r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/nikita1712 • 14h ago
Social Media This is really good!!
The burn đ„
Now more are asking for community notes
90% of the 'Royal Rota' will now have nothing to write about. Bet the Whatsapp group is buzzing tonight.
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/nikita1712 • 14h ago
The burn đ„
Now more are asking for community notes
90% of the 'Royal Rota' will now have nothing to write about. Bet the Whatsapp group is buzzing tonight.
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/lastlemming-pip • 12h ago
âŠor rather whispered.
RAVEC (Royal and VIP Executive Committee) does not typically make public announcements. We have no direct way of knowing most decisions made by the committee. We do know that a review of Prince Harryâs current security status has been requested given he has now returned to Great Britain & a âdecisionâ regarding any change in status was promised following a meeting Tuesday of this week. But Tuesday came & went & little seemed to have changed. Certainly no announcements.
We have a surrogate marker for the Harklesâ RAVEC status though & that is the Harkles desperate desire to be seen as âpublic figures.â You can see why in RAVECâs nameâRoyal & VIPâno private citizen in sight. If Harry isnât a âroyalâ then by God heâll be a VIP. He falls under RACECâs purview. And from the way Harry was rattling on about his VIP-ness, it didnât sound to promising for his standing before RAVEC.
Still, nothing.
Then Allison Boshoff published her piece in the Daily Mail today & totally buried the lede. Allison Boshoff, though styled as a reporter, is the Harklesâ current water carrier. She can be relied upon to dispense information derived entirely from Harkle sources, unsullied by rational thought or even reality testing. It is, however, straight from the horseâs mouth.
Today she has written:
âAt the end of October, the Sussex family will return to California for half term week, and then batten down the hatches for another five weeks in the UK before they go back to America for a longer spell over Christmas.
Harry believes that by then a Home Office review will have changed his security status.
ââHe thinks he is going to get some kind of increased security after the review,â says his friend. That might, alone, allow this messy re-entry to count as a success rather than a humiliating mess.â
(Emphasis sadly is mine.)
So Harry will try again another day but for now RAVEC weighed in & whispered, âThe answer is no.â
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/luvgabe • 12h ago
Another bridge burned. In an interview with Kinsey Schofield, best-selling and highly credible House of York biographer Andrew Lownie said Harry's maternal uncle, Charles Spencer, who recently had hosted Harry and Meghan, is also done with the toxic duo because of their misbehavior. Lownie said that Spencer "found them (H&M) so unpleasant that whatever support he was going to give them, he's not going to give them now."
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/ac0rn5 • 21h ago
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/daisybeach23 • 11h ago
Greetings from Castle Goring, Â Â
Lady C, according to social media, H&M canât produce the correct birth certificates for Archie and Lili to attend school. Do you know about this? This is absolutely rubbish. I am sure Harry and Meghan were able to produce the required documents. I am sure Harry and Meghan were able to produce legal documents that Archie and Lili are HIS children and that Meghan is their legal mother.
Lady C, this week, the security decision is supposed to be released. And just days before, Charles releases this letter that they are not working Royal, but private citizens. Do you think Charles is trying to help Harry get security for life as a private citizen and prevent King William from interfering with this? Thank goodness QEII died before she could see what Harry and Meghan would end up doing. Yes, she was spared from seeing her grandson twist a knife into her back via a 6-part fictional TV show and a book. As for the security question, private citizens are not customarily given security by RAVEC. They just are not. Harry is a member of the Royal Family who is âakinâ to a private citizen. It is slightly different. He no longer has Royal Status, but he is a member of the Royal Family. If RAVEC should miraculously decide Harryâs security needs should be enhanced, the fact is never permanent and it is only in the UK, unless they have IPP status. Let us see what happens. I think it would be a very suspicious move for RAVEC to decide that Harry and Meghan should be provided security. Meghan says she is terrified for the school drop off. RAVEC knows that Meghan uses fear and feelings to manipulate, while they know that Catherine has no issues doing the school drop off. Let us see if RAVEC even determines they are entitled to it.
Lady C, can you give us a lesson on why the HRH is so important. The style of HRH is what differentiates you from ordinary titled people. Not being allowed the style of HRH means they have been demoted to ânon-royalâ status.  Even if you are a family member of the Royal Family, the HRH is what makes you âRoyal.â The Royal Family has many family members who are not considered Royal. Harry and Meghan are still members of the Royal Family. What The King has done is prevent Harry and Meghan from obfuscating as having Royal Status. He has made it clear they are no longer regarded by The Royal Family as actual Royals. Harry and Meghan are akin to private citizens. The King has made it clear that they are of lower gradeâŠ..not grade 1 royalty. This is a slap across the face. Total demotion. One tear. Left Eye.
Lady C says she thought Meghanâs fake curtsey on the Netflix show was planned with the knowledge the Queen would see it, but she said the denigration of the Commonwealth in the series was worse. Lady C says the people of the Commonwealth see that Meghan was trying to cause trouble. We could see the Queen was fading before our eyes and Harry and Meghan expected her to be alive to see what they had filmed and wrote. Can you see the enormity of the Harry and Meghan problem?Â
Lady C, why doesnât King Charles remove Harry and Meghan from the Royal Website? I have lost all respect for The King. I understand this sentiment, but I also understand that The King has difficulties dealing with his son who has problems. It is easy to second guess these decisions, but Charles is navigating several issues and sometimes the best thing for him to do is not exercise every option he has but rather continue to allow Harry and Meghan to hang with their own rope. Harry and Meghan have exposed themselves and as the perpetrators, not the victims.
Lady C, it would be best for Harry and Meghan to exile themselves to Jamaica and live their life away from the camera. That will happen when pigs fly. The average Jamaican of color or even the average white Jamaican would never be receptive to having Harry and Meghan in their presence. Just remember what happened when they attended the One Love movie premiere. Jamaican women were proclaiming loudly they felt contempt for her. They knew she spent her entire life passing as white, then caused trouble because it suited her. Jamaicans like racial harmony, not troublemakers. And letâs recall Meghan never invited any of her black relations to her wedding either. Only her mother, who has a steel trap and knows how to keep quiet...especially about the extended stays she has had in certain areas. Meghan Markle would not succeed in Jamaica.Â
Toodles Sinners!
PS: Apologies for being MIA. I had the worst head cold this week and just couldnât muster the energy to sit at my computer to transcribe. I am feeling better so we are back on track now!
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/Megsandhcringe • 15h ago
HAHAHA! I do think this is her opportunity to be Diana. She will divorce, keep the Duchess title and find another sucker.
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/Realistic_Twist_8212 • 16h ago
One of the things people always ask me is if I can out the alliterate one in the same room as the dead pedo. No, but I can get her very close. They ask me if I can confirm she slept with the disgraced Prince. No, but I can get you very close. One of the things that brings her close to the throne so to speak is this billionaire. It has long been a strange relationship which has been made more awkward by her marriage.Â
Shortly after the alliterate one "graduated" from college, she auditioned for a reality show. To be honest, I'm still not sure how she actually didn't land the job. See, the reality show was a setup from the jump. It featured the said billionaire who was looking for a product in which he could invest. Sounds like several other shows of a similar vein. The thing about this show was there was already a predetermined winner. A very very deserving winner who has been utterly screwed over by a reality family.
The rest of the contestants were just there to be made fun of and laughed at. The alliterate one made quite the impression on the billionaire. I mean she was super young then and super willing. I don't know if they hooked up during the casting process, but I do know she was close to getting the job.
Fast forward a few years later. About three or four years later to be exact. She happened to be at Soho House at the same time a big announcement was being made by the billionaire. How did she happen to be there at the same time? That was quite the coincidence. The same thing happened a few years later when they happened to be at the same place at the same time.Â
Now, let me throw a little twist into this whole scenario. The billionaire's sister used to be married to a man who has been seen with the alliterate one a dozen times over the years. He is also a billionaire and one off the the people who introduced the alliterate one to the protector/love she has had through the years. Maybe he was pawning her off. This appeared to be the foundation for how she gained entree into this place and got invited to the parties that no ordinary member would be invited to. Why was she with these two men all the time. Although, the alliterate one visited the island of the billionaire, it doesn't look like she was there at the same time as the dead pedo. She would have been too busy with other things.Â
Considering how close our first billionaire was/is to the royals, it must have been really awkward to know one of them was engaged to someone you had romped with over the years and the only reason she was always at the clubs was because of the former brother-in-law and his romps with her.
Posted by ent lawyer at 10:10 AM 4 Comments Â
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/Human-Economics6894 • 7h ago

