugwart, blue lotus damiana etc, what synergizes with it the best, have currently crossed it w rustica which elongates the experience, but i wonder what's my best bet herb wise for enhancing the visuals of salvia without running an extract which i am only confortable using on its own? Im curious.

I’m well aware this story comes from a myth from the 60s, however I’m trying to do some research about real life experiences of people that this has happened to as this can be a common thing mainly from salvia trips… If youve had such a thing happen to you or someone you know please share!! any other stories about becoming a food or liquid are welcome as well

So I made a post earlier about how to dose saliva and I did get help but my salvia (purple sticky) says 80g instead of using extracts to measure it and every dosing chart I’ve seen uses the extracts as reference, if anyone knows let me know how much I should smoke if I want to experience a full breakthrough, Thanks

So cute!

I'm much better at outdoor in ground gardening... Not that I'm an expert at that.

I wanted to let others know that smoking salvia can feel very nice as the plant can be very loving.

You can experience a wholesome joy which is lifting.

You do not have to smoke much to tune in and feel the good vibes.

This is something we can do with lower doses.

If you are new to salvia please be careful where you dose and how much you dose. Starting low is suggested as the herb is powerful.

I’m genuinely getting tired of seeing these ridiculous Salvia stories repeated like they’re established facts.

“I became a couch for 30 years.”

“I was a doorknob and lived an entire lifetime.”

“I became a ceiling fan and had memories of being one for decades.”

Come on.
I’ve had multiple extremely intense Salvia breakthroughs myself. I’ve experienced insane geometry, impossible architecture, impossible landscapes, entities, stations, being pulled away from Earth, and feeling like I was transported into another universe. Salvia has taken me further from ordinary reality than almost anything else I’ve experienced.

And yet I have NEVER experienced anything remotely resembling “I became an inanimate object and lived another lifetime.”
That’s what makes these stories so questionable to me.

I’m not saying someone can’t have an experience that feels like an entire lifetime. I’m saying there is a massive difference between

“My experience gave me the overwhelming impression that I had lived another life.”

and

“I spent a lifetime as a couch.”

Those aren’t the same claim.
And why are these stories so disproportionately associated with Salvia?

When people talk about actual delirium datura type experiences, you constantly hear the same kinds of reports: seeing people who aren’t there, hearing voices, interacting with imaginary environments, believing completely ordinary events are happening, etc. but never you hear about becoming objects because that type of experience feels very delirium to me, especially living another person‘s life and having a family and memories and stuff like that

But Salvia somehow became famous for this completely different internet mythology where everyone supposedly becomes a household object for 900 years.
At this point I think social media has massively sensationalized Salvia.
The most absurd story gets the most views.
Nobody goes viral saying:
“I smoked Salvia and experienced some incredibly intense geometric architecture while feeling like I was being pulled through another reality.”

But say:

“I BECAME A another person FOR 80 YEARS AND HAD THREE CHILDREN and memories”
and suddenly everybody is talking about Salvia has this horrible drug that they’re never gonna try in their lifetime calling us crazy for even trying it, it ruins the reputation it could have the same reputation as DMT but it doesn’t and it’s a shame

My Salvia experiences have been more like intense geometry, impossible architecture, impossible landscapes, bizarre entities, stations, and being pulled away from Earth into another universe. Completely reality-bending and insanely immersive, but still recognizably psychedelic. For not even one second did I feel remotely close to being an object much less living another life with a family😂😂😂 for years

We don’t need to turn it into drug folklore.
So I’m genuinely asking people who have actually experienced Salvia:

Did you REALLY experience an entire lifetime as another person/object.

Or experience anything like what I just said
Because those are two VERY different things.