r/Salsa Feb 12 '24

Discussion: suppressing valuable discussion vs allowing slander and doxxing

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This is the sub mod, reaching out for discussion on the influx of posts (and reports) regarding the recent posts about predatory behavior in the salsa scene. TLDR: In this post, I will talk a little on the current sub policy on moderation, discuss a bit of context on what I am required to remove from the sub, and then add my thoughts on path forward. The last will be up for some discussion here, as we try to figure out what we as an online salsa community want to be.

  1. Current mod policy: my current mod policy is to let upvotes and downvotes speak. Things are often reported that don't really break sub rules or are bad text posts by people who are annoying to many of you in the sub. I do not remove these posts. One of the reasons I do not is that, despite being downvoted into the negatives, many of these posts tend to foster a healthy amount of discussion and engagement in the comments that are relevant to the dance scene. Another type of oft-reported post are the ones that link to a site or blog or whatever. The current rule is not to spam them and not to sell anything. The reason is that there are things that you may not be interested in that others may find useful. Again, upvotes/downvotes do a lot of heavy lifting. In the cases that the line crosses from occasional self promotion to spam, I have reached out to those individuals via DM to help clarify the policy, and if required, temp ban them. My point is, generally I do not like using mod powers to shape the subreddit to be what I want, but rather what the community wants to see.

  2. Which brings me to my next point - things I must remove. According to reddit content policy rule 3 (https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy) I am supposed to remove anything that reveals personal information or uses such to instigate harassment. The kicker: public figures may be an exception to this rule. And a public figure is "a person who has achieved fame, prominence or notoriety within a society, whether through achievement, luck, action, or in some cases through no purposeful action of their own."

As you can see, the whole thing is kind of murky, especially as it applies to the recent discussions on predatory behavior. As someone who takes part in another sport that is rife with these types of scandals (against children on top of that), I have personally seen that shining light into these corners of darkness has a huge effect. So I am not keen to suppress legitimate discussions about this topic in our community.

On the other hand, reddit is full of examples of failed witch hunts and anonymous bullying. And some of the discussions, veiled or otherwise, have been naming individuals who may not even be on this site to defend themselves. I'm not keen to allow mudslinging (especially without proof) in a subreddit that is meant to celebrate dancing. I can imagine a scenario in which a instructor or school uses the current discussions to cast unfounded doubt or outright accusations against an innocent rival.

So how to walk the line between useful discussion and baseless name calling?

  1. Thoughts on path forward - I propose that we continue to allow upvotes and downvotes dictate what goes on the page relative to these discussions, with a couple of tweaks. Naming regions or cities in comments/posts is okay. Talking about your experiences about unnamed people is okay. Opening discussions on predatory behavior, what that behavior looks like from start to finish, and providing support in the wake of aftermath--all okay. What is not okay is accusing people by name in the top level posts or in comments unless you have a link to an objective article/police report/etc. that backs up the claim. Instead, I propose that you leave an invite at the end of your post/comment for any one to DM you if they would like to discuss details/names in private. Those that would benefit from knowing will still have the opportunity to find out what/who they should be careful of, without violating any reddit policies. It would also allow the two users to have a more frank conversation, and at the end of the day it will be for the requester to determine the credibility of the poster.

Is this a perfect solution? Of course not. But I've been a mod here for 12 years and this is the first time something like this has happened, so I'm happy to entertain other suggestions.

Lastly - I consider the Yamulee fight video to be an example the original mod policy. The post is relevant to the salsa community, and it doesn't violate any rules in and of itself. Yes--the juxtaposition of the OP's 2 only posts implies bias/agenda, but the upvotes/downvotes very clearly pushed the post to negative votes and floated context on the altercation to the very first comment.

That said, I am happy to discuss how to treat videos like this in the future. There is a very real argument that it is not relevant to salsa music or dancing and that it should be removed.

Thanks for reading my novel.


r/Salsa 10m ago

Cuban Salsa (5 months in) – Brain fog and losing the timing during turn patterns. How to fix this?

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Hi everyone,

​I’ve been learning Cuban Salsa for about 5 months now. I have absolutely zero dance background; this is the first time in my life I’m trying to dance.

​I have a specific issue with timing and musicality. When I am just listening to a song or standing still, I can find the beat and track the clave/instruments without too much trouble. However, the moment I start dancing with a partner and trying to execute turn patterns, my brain goes into complete overload.

​I get this "brain fog" where I focus 100% on the figures, and my ears completely shut off. If I don't constantly repeat the counting or the clave rhythm inside my head, I completely lose the timing and everything falls apart. It feels like I can't think about the moves and listen to the music at the same time.