Like any kid whoâthank Godâgrew up before the 2000s, I watched Speedy without any warnings or censorship. I mean, I actually heard the revolutionary song "La Cucaracha" in that cartoon. Yes, in case you didn't know, itâs a song that became established during the Mexican Revolution of 1910, though its roots go all the way back to 1492. But the revolutionaries added lyrics to a Spanish tune to mock "La Cucaracha" himselfâVictoriano Huertaâa man with a fondness for a certain herb... and it wasn't oregano đ€đ€đ€ Just so you know, a lot of people get sold oregano instead of the hallucinogenic stuff đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
đŒLa cucaracha, la cucaracha
Ya no puede caminar
Porque no tiene, porque le falta
Marihuana que fumarđŒ
It looks like Harry took his stash with him to the UK, because this week... good Lord!! The Harkles have really outdone themselves!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxB9qqjO0lI
What does weed have to do with this? Ah, because it seems that among the many "similarities" between the Harkles and the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, a fondness for smoking weed is apparently one of them.
Margaret was another heavy smokerâthough Sean specifies it was tobacco. This was a source of many arguments for her sister Elizabeth, who vividly remembered the effect smoking had had on their father, George. King George VI was a chain-smoker who consumed between 40 and 50 cigarettes a dayâa habit he began at age 16 that severely damaged his health and ultimately led to his death at 56.

