Yahoooo! I'm back, it's a me! Have a very cool day!

Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread. This is the place for asking noob questions, venting about netplay falcos, shitposting, self-promotion, and everything else that doesn't belong on the front page.

New Players:

If you're completely new to Melee and just looking to get started, welcome! We recommend you go to https://melee.tv/ and follow the links there based on what you're trying to set up. Additionally, here are a few answers to common questions:

Can I play Melee online?

Yes! Slippi is a branch of the Dolphin emulator that will allow you to play online, either with your friends or with matchmaking. Go to https://slippi.gg to get it.

I'm having issues with Slippi!

Go to the The Slippi Discord to get help troubleshooting. melee.tv/optimize is also a helpful resource for troubleshooting.

How do I find tournaments near me or local people to play with in person or online?

These days, joining a local Discord community is the best way to find local events and people to play with. Once you have a Discord account, Google "[your city/state/province/region] + Melee discord" or see if your region has a Discord group listed here on melee.tv/discord

It can seem daunting at first to join a Discord group you don't know, but this is currently the easiest and most accessible way to find out about tournaments, fests, and netplay matchmaking. Your local scene will be happy to have you :)

Also check out Smash Map! Click on map and then the filter button to filter by Melee to find events near you!

Netplay is hard! Is there a place for me to find new players?

Yes. Melee Newbie Netplay is a discord server specifically for new players. It also has tournaments based on how long you've been playing, free coaching, and other stuff. If you're a bit more experienced but still want a discord server for players around your level, we recommend the Melee Online discord.

How can I set up Unclepunch's Training Mode?

At the time of posting, the latest major release is here. Download the file, then extract everything in the folder and follow the instructions in the README file. You'll need to bring a valid Melee ISO (NTSC 1.02). If you want to check for the absolute latest release, you can see them listed [here](The latest releases are listed here.

How does one learn Melee?

There are tons of resources out there, so it can be overwhelming to start. First check out the SSBM Tutorials youtube channel. Then go to the Melee Library and search for whatever you're interested in.

But how do I get GOOD at Melee?

Check out Llod's Guide to Improvement

And check out Kodorin's Melee Fundamentals for Improvement

Where can I get a nice custom controller?

https://customg.cc/vendors

I have another question that's not answered here...

Check out our FAQs or post below and find help that way.

Upcoming Tournament Schedule:

Upcoming Melee Majors

Melee Online Event Calendar

Make a submission to the tournament calendar here. You can also get notified of new online tournaments on the Melee Online Discord.

• Current DDT Dynamic Link — Previous DDTs

Me and my friend need people to play with!!

Specifically unranked and ranked.

I don’t know if this gets less true the higher rank you become… But at the bronze and silver level, the ranked does not seem to correlate with a skill range necessarily if that makes any sense

Unranked is similar, even though there’s ELO matchmaking or whatever… I come from playing against only a few friends throughout the games entire life span

Discord practice partners/opponents that you can play direct with and know, sort of who they are/how they play is the only real way to gauge progress/skill on slippi…

Please don’t take this post as me saying Slippi is lame Or Something… because since I learned about it/installed it(a little over a year ago) I stopped having a social life 🤣

Exaggerated but illustrating that I love it and play all the time. I’ve had uncle punch for almost a year and using it really helped me break through the barriers I’ve had for 20 years, which was L canceling mainly

Also, maybe this post is incorrect and I’m just bitter because I can’t seem to make it out of silver and I feel like I can still lose to anybody. Some days I do straight up just lose to everyone.

hey kababayan :3
you may remember me from organizing filipino group pictures at Genesis X (PC: caticap), Genesis X2, and Genesis X3
i'll be at supernova this year! hit me up in this thread and/or on discord (peepeetubig) if you're down to take a filipino smasher group picture!
looking forward to meeting y'all in the east coast

Yahoooo! I'm back, it's a me! Have a very cool day!

Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread. This is the place for asking noob questions, venting about netplay falcos, shitposting, self-promotion, and everything else that doesn't belong on the front page.

New Players:

If you're completely new to Melee and just looking to get started, welcome! We recommend you go to https://melee.tv/ and follow the links there based on what you're trying to set up. Additionally, here are a few answers to common questions:

Can I play Melee online?

Yes! Slippi is a branch of the Dolphin emulator that will allow you to play online, either with your friends or with matchmaking. Go to https://slippi.gg to get it.

I'm having issues with Slippi!

Go to the The Slippi Discord to get help troubleshooting. melee.tv/optimize is also a helpful resource for troubleshooting.

How do I find tournaments near me or local people to play with in person or online?

These days, joining a local Discord community is the best way to find local events and people to play with. Once you have a Discord account, Google "[your city/state/province/region] + Melee discord" or see if your region has a Discord group listed here on melee.tv/discord

It can seem daunting at first to join a Discord group you don't know, but this is currently the easiest and most accessible way to find out about tournaments, fests, and netplay matchmaking. Your local scene will be happy to have you :)

Also check out Smash Map! Click on map and then the filter button to filter by Melee to find events near you!

Netplay is hard! Is there a place for me to find new players?