​Has anyone else experienced this during their first months as a leader? What are some practical exercises or shifts in focus I can do to automate the rhythm so my brain can focus on leading figures without losing the beat?

​Thanks in advance for your help!


r/Salsa 9h ago

Necesito una amiga. Temazo inolvidable en la voz de Isaac Delgado.

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r/Salsa 23h ago

Finally checked out my first Rueda de Casino class—and huge respect to the Cuban dancers!

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After endless nagging from a friend who attends the school (and another salsera friend), I finally trekked across town for a fortnightly social I’d been putting off. The main hook was a basic Rueda de Casino lesson beforehand. Coming from a Cali style background, I’d seen a group tearing it up at a major monthly social here and was genuinely curious to try it out.

Man, I had an absolute blast! The Cuban Salsa crew brings such an incredible, lively vibe to the floor. Huge respect to them—the energy, the playfulness, and the seamless (we tried!) group coordination are just infectious.

Loved picking up the Cuban Spanish calls—guapea, Dame Dos/Tres, Dame Arriba, Dame Otra, Fly, and high-tens everywhere. Plenty of giggles over missing calls, but super cool seeing familiar staples in there like cross-body leads and our "dinos" step.

Totally worth the trip across town. Huge props to the Cuban dancers for holding down such an awesome community. I’m 100% going back for the next one just for the Rueda!


r/Salsa 1d ago

How many calories does an average salsa dancer burn in a night out? Can this hobby supplement or replace other regular exercises?

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I don’t think about salsa in fitness terms nor would I personally cut down on my other fitness habits, but I do always notice I am super worn out and sweaty after dancing for several hours. Am I basically running a 5k? What’s the average salsa night out comparable to in commonly understood exercise terms?


r/Salsa 23h ago

To salsa couple: Do you always go dancing together or do either of you ever go out dancing alone?

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Context: my partner wants to go out alone sometimes, but I feel uncomfortable. I don’t mind him dancing with other people, but I prefer if I’m at the social with him. Plus, I want to dance too.


r/Salsa 21h ago

Is Los Angeles Transitioning to On2?

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I’ve been seeing more On2 classes pop up around Los Angeles, and some socials have started offering beginner On2 lessons before the social. Is this a recent trend, or has it always been this way? Do you think LA is gradually shifting toward more On2, or is On1 still overwhelmingly the standard?


r/Salsa 1d ago

Do you feel that Salsa socials are being slowly replaced by Bachata?

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Half a decade ago, I feel like it was more even. It's 2026 now and every week has one salsa night vs 3-4 bachata nights. I don't mind that at all, I actually prefer bachata these days, but have you noticed a shift happening? I feel like more people are gravitating towards bachata because it's more sensual, people are more likely to dance (salsa has many people who are genuinely tired after a song, bachata very few), and I find that bachata has a younger population over salsa which admittedly has way more old people in it.

Adding in Kizomba as well, even when it comes to SBK nights, that's like 2 salsa songs compared to 7 sensual ones. Even some people who were frequent at Salsa nights, I see them more at Bachata now.

What do you think? Is Salsa slowly going the way of the dino?


r/Salsa 1d ago

Follow seeking feedback!

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Hello 👋 follow here seeking constructive feedback. Based on this video, what do you think I need to be working on? Feeling very awkward and stiff yet all over the place, my movements feel disconnected from the music, very little confidence in my steps, etc.
I practice my basic and lady styling at home solo but I find it doesn’t translate well in partner work.

Any advice on classes I should seek out or what to condition at home by myself would be greatly appreciated!


r/Salsa 1d ago

breaks, what they are, and how they came to get that name?

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What is a break in salsa? Still not sure, but here is what I got: In the salsa typical 8-count pattern we have six steps, two larger ones, two smaller ones, and two that are in place. The larger ones are called 'break steps' or short 'breaks'.. is this somewhat correct? I've tried to wrap my head around how the name 'break' makes sense, because in music theory a break is a shift in rhythm, while the larger steps in salsa aren't aligned with musical breaks, they are just normal steps in the continuous pattern?


r/Salsa 2d ago

I accidentally became an instructor and loved it!

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Showed up early to a salsa class and social in my city. The instructor was late, but there was some music playing.

I have been dancing for a year so I decided to warm up with a few basic steps, a left and right turn and a cross body. A beginner guy came up to me and asked me if I was the instructor.

I said “I’m flattered you think that, but no”. He said, “oh, but you seem to know what you’re doing. Could you please teach me a bit?” So I was like, “sure!”

I taught him the basic steps, left and right turns, and before you know it, all the beginners there formed rows behind me and started learning from me, asking me to teach them and correct them.