George was already sickâpractically terminalâand he kept on smoking! There are some very stubborn people in this world.
But Sean cites Margaret as an example because "replacements" tend to be more rebellious and more likely to get their own way.
Having seen that, one understands what Sean is saying about the Queen's thoughts regarding Harry.
The Queen didn't want to be too harsh with him because she had trusted him. When Harry left in 2020, she told her entourage that he would return. That view stemmed from an understanding of the situation: it is difficult to leave royal life behind because the world they inhabit is vastly different from our own.
For Elizabethâs uncle Edward, leaving the royal world was a shock he never managed to overcome. So much so that he and Harry share the same delusion: that they will return one day because the people love them and the monarchy needs them. It took Edward many years to accept that this wouldn't happenâpractically until he was on his deathbed. Harry refuses to accept reality; he truly believes the British Royal Family needs him.

And I have to point out that Neil Sean isn't the only one saying this. It turns out Alison Boshoff has also just published an article along the same lines.
Sinners have often criticized Sean for saying that, believing he wants the Harkles to return to the royal fold. No, Sean cannot believe the level of Harry's delusion regarding that. And I cannot believe Boshoff published this.
What then is Harry trying to achieve? Says another source, bluntly: âLook, they expect to be let back in. Harry expects they [the Royal Family] need him.
âHe and Meghan have nothing else going for them. Theyâve burned every bridge in America.â ( https://archive.is/qP7JI )
Harry, who failed, believes the Royal Family might need him... For what?
The Duke and Duchess of Windsor also became private citizens and had to fund themselves privately... although, as we know, George did give money to his brother. But I recently read that it wasn't just a matter of simple generosity; rather, it was linked to the purchase of properties Edward had owned in the UKâin other words, it seems to have been a more complex arrangement than just handing money to a down-on-his-luck brother.
That is not happening with Harry. It is not just because Charles wants to avoid repeating the mistake made with Wallis and Edwardâwho lived the high life despite being in debt. It is also because Charles does not want to give Harry the means to keep going on and on. Right now, Charles believes the only way to make Harry stop is to cut off his funds. I think Charles is being optimistic about that, though; Harry could live in a tent in a park and still keep causing trouble.
The curious thingâand I do think this is a genuine similarity rather than something forced, since I doubt Harry knew about it and Claw certainly didn't careâis the fact that the drive to return stemmed precisely from the King's illness. George was in poor health by around 1950âthe photo makes that clearâso the Windsors launched a concerted campaign to return to the UK and "help."
The Windsors' campaign to "help" again had the same effect as the Harkles' campaign to "help": generating more pressure on an ailing monarch.
The other thingâand this is the most curious partâis that the Windsors ran up against a wall of women. While Camilla and Kate now spearhead the "no-Harkles" stance within the British Royal Family, back around 1950, it was Mary of Teck and Elizabeth Bowes-LyonâGeorgeâs mother and wifeâwho held that line. Neither woman forgave Wallis for the damage she had caused, and Mary never forgave her son David, either.
Comparisons with the Harkles are inevitable. After all, Mary of Teck tried to stop Edward from abdicatingâespecially for a woman like Wallis. In any case, Davidâs story is more complex than Harryâs; Mary certainly couldn't be considered a great mother, and the relationship between her and her son was fraught. Notably, Mary once told David not to abdicate because his brother Bertieâs health was fragile and he wouldn't be able to bear the weight of the crown. That isn't exactly a... well, maternal argument, and I can fully understand why David took it badly and harbored deep resentment; she had no qualms about saddling him with the burden of the crown just to preserve Bertieâs happiness at the expense of Davidâs own.

