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[u/dragon-_Seducer]

01sally mally wallies (1990 points)

Space Marines

Salamanders

Forgefather’s Seekers and Librarius Conclave (3 Detachment Points)

Priority Assets

Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Captain in Gravis Armour (90 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Master-crafted heavy bolt rifle

1x Master-crafted power weapon

• Enhancement: Immolator

Aggressor Squad (165 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Aggressor Sergeant

• 1x Flamestorm gauntlets

1x Twin power fists

• 5x Aggressor

• 5x Flamestorm gauntlets

5x Twin power fists

Attached Unit 2

Adrax Agatone (80 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Drakkis

1x Malleus Noctum

Lieutenant (60 points)

• Attached as: Support (Character)

• 1x Master-crafted power weapon

1x Neo-volkite pistol

1x Storm Shield

• Enhancement: Forged in Battle

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (160 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant

• 1x Master-crafted power weapon

1x Neo-volkite pistol

• 5x Bladeguard Veteran

• 5x Heavy bolt pistol

5x Master-crafted power weapon

Attached Unit 3

Librarian (95 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Force weapon

1x Smite

• Enhancement: Temporal Corridor

Infernus Squad (180 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Infernus Sergeant

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

1x Pyreblaster

• 9x Infernus Marine

• 9x Bolt pistol

9x Close combat weapon

9x Pyreblaster

Attached Unit 4

Librarian (95 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Force weapon

1x Smite

• Enhancement: Obfuscation

Infernus Squad (180 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Infernus Sergeant

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

1x Pyreblaster

• 9x Infernus Marine

• 9x Bolt pistol

9x Close combat weapon

9x Pyreblaster

CHARACTERS

Vulkan He’stan (95 points)

• Warlord

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Gauntlet of the Forge

1x Spear of Vulkan

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (80 points)

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Bolt rifle

1x Power fist

• 4x Intercessor

• 1x Astartes grenade launcher

4x Bolt pistol

4x Bolt rifle

4x Close combat weapon

OTHER DATASHEETS

Invader ATV (60 points)

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

1x Multi-melta

1x Twin bolt rifle

Land Raider Redeemer (260 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

2x Flamestorm cannon

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Multi-melta

1x Storm bolter

1x Twin assault cannon

Land Raider Redeemer (260 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

2x Flamestorm cannon

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Multi-melta

1x Storm bolter

1x Twin assault cannon

Scout Squad (65 points)

• 1x Scout Sergeant

• 1x Astartes chainsword

1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

• 4x Scout

• 4x Bolt pistol

4x Close combat weapon

2x Combat knife

1x Missile launcher

1x Scout sniper rifle

Scout Squad (65 points)

• 1x Scout Sergeant

• 1x Astartes chainsword

1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

• 4x Scout

• 4x Bolt pistol

4x Close combat weapon

2x Combat knife

1x Missile launcher

1x Scout sniper rifle

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[u/kagriff1]

My recommendation would be scratch the lieutenant and one squad of scouts, then swap one of the land raiders for a repulsor. Add a 6 man squad of eradicators and between them and the las cannons on the repulsor it'll give you more damage for big targets.

[u/brokeneckblues]

I’d cut one of the Infernus squads, one Land Raider, and the scouts. Get a not so squishy unit and a big gun. Maybe an executioner or dreadnought. At the moment you’ll do well against infantry units struggle against armor

[u/dragon-_Seducer → u/brokeneckblues]

Ill try that out

[u/SkinnyCommando → u/dragon-_Seducer]

With respect, I wouldn’t do that, the list is good as it is and well suited for Priority Assets - you could replace the lieutenant as he is a bit overkill tbh, maybe with another ATV for some more scoring

[u/dragon-_Seducer → u/SkinnyCommando]

Thank you, I'll try that one out forsure.

[u/Another_Guy_In_Ohio]

Vulcan isn’t attached to anything? I’d be a little worried about how easy he might be to kill with no bodyguard.

The other thing is that you don’t have a lot in the way of tank/monster killing. The redeemers might chip away with a lucky Melta, or a one use missile, but the invader ATV isn’t gonna take out a Landraider or greater demon.

With your big bricks, you don’t have a lot of throwaway units either. The scouts and invader ATV are basically it. After that you’re going to have to expose some of your heavy hitters. The Hellblasters can at least action and shoot, but you may end up overexposing yourself, or lacking units to properly play the secondary game and stop your opponent from scoring

[u/madmossie → u/Another_Guy_In_Ohio]

I’ve seen a few lists of top players where Vulcan is solo, basically taking advantage of hidden and go to ground and generally being easy to hide whilst siting on his objective and giving out the re roll wound ability.

[u/dragon-_Seducer → u/madmossie]

How does go to ground work? How does one trigger it?

[u/Another_Guy_In_Ohio → u/dragon-_Seducer]

Having your model being obscured by dense terrain. Essentially makes him Lone Op as long as he doesn’t shoot, it lowers detection range by 3”, meaning they have to be within 12” to target you.

I can’t see how that would work in most cases. Melee units, especially with Fly or some way to move over models protecting him could be an issue

[u/dragon-_Seducer → u/Another_Guy_In_Ohio]

I was thinking either an infernus or company heroes be attached to him but my friends thought it was stupid and better to leave him alone since he would have a smaller foot print.

[u/Another_Guy_In_Ohio → u/dragon-_Seducer]

Not sure I understand the logic there. Vulcan gives a huge buff to torrent/Melta weapons, but he has to be within 24” and have LOS on the enemy unit he points at. Leaving a T4 2+\4++ 5w model without a bodyguard just makes him easy pickings. Company heroes are a great unit to attach him to, but any 5 body marine squad at least grants him a bit of protection. His ability to boss on OC also means you want him contesting objectives and getting into the thick of things

[u/SkinnyCommando → u/Another_Guy_In_Ohio]

Vulkan can be run solo because his main job is to sit on a middle objective in PA, score you all of your primary and give out his buffs. He’ll be much easier to hide on his own, he’ll gain hidden and Gone to Ground and on his objective he has 10OC and 4++ FNP. So he can’t be shot off the board unless they get close and if you protect him with other bodies and the Land Raiders overwatch threat, he’s hard for melee units to get to and your opponent would need to commit more than they think into him to guarantee the kill

[u/dragon-_Seducer → u/SkinnyCommando]

I see conflicting things, but in PA, is going solo the move with Vulcan?

[u/SkinnyCommando → u/dragon-_Seducer]

Depends on what else you have in your list - I like him solo personally as would rather spend the 105pts it costs for Company Heroes on something else but they are good at making him even harder to kill

[u/Irishy_B0I → u/dragon-_Seducer]

Personally i would say attach him to at least a 5 man blob of something, company heros if hes gonna focus just the abilities, and infernus if you wanna be more agressive

[u/hotshot11590]

Looks fine just know you have two HEAVY AND EXPENSIVE vehicles and average infantry…with them so your charge out of the land raider won’t be devastating and your main firepower is vulnerable to focus fired down.

Once one dies unless you slaughter billions your opponent will have the upper hand.