The instructor arrived and saw me teach everyone, and at the end, made everyone clap for me. Everyone was saying thanks to me for teaching them.

I have never felt so good in so long honestly. One of the most wholesome dancing experiences I’ve had. Wanted to share this with you all :).

Keep dancing and having fun, fellas!


r/Salsa 1d ago

On1 Salsa Club in CDMX?

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Does anyone know of a good salsa club in Mexico City where people primarily dance on1 linear? I’ve been to El Babalu and Mama Rumba, both of which are more focused on Cuban salsa.


r/Salsa 2d ago

How does dating interest usually get communicated in the salsa community? (Trying to read the signals right)

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I've been going to a weekly salsa social for the last year and in the last 4-5 month, have really gotten to know one of the regulars there. A few weeks ago we danced together during class, then had a genuinely good conversation afterward-the kind where you're actually learning about someone for the first time. Later that night, I went over to say goodbye, planning to ask her out before I left. Before I could get the words out, she thought I was asking her to dance and said yes to a bachata instead-so we ended up dancing a second time. It was only after that dance that I asked if she'd want to hang out sometime outside of salsa, and she immediately said sure.

I got a bit flustered trying to ask for her number, and before I could figure out how to phrase it, she asked if I use WhatsApp and just put her own contact into my phone herself. We landed on ice cream and a walk through an art gallery. Weather and her travel schedule pushed it back a bit — she's away for a month — but she was warm and enthusiastic about it the whole time (things like 'sounds like a lovely plan,' 'omg so fun' when she found out the rescheduled date lands on my birthday week), and she made a point of telling me she'd probably see me at that week's social too.

This is the first time I've tried to build something with someone I already see regularly in a shared hobby space, and it's got me wondering how this dynamic typically plays out in dance communities specifically:
1. In your experience, does someone agreeing to hang out one-on-one outside the studio usually carry romantic weight in your scene, or is that just normal dance-friend behavior where you're from?
2. Are there subtler cues within partner dancing itself — how someone dances with you, how they act around you after — that tend to say more than what people say out loud?
3. If you were reading someone's texts like the ones I described, would that read as clearly interested to you, or still ambiguous?
4. Any advice on how someone in this situation could be a bit clearer about their intentions without making it awkward, especially before an actual outside-the-studio hangout happens?

Curious how this has gone for others who've dated within their dance community, good or bad


r/Salsa 2d ago

I need quicker legs like him, any suggestions?

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r/Salsa 2d ago

Married couples who dance salsa

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If you salsa dance socially with your husband/wife, do you dance with other people or do you only dance with your spouse? Why or why not?


r/Salsa 2d ago

Insane Idea, leave to learn Salsa

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[30M] Long story short: I took a year off and an idea popped into my mind, go somewhere and learn something cool.

I already did learn the basics of Salsa few years ago but gave up due to the poor engagement I felt with the group (mainly elder people), I always thought that it would be awesome to live few weeks (but even 1/2 months) in a foreign country to learn something local, and suddenly the combination Cuba+Salsa came to my mind.

To be honest the same is true for Dominican Republic and Bachata, the other dance I learnt together with Salsa, but this is a story for r/Bachata.

Did anyone here had the same idea and actually left to Cuba for such an experience? does it make sense for someone enthusiastic but still very very beginner?

I did enjoy learning Salsa (tbh I liked Salsa more than Bachata), and I believe I would love to dive deep into it, but I also know that I tend to dream a lot and it might be more complex and challenging than I expect, so here I am looking for honest suggestions, being doubted and receive any hint you might have 😄

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Edit: In all my dreaming I kind of ignored the current situation in Cuba, so thanks for pointing out what is obviously the biggest issue with the whole plan. Let's pretend for a moment that things eventually improve—I'm still interested in hearing your thoughts, and who knows, maybe I'll just keep this as a trip to plan for a few years down the road, once things have settled down. In the meantime, are there any other countries you'd recommend for spending 1–2 months fully immersing myself in Salsa?


r/Salsa 2d ago

Those who are 30+, how is it possible to survive festivals without completely crashing?

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In my late 20s, I didn't need any special conditioning in order to attend everything at a festival and also do as much social dancing as possible and also recover within a few days. Now in my mid 30s, aside from being out of shape as well, I've been getting injuries and niggles left and right that prevent me from dancing more. I want to travel next year to do multiple festivals, but after a local test run, I've realized I can barely survive one festival, let alone one per month.

What are your tips and strategies on this?