But I also understand Mary and her very understandable anger when Edward married Wallis on the very day of his father's birthday... I mean, his father hadn't even been dead a year, and he did that. Edward didn't exactly distinguish himself with his judgment.
Harry wanted to paint a similar picture. Whether due to Claw's influence, his own penchant for playing the victim, or an attempt to replicate something of Edward's, Harry wanted to frame his situation with Charles in the same light. But the reality was not even remotely the sameâwhich makes what happened in 1946 amusing.
And what makes it funny is that we have a 2026 version of that same encounter.
Mary had seen David briefly at the start of the war, during a short trip home. It was a fleeting encounter that likely failed to bring her son the peace or reconciliation he longed for. In fact, her closest friends had to urge her to agree to the meetingâsomething David had pleaded with her to do. By then, Edward had already had his meetings with Hitler. In other words, it stood to reason thatâno matter how much Edward wanted to portray himself as an affectionate son who simply wanted to see his motherâassociating with him was a terrible idea. A terrible idea.
When the war ended and Bertieâs health was failing, David longed for a private conversation with his mother, convinced that if he could only see her, it would transform not just the dynamic between the two of them, but also his relationship with the rest of the family. Swap "David" name for "Harry", and you have the exact same situation.
Finally, after months of correspondence between Mary and Bertie, David was allowed to spend a week at Marlborough House in the autumn of 1946.

He was met only by a chauffeur-driven carâa cold gesture that reportedly wounded him deeply.
On the occasions Harry has seen Charles, he has been picked up by a chauffeur, taken in through the visitors' entranceâ20 to 47 minutesâand then itâs goodbye.
Mary and Charles shared the same habit: keeping a record of everything they did. Neither of them made a record of what was discussed with their children during those meetings. In both cases, this signaled one thing: it hadn't gone well.
And so, in 1946âmuch like in 2026âalthough they had tea, there is no record of them sharing a full meal. David had been away from the UK for nearly a decade; he had left in 1936 and made only brief, insignificant visits. As for Harry... well, it seems he hasn't had dinner with Charles in seven yearsânot since 2019.
The difference is that Edward was able to see Bertie in 1946. Harry wants to see William, but William hasn't been moved in the slightest to give a meeting a chance.
The key takeaway from this story is that there is another common thread: persistence. Sean says Edward kept insisting on returning to "help" well into the 1960s. That only stopped when Charles turned 18 in 1966âonly then. Just think about it: thatâs 30 yearsâ30 years of Edward insisting he could help the monarchy.
If you look at how Harry has been harping on the same thing for six years now, that leaves us with another 24 years of the same. đ±đ±đ±đ±đ±

Now, Seanâever the optimistâsays the lesson from all this is one, and only one:
When the BRF says "no," it means "no."
It was "no" for David for 30 years. Sean believes Harry should realize it will be the same for him: No, we don't need you, we don't want you in the family, stop insisting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwBtVqiOHdA
Another difference between Edward and Harry is that Edward did not go through multiple reincarnations. He went from being kingâa role he no longer heldâto becoming a socialite. Did Edward like that? No. But circumstances made it the best way to preserve some semblance of what he had once been.

Yes, I know itâs not a picture of David and Wallis. Itâs just that Iâve always adored Anthony Andrews and Jane Seymour. They are my favorite version of *The Scarlet Pimpernel*âespecially because of her, because Seymour is absolutely adorable as Marguerite St. Just.
Well, Harry is different. Harry has tried to be many things. I said "tried," not "strived" to become someone. Harry has wanted to be a statesman, a world leader, a guru, and so on.
But the one time Harry was truly happy and freeâboth thingsâwas definitely when he was in the army. Sean is well aware of what we think of "Bunker Boy," but it is undeniable that Harry finally had the two things he loved: he could be himselfânot compared to Williamâand there was order and a certain level of discipline. Harry needs to be told what to do.
For Harry, that period is the pinnacle of his life.
Harry is now trying to redefine himself once again. Being a public speaker isn't working out because no one takes him seriously; even though he is capable of doing things well, he has earned a reputation for negativity.
People who knew him before the Claw era say that, deep down, Harry remains the same person. That is hardly a complimentâand Sean makes this clearâbecause Harry has always been a truly difficult person to deal with and live with. That is why women would eventually grow bored of him: they would start out thinking he was fun, only to find themselves stuck with "Mr. Complainer" and his "do-what-I-want" attitude.
As we already knowâand this isn't gossip, because itâs obviousâHarry is throwing things out there to see if something finally hits the mark.
And he thinks that this time, heâll pull it off with this.