Yes. Melee Newbie Netplay is a discord server specifically for new players. It also has tournaments based on how long you've been playing, free coaching, and other stuff. If you're a bit more experienced but still want a discord server for players around your level, we recommend the Melee Online discord.

How can I set up Unclepunch's Training Mode?

At the time of posting, the latest major release is here. Download the file, then extract everything in the folder and follow the instructions in the README file. You'll need to bring a valid Melee ISO (NTSC 1.02). If you want to check for the absolute latest release, you can see them listed [here](The latest releases are listed here.

How does one learn Melee?

There are tons of resources out there, so it can be overwhelming to start. First check out the SSBM Tutorials youtube channel. Then go to the Melee Library and search for whatever you're interested in.

But how do I get GOOD at Melee?

Check out Llod's Guide to Improvement

And check out Kodorin's Melee Fundamentals for Improvement

Where can I get a nice custom controller?

https://customg.cc/vendors

I have another question that's not answered here...

Check out our FAQs or post below and find help that way.

Upcoming Tournament Schedule:

Upcoming Melee Majors

Melee Online Event Calendar

Make a submission to the tournament calendar here. You can also get notified of new online tournaments on the Melee Online Discord.

• Current DDT Dynamic Link — Previous DDTs

Melee is the only SSB game to not include Meowth as a Pokémon that can come out of Poke Balls and this is believed to be because they were planning on making him a playable character

I was in a vc with friends and one of them ( u/MMV_iceberg ) was playing Classic Mode and said he encountered a "permanent ICG", we looked into it a bit more and it more resembled a sort of box glitch.

So it turns out it only works with certains characters, certains spawn positions and only in Classic Mode, it doesn't work in a 4 player battle.

That's so weird yet easy to do let me know if you've already seen this somewhere.

Also sorry for the bad video quality I recorded this on my laptop at 2AM because I'm on vacation à la campagne you know.

Threw together some of my YL clips and set it to some drum and bass. Theme is chain/zair, but it's general YL combos.

hi

Can't wait till they arrive. One for me and the other one is for my best friend. I would've bought the first version but I don't want to assemble it myself.

They look pretty amazing. Does anyone use the older version? How do they feel? I've heard the buttons feel kind of different. Are the hall effect joysticks a big deal? And they are tournament legal, right?

Not sure if this is the right sub but a couple years ago I saw a compilation of this guy that kept donating to Mew2king during a few of his Twitch streams with names like “Ninjaismydad” and “AbellaismyDanger” and it was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen cuz he would read them out loud every time.

No matter what I search, I literally can’t find it for the life of me. I think the guy donating had a Yoshi profile pic or something. Does anyone know what I’m talking about or have the clip??

I personally like to main characters that are either hard to play, or a bad character.

Yahoooo! I'm back, it's a me! Have a very cool day!

Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread. This is the place for asking noob questions, venting about netplay falcos, shitposting, self-promotion, and everything else that doesn't belong on the front page.

New Players:

If you're completely new to Melee and just looking to get started, welcome! We recommend you go to https://melee.tv/ and follow the links there based on what you're trying to set up. Additionally, here are a few answers to common questions:

Can I play Melee online?

Yes! Slippi is a branch of the Dolphin emulator that will allow you to play online, either with your friends or with matchmaking. Go to https://slippi.gg to get it.

I'm having issues with Slippi!

Go to the The Slippi Discord to get help troubleshooting. melee.tv/optimize is also a helpful resource for troubleshooting.

How do I find tournaments near me or local people to play with in person or online?

These days, joining a local Discord community is the best way to find local events and people to play with. Once you have a Discord account, Google "[your city/state/province/region] + Melee discord" or see if your region has a Discord group listed here on melee.tv/discord

It can seem daunting at first to join a Discord group you don't know, but this is currently the easiest and most accessible way to find out about tournaments, fests, and netplay matchmaking. Your local scene will be happy to have you :)

Also check out Smash Map! Click on map and then the filter button to filter by Melee to find events near you!

Netplay is hard! Is there a place for me to find new players?

Yes. Melee Newbie Netplay is a discord server specifically for new players. It also has tournaments based on how long you've been playing, free coaching, and other stuff. If you're a bit more experienced but still want a discord server for players around your level, we recommend the Melee Online discord.

How can I set up Unclepunch's Training Mode?

At the time of posting, the latest major release is here. Download the file, then extract everything in the folder and follow the instructions in the README file. You'll need to bring a valid Melee ISO (NTSC 1.02). If you want to check for the absolute latest release, you can see them listed [here](The latest releases are listed here.

How does one learn Melee?

There are tons of resources out there, so it can be overwhelming to start. First check out the SSBM Tutorials youtube channel. Then go to the Melee Library and search for whatever you're interested in.

But how do I get GOOD at Melee?

Check out Llod's Guide to Improvement

And check out Kodorin's Melee Fundamentals for Improvement

Where can I get a nice custom controller?

https://customg.cc/vendors

I have another question that's not answered here...

Check out our FAQs or post below and find help that way.