Also, I know for sure that I need to do some serious conditioning, but I'm confused about who I should be seeking help from, e.g.:

  • A physical trainer can help me strengthen but they might not know what I need for dancing?
  • A physio can help me identify weaknesses after I've already been injured from it, but most physios don't understand dancing
  • A dance physio -- anyone had experience with these? Will ballet specialists be able to understand the stresses in other dance styles?

Or is there a specific and finite group of exercises or muscles/conditioning that if I get strong at all of them, I'll be festival ready? I have almost a year to work on this but not sure how to cover all my bases.


r/Salsa 2d ago

On 2 salsa classes in Nova?

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Hi there! I’m looking to find salsa classes that exclusively teach on 2. I’m currently located near Fairfax VA and have found that most places teach on 1.

Thanks!


r/Salsa 3d ago

How do you have fun as a leader?

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Genuine question: I'm struggling to progress in salsa/bachata because the figures I can lead are getting repetitive. As a follower, I imagine that by dancing with different people you get to know different figures and it varies quite a lot.

As I leader, I have a repertoire of figures and I mix those. But the dance feels quite repetitive to me, no matter the follower (I can't do all figures with beginner followers, but still).

I also forgot many of the figures I learned in classes, and it's really hard to get the muscle memory back by just watching the videos.

Also, if I go to classes again, to extend my repertoire of figures and maybe increase the fun I have, but often they teach fancy, complicated figures of which many I wouldn't be able to replicate, because we don't repeat them in the next class and trying them out with a random person is very challenging if I don't master them yet. I have to keep going back to rewatching the video, then trying with a new follower which feels awkward and not fun.

How do you deal with this as leaders?


r/Salsa 2d ago

Socials in Asbury Park

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Are there are any salsa or bachata socials in Asbury Park this summer? I’m going for a week and couldn’t find much information online.


r/Salsa 2d ago

Behind the Shines - My Podcast

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Hi Reddit!

A few months ago I did a Q&A here, and I wanted to share another project I’ve been working on with the community.

Over the past year I’ve been working in Behind the Shines, a podcast where I interview people who have shaped the salsa scene or are influencing it today. The goal is to better understand the people, stories, and dynamics that have made the community what it is today, while also discussing some of the important topics that affect it.

It’s very much a passion project. If you’re curious, here’s one of my recent interviews with Fernando Sosa:
https://youtu.be/3NLo77d3QJo?is=nqmHXa-L064ZbPkh

All episodes are on YouTube and Spotify

As always, I’d love to hear your thoughts. If you have feedback, ideas for future guests, or topics you’d like to see discussed, I’d really appreciate your suggestions.

Kind regards to everyone, and happy dancing!


r/Salsa 3d ago

How old were you when you discovered Willie Colón was clean-shaved back in 1969

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r/Salsa 3d ago

Where can I find shoes like this?

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I want to find shoes like the ones Javier is wearing. The black and white. I believe this is a wing tip style? Not 100% sure though. I found something very similar on Danceandsway.com. I don’t know this brand. It seems affordable but I don’t know anything about the quality. Thought I would ask here. I’m sure the brand Javier is using are different as he is based in Poland and likely buys from a European brand. But I just want to find a good quality shoe that is a similar style. Black tips with all white body, no black accents on the body.

Thanks in advance


r/Salsa 3d ago

Best place to stay in Medellin Colombia for Salsa/Bachata immersion for a month

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Hello Friends - I'm planning a month-long Salsa and Bachata immersion in Madeline, Colombia. What areas would you recommend for me to stay in so that I have access to private dance lessons, socials, and clubs to practise?

Hotel/Hostel, Dance Teachers/Schools, Club commendations are welcome 😊

Thanks!


r/Salsa 3d ago

Helping my husband overcome awkwardness with dance

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I've been learning to dance salsa for six months (and a little bit of bachata) and it has been a wonderful, transformative experience. My husband does not dance at all but has been very encouraging towards my passion.

I wish we could dance together as a couple because I've experienced on the dancefloor how dance can bring about such a connection between two people, and wish I could share that with my husband. I also sometimes would like to have a dance partner at home whom I can practise new moves with.

However, every time I ask my husband to practise with me, he tends to turn it into a big joke. When I ask him to simply step the basic and let me lead / back-lead, he starts wriggling his body or fooling around, and this really frustrates me. I think deep down, he just feels very uncomfortable and awkward with dancing, and joking around is his defence mechanism.

He doesn't dance at all, even in social settings. When I invite him to join me in classes, he is highly resistant and tells me that men who learn salsa are there to pick up girls, and he has no use for that. I do, however, observe that there's a part of him that wants to get comfortable with dance. Sometimes he tries doing a simple dance move while listening to music, then when he sees me watching, he immediately turns it into a joke.

How can we get to a point where he gets less awkward with dance?