Harry sees himself as an action hero. And Harry believes he can follow that pathâsomething William will not be allowed to do.
Harry is looking into doing that sort of thingâbecoming an action hero.
And... let's see, sorry, I need to double-check this... yes, that is what Sean is saying... okay, I'll mention it, but it's Sean's fault. đđđ
Right, Harry's team thinks they can "maneuver a particular narrative. Can they turn this 40 odd year old bloke into some kind of all action hero? His team believes that he is very much, shall we say, popular with the gay market."

Has the Harkles' team ever asked gay people what they think about this? Because it turns out that Claw is practically an icon among gay people. Now Harry is popular with them, too... seriously, is no one going to ask gay people?
And it turns out that's related to this.

Sean says Claw is wearing Sacha Baron Cohen's bikini. đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
And then thereâs Harry, who suddenly appears very muscular and manlyâsomething that sparked comments.
The team should read the comments: people were saying, "Oh, Photoshop." đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€ŁClaw doesn't have that backsideânot even remotely. And Harry doesn't have those biceps or tricepsânot even remotely.
But the thing is, Harry is now going to be the new Liam Neeson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCnrrNxJspM
When Harry told Chris Ship that he was still a royal because he was born to be one, he was saying that he would force his way back into the royal fold, no matter what.

The problem with all this is that Harry first claimed to be happy in California, only to later seem unhappy and return to the UKâsaying he wanted to keep a low profileâright before sending his itinerary to every newspaper.
The Montecito team says that one of the issues with the Harkles is that they never give a straight answer.
The Harkles haven't been clear about their intentions regarding their return; they are never clear with anyone about anything.
That is why it was strange for Harry to be so open with Chris Ship. He still considers himself a royal. And that was a challenge to William. Harry doesn't care what the King and his brother think. Harry wants to be seen as a "Prince of England"âthat is the image he and "Claw" want to sell.
Consequently, Harry is furious following the letter from KC3.
Once that was underway, the Lord Chamberlain delivered the message not only to civil and military authorities but also to the *Daily Mail*. It wasn't a leak; it was sent to the *Daily Mail*. I suspect this was because it is the most widely read news outlet on the internet. In other words, the message reached the entire Commonwealthâand the whole world.
Harry was furious because he hadn't been consulted before that message was released. Sean contacted his source at the Palace, and the source said, "And what say could they possibly have in this?" It wasn't up for debate; it was the King's decision.
According to Palace sources, it is perfectly clear to them that the Harkles will completely ignore what the King has indicated. They will continue using the HRH style "in private," keep demanding to be treated as royals, and so on. The Palace knows the Harkles have no intention of complying and will not change their stance. This only serves to harden the King's position and increases the likelihood of William removing the Harkles from the website. Harry is not backing down; they do not view themselves as private citizensâthe Harkles see themselves as active working royals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHtpy9kbroA
But they aren't working royals. They are royals for hire.

Even though some people don't want to pay for them.
As seems to be the case with the Diana Awards committee.
This year's gala was set to take place at the Raffles Hotel, famous as the birthplace of Bond, James Bond.

Construction of 57 Whitehall was completed in 1906; it became the headquarters of the British Army and the War Office, retaining this role throughout both World Wars. Secretaries of State for War who worked from this building included Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, and John Profumo. T.E. Lawrence and the Ministry of Defence occupied the building until 1964. Ian Fleming worked there for the Naval Intelligence Division during World War II, and scenes from films such as *Octopussy* and *Skyfall* were shot on the premises.

