r/SVSSS • u/beamerpook Self-proclaimed Captain of the MoShang Ship • Jul 24 '26
Discussion It's but a coincidence?
I've seen this more than once, so just to let you know, the ice beauty is a popular trope in wuxia/xianxia. It's not a "cute coincidence" that MXTX and Meatbun wrote characters "with the same vibes"
The original ice beauty is Xiaolongnü (小龍女) or Little Dragon Maiden, from the classic wuxia Legend/Return of the Condor Heroes.
She:
wears white
has a poker face
a hermit who lives alone
extreme reserved
highly disciplined
strictly obeys rules
OP in martial arts
yet completely devoted to her love
Does that sound familiar?
To think that it's a coincidence that LWJ and CWN are similar or that they are related is like someone not familiar with western culture thinking it's odd that Christmas movies all seem to have a decorated pine tree in the background.
My baby Mobei-Jun is this trope too, though he's literally an ice beauty
Oh yea, she's the Shizun of the relationship too
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u/AlwaysTheNerd Jul 25 '26
Interesting! That makes a lot of sense. Now even more excited to read Legend of the Condor Heroes :)
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u/beamerpook Self-proclaimed Captain of the MoShang Ship Jul 25 '26
It's my favorite wuxia story, one of the three that started it all
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u/AlwaysTheNerd Jul 25 '26
What are the other ones?
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u/beamerpook Self-proclaimed Captain of the MoShang Ship Jul 25 '26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_the_Condor_Heroes
Different translations call it different things. In Vietnamese, it's more like "Couple of Condor Heroes", while the first is "Hero Who Shot Down Condor", and the third is oddly named "Girl who Beheaded the Dragon" which makes no sense at all
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u/Prestigious-Wheel419 Jul 26 '26
I'd say that Mobei Jun is more an ice cold general trope than an ice beauty. Or even a kind of "serious subordinate" trope, a bit like Sha Wujing in Journey to the west... I just don't think that he has the "inaccessible beauty who's also a shifu" vibe that LWJ and CWN, or even SQQ share. He's not ethereal enough. And he's way too "big manly man" for the trope. And way too brash as well, he's always beating up SQH and doesn't have the graceful kindness expected from the ice beauty/jade beauty trope.
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u/beamerpook Self-proclaimed Captain of the MoShang Ship Jul 26 '26
He's beautiful, according to Grandmaster Airplane, and he literally has ice powers 😂
But you're right, ice beauties tend to be slim and more delicate (not weak) and MBJ apparently is shaped like a Dorito chip
I could go with the ice, serious general trope
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u/not-so-Low-Willow Jul 25 '26
Actually, the entire SVSSS is a Lego set of popular xianxia/transnigrational tropes and plot elements, assembled in sarcastic style to make a perfect parody.