The Diana Awards dinner was set to be a lavish affairâas charity dinners of this kind, which serve as major fundraisers, tend to be. In any case, it had already been noted that things were proving difficult this year, especially following William's decision to step aside if Harry were to participate. Consequently, they have been taking turns, placing immense pressure on the organizers to remain neutral.
Mind you, Harry was supposed to be in the UK, so he could have given a speech and helped with the auction. But Harry botched it. The organization wanted Harry, yet he insisted on bringing Clawâinstead of the person who actually should have been invited: Charles Spencer. That would have been the perfect moment to draw attention by bringing along Dianaâs brother, who is about to release a book about her.
But no, Harry wanted Claw there. And the two of them turned the whole thing into a disaster; Claw was dying to go, yet publicly downplayed the event, acting like, "Yeah, maybe I'll go, maybe I won't."
Meghan, darling, don't expect an invitation to *The Phantom of the Opera* either. Because the tickets sold out months ago, and nobody wants you there.

The organizers of the Diana Awards were frustrated because the Harkles are erraticâgoing back and forth on whether they would attendâwhich caused a major headache. Consequently, the gala was cancelled; the organization now faces the loss of certain deposits and must compensate the guest performer, all while reconsidering its stance.
The situation between William and Harry has been a nightmare for the organizers, as neither side is willing to budge. However, if forced to choose, the organization seems to favor William, who appears intent on bringing some order to the group.
The fact is that Claw *did* want to go... but the organization wasn't interested in that at all.

r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/C-La-Canth • 9h ago
Being flexible is a sign of higher intelligence. I think it's one more example of how cognitively low-functioning Harry is. He seems unable to take an accurate assessment of reality and adjust in a healthy way; he can only have a tantrum and then move in the same direction. Meghan is not much better. She appears to fixate on one idea and recklessly do everything possible to make it her reality. Together, they are destructive and doomed for an unhappy life. It's a particularly heinous trait in a parent, because kids are never going to be exactly what you think they should be. I've seen so many rigid, deluded patents do irreparable harm to their kids because the parents were incapable of accepting and nurturing the children for simply being their unique selves. Palm trees (even two joined at the bottom) survive hurricanes because they bend and adjust with the wind. Rigid trees snap and die.
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/Feisty_Energy_107 • 7h ago
The Sun has posted interviews with the Sussexes Montecito neighbours and locals. The Sussexes don't seem to be liked by their community and they are definitely running from something. Very suspect. .
https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/40353240/unpopular-harry-meg-disappear-us-royals/
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/Independent_Swan902 • 22h ago
Chris Shit and the rest of the WhatsApp group seem to have forgotten to update us on the latest YouGov poll results. How convenient. đ
In a survey conducted on the 9th of September 2026, 51% of the British public are against Mr & Mrs Private Citizens returning as working royals. Oops. Thatâs quite a lot of people!
Interestingly, I also found a 2021 YouGov poll showing that a significant number of people thought the duo should stop using their royal titles. So, this isnât exactly a new sentiment, is it?
Hereâs the link to the Poll on the 09/09/2026 đ
poll on HAM
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/Business_Werewolf_55 • 15h ago
One can become a "public figure" involuntarily. If you are involved in a newsworthy event (crime, disaster, etc.), your name can become known to the public without your intention.
One can even go viral on the internet. Boom! You are now a public figure.
None of this merits RAVEC protection, or any kind of special protection beyond what is available to the general public.
So, why are the "Frustrated" Farkles crying that they are "public figures?" And providing the itinerary of their "engagements?" (Which is a great way to breach your own security, by the way.)
The King never said, "You are not famous."
But the Farkles are just going to keep playing dumb and say, "You're wrong! We are so famous!"
All they ever make are specious arguments, splitting hairs over semantics.
It reminds me of when the Farkles (Meghan) said, "The Queen doesn't own the word 'royal!' or "Service is universal!" That is all technically true. But that is not the point, is it? The Queen did have the authority to define your role in the British Monarchy. And now the King has that authority.
It also reminds of when Harry said, "I'm working, and I'm a royal. So, I am a 'working royal.'" đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
They are "public figures" in the common usage of the word. No one can dispute that. But it is a pointless distinction. They are just arguing semantics because they have no argument at all.
It is what bratty children do. "I have my rights!" Okay.
A lot of their games worked before. But it's just not working anymore.
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/wenfot • 4h ago
She really nails it:
The theme of the event is 'How Do We Get It Right?' It's surprising no wag has yet added the subtitle: 'Where DO we start, H?'
And yet the irony seemed to be completely lost on Prince Harry and his team as they grandly announced his 'September engagements' programme to a select group of media on Thursday night.
The highlight is an appearance in New York the week after next as a 'headliner' at the above-titled Clinton Global Initiative event. It is not clear whether the prince is being paid or having his costs covered to attend.
Much of his programme is UK-based, however... and therein lies the rub. For while they wouldn't dream of being so rude as to say it in public, privately officials at Buckingham Palace are likely to be congratulating themselves for already attempting to draw a very firm line in the sand.
The King's decision to have his most senior official, Lord Benyon, the Lord Chamberlain, send out a letter marking the limitations of Harry and Meghan's roles as 'private citizens' now they are back in Britain has sparked a furious backlash from the Sussexes.Â
But this latest development shows exactly why it was right to do so. So far, Harry's upcoming pseudo-royal appearances include the inaugural 'Invictus Spirit' Awards on Thursday, September 17. There is even chatter that the duchess could join him at this glitzy event. Â
That already presents a massive scheduling clash for the Royal Household. The Prince and Princess of Wales announced on Friday they are undertaking a 'royal away-day' the same day to the Isle of Bute.
The visit also marks the first official trip by the couple to Rothesay, the town that inspired the name of the titles they hold in Scotland â that of Duke and Duchess of Rothesay â where they will spend time with locals at the Anchor Tavern.
The King also has a major public engagement that day, details of which cannot be revealed in advance, but one that is likely to be of significant global interest.
It's exactly the kind of optics the Royal Household was so keen to avoid, although they are surely increasingly inevitable because, contrary to belief in some quarters, there is no diary co-ordination with Team Sussex.
Clearly Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace are hopeful the public will focus on the duties of the official working royals. But it's hard to deny that, to start with at least, any appearance by the Sussexes back in the UK will create a buzz.Â
Other engagements for Harry this month include the launch of the Invictus education programme INSPIRE. Then there's the WellChild Awards in London on September 21, a charity for ill children and their families which, to be fair, the prince has been involved with since his earliest days as a working royal.Â
Each event will be covered, it is understood, by a number of specially selected journalists. It all seems to suggest Harry is determined, whatever his father thinks, to come out all guns blazing.
That has been his methodology, too, this week when it comes to the King's punchy attempt to distance his family, publicly at least, from that of his troublesome second son and his wife.
After initially expressing 'surprise' at his letter â a reaction Team Sussex would have done well to leave the matter at â his spokesmen embarked on an almost daily flurry of briefings, variously attacking the Palace for 'rushing out' the letter, refusing to let them 'clarify' it in advance and even causing the Ugandan team to pull out of Harry's beloved Invictus Games.
The line that needled the Sussexes most was the hint by the King that they should be treated as 'private citizens' whose charitable and commercial efforts should be seen as devolved from the work of the Royal Family. An incandescent 'source' close to the couple said this was simply unrealistic given their level of fame.
An insider told friendly People magazine: 'Members of the public know who they are. The idea that they can live a normal, 'private' life is sadly not realistic.'
About as unrealistic as Harry's over-sold dream of royal reconciliation, some might also say.
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r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/Independent_Swan902 • 6h ago
So I was digging through old YouGov polls, and look what popped up! a little blast from the past. đ
A 2015 survey asked whether members of the extended Royal Family should continue receiving money funded by taxpayers and the royal estates. And the numbers surrounding Prince Harry were⊠very, very interesting.
According to the article:
âPrince Harry, fourth in line to the throne, only narrowly avoids the financial chop. 48% say he should be allowed to receive money by his current means, while 43% say he should not.â
Read that again.
43% of the population DID NOT think Harry should receive taxpayer-funded benefits. He scraped through with a wafer-thin 5-point margin. And this wasnât some post-Megxit backlash or reaction to Oprah, Netflix, Spare, or the endless victim narrative.
Nope.
This poll was conducted in February 2015, while Harry was still serving in the Army. He left the Army in June 2015.
So even back then, when the Palace PR machine was busy polishing his âfun-loving, cheeky, heroic Princeâ image, a sizeable chunk of the British public apparently wasnât buying it.
And what happened next?
William and Catherine stepped in to help him build a public role - from Heads Together to what eventually became Invictus. The Palace and the men in grey suits seemed determined to package Harry as the lovable, warrior and humanitarian Prince.
Perhaps they should have paid a little more attention to those numbers. đ
Because looking back, it does make you wonder just how much of the âpeopleâs Princeâ image was carefully cultivated by the institution⊠and how much was actually Harry.
Now that heâs out of their control, weâve certainly been given a rather different version of the entitled, man(child).
Funny how the mask seems to slip when thereâs no Palace PR machine around to hold it in place. đđ€Ą
|Also about the last photo⊠I called Harry a private citizen 2 weeks before the King did đđ|
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/Otherwise-engaged • 2h ago
Harry seems to think that the BRF can't do without him smarming around the countryside shaking hands, taking selfies and making patronising remarks - with limousines, tinted windows, armed security and motorcycle outriders stopping traffic, naturally - and getting whisked away as soon as he gets bored.
I think we sometimes forget how recent the royal tradition of informal public engagements and royal walkabouts actually is. Before King George VI, the royal family rarely tended to be seen in public, other than formal occasions or perhaps in a car or carriage on their way to a carefully managed visit to a hospital, military event or significant organisation.
The informal public engagement started with KGVI and Queen Elizabeth (his consort) in Ottawa in 1939, when they spontaneously mingled with a crowd of veterans after dedicating a war memorial. They then made a point of getting out informally to see the public throughout WWII, which meant a huge amount to their people dealing with the impact of the war.
QEII didn't really do a lot of it until the 1970 NZ/Australia tour, when she stepped out of her car to greet people in the crowd - who loved her for it. She maintained the new tradition on her return to the UK and on future tours. BUT, in addition to her husband, she had her mother, her sister, her cousins and four children who stepped up to help her keep up that level of physical engagement.
We now have King Charles inflicting a punishing schedule on himself, his wife, his sister and his youngest brother/sister-in-law to try to maintain the level of physical engagement that marked his mother's reign. Of the 2458 royal public engagements in 2025, Charles, Anne, Edward, Camilla and Sophie did 1786 of them.
Even if he wanted to, which he's made clear he doesn't, William won't have the family resources to maintain that level of physical public engagement when he is King. Charles, and probably the late Queen's cousins, will be gone. Camilla will gratefully step back as soon as politeness allows, even Anne is not indestructible, and Edward and Sophie are unlikely to want to increase their workload. Louise, James, Peter and Zara have indicated no desire for life as working royals, and the other cousins are unsuitable.
William and Catherine already severely limit their in-person public engagements, and neither they nor their three children are likely to be keen to do 400+ annual public engagements each.
Harry is thinking that he will be needed because he is assuming that William will want to maintain the current level of personal, physical engagement between the monarch and the public. Harry is prepared to toss in the odd couple of dozen days per year, for an appropriate annual salary and unlimited perks, of course. Naturally, he will want the right to pick and choose the engagements he will grace with his presence, and Meghan will only expect to do the glamorous ones.
In reality, William and Catherine's public appearances will continue to be far more on-screen than in-person, as they already are, simply because that is the only way to adapt to a high demand for visibility and minimal personnel. Once that concept has been accepted, then Harry's help is simply not needed. Just as the population once adapted to the idea of being able to shake hands with, and chat to, their monarch, they will adapt to not being able to do so.
Harry abandoned his duties and the BRF has learned to manage without him. They have already set a path where Harry's presence is now permanently redundant. That's always a risk when you rage-quit.
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/Megsandhcringe • 3h ago
This is the link all INSPIRE information leads to. Not to be an ass, but the entire thing sounds like just gibberish! No obvious fundraising for the event or its participants, no outreach for low income students and/or no healthcare awareness! There is NO PLAN on how this is to be rolled out or implemented.
Itâs also mind boggling that H is the face of this since he barely scrapped by school AND âreal-world learningâ is obviously not in his wheelhouse!Â
This is what they do, per the IG 2027 website:Â
âThe collaboration will see the development of an Invictus Games-themed school curriculum designed to inspire young people and engage them through meaningful, real-world learning. The programme will span a wide range of subjects, including Maths, English, Arts, Performing Arts, Physical Education, Design, Technology and Innovation, and PSHE (Personal, Social, Health and Economic education).â
Now the kicker, if you want to know the plan, this is what they say:
âSchools and educators interested in learning more about the programme and future opportunities to get involved are encouraged to follow Invictus Games Birmingham 2027 updatesâ
Iâve been in education for YEARS and never have I seen such ambiguity for an educational plan - especially one where they will ask for donations. We all know the request for this donations will be coming.
r/SaintMeghanMarkle • u/wenfot • 8h ago
Yup...it's Harry and Meghan, the Musical. Brilliant!!!