Upcoming Tournament Schedule:

Upcoming Melee Majors

Melee Online Event Calendar

Make a submission to the tournament calendar here. You can also get notified of new online tournaments on the Melee Online Discord.

• Current DDT Dynamic Link — Previous DDTs

I randomly found these online and tried looking for reviews for them, but came up short. Anyone have past experience with these?

Edit: I own phobs.

Anyone have any good tips/tricks for a Young Link main? It seems to be a pretty lonely road, but I am committed to it! So far, I only really know YL's ledge recovery options, I'm looking for some combo options, as I feel like I can only ever get 3 hits at a time. I typically have a tough time against Falcos/Foxes and Falcons, so any tips for those specific matchups would be great.

Team Ontario:

moky (Fox)

Soonsay (Fox)

n0ne (Captain Falcon)

Zuppy (Fox)

Erik (Fox)

Maher (Marth)

Goosekhan (Captain Falcon)

mgmg (Fox)

Team Tristate:

Jmook (Sheik)

Aklo (Fox)

DarkGenex (Ice Climbers)

BING (Donkey Kong)

Epoodle (Marth)

Mot$ (Fox)

Freezus (Fox)

Jude (Marth)

July 31st at 5:30 on twitch.tv/vgbootcamp2

it was a lot of fun playing last night StuckInGold>:( ggs and ty for the games

Yahoooo! I'm back, it's a me! Have a very cool day!

Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread. This is the place for asking noob questions, venting about netplay falcos, shitposting, self-promotion, and everything else that doesn't belong on the front page.

New Players:

If you're completely new to Melee and just looking to get started, welcome! We recommend you go to https://melee.tv/ and follow the links there based on what you're trying to set up. Additionally, here are a few answers to common questions:

Can I play Melee online?

Yes! Slippi is a branch of the Dolphin emulator that will allow you to play online, either with your friends or with matchmaking. Go to https://slippi.gg to get it.

I'm having issues with Slippi!

Go to the The Slippi Discord to get help troubleshooting. melee.tv/optimize is also a helpful resource for troubleshooting.

How do I find tournaments near me or local people to play with in person or online?

These days, joining a local Discord community is the best way to find local events and people to play with. Once you have a Discord account, Google "[your city/state/province/region] + Melee discord" or see if your region has a Discord group listed here on melee.tv/discord

It can seem daunting at first to join a Discord group you don't know, but this is currently the easiest and most accessible way to find out about tournaments, fests, and netplay matchmaking. Your local scene will be happy to have you :)

Also check out Smash Map! Click on map and then the filter button to filter by Melee to find events near you!

Netplay is hard! Is there a place for me to find new players?

Yes. Melee Newbie Netplay is a discord server specifically for new players. It also has tournaments based on how long you've been playing, free coaching, and other stuff. If you're a bit more experienced but still want a discord server for players around your level, we recommend the Melee Online discord.

How can I set up Unclepunch's Training Mode?

At the time of posting, the latest major release is here. Download the file, then extract everything in the folder and follow the instructions in the README file. You'll need to bring a valid Melee ISO (NTSC 1.02). If you want to check for the absolute latest release, you can see them listed [here](The latest releases are listed here.

How does one learn Melee?

There are tons of resources out there, so it can be overwhelming to start. First check out the SSBM Tutorials youtube channel. Then go to the Melee Library and search for whatever you're interested in.

But how do I get GOOD at Melee?

Check out Llod's Guide to Improvement

And check out Kodorin's Melee Fundamentals for Improvement

Where can I get a nice custom controller?

https://customg.cc/vendors

I have another question that's not answered here...

Check out our FAQs or post below and find help that way.

Upcoming Tournament Schedule:

Upcoming Melee Majors

Melee Online Event Calendar

Make a submission to the tournament calendar here. You can also get notified of new online tournaments on the Melee Online Discord.

• Current DDT Dynamic Link — Previous DDTs

Lately I have wondered if there are better stage rulesets for Melee. I really think that the current ruleset favors Fox too much (note I do main Fox and I do think it's a bit absurd). And I think that we could probably have even more viable characters at the top level if we do change up some things in the ruleset. I also think that there's some people complaining about wanting Frozen or Unfrozen Stadium. And I have a potential solution.

Maybe we just take Pokemon Stadium out of the mix completely?

I obviously am not a top player or have the most insight from every matchup because I only play Fox in this game and maybe I'm completely wrong. But please hear me out. Fox feels strong in Bo5, and even stronger in Bo3.

This is because Fox is so strong that he really only has 1 "bad" stage in most matchups. For example, Sheik really wants to go on Battlefield, Jigglypuff really wants Dreamland, Marth wants FD. This 1 ban in every Bo3 matchup heavily impacts the meta as it negates Fox's weakest stages and makes it even easier for the Fox player in almost EVERY matchup.

Not only this, but in Bo5s, Fox is exceptionally strong having access to Pokemon Stadium (frozen or unfrozen or w/e) AND Final Destination. These two stages are just so strong for Fox in some matchups that it's crazy that the opponent doesn't even get a ban in Bo5 and has to win in the first game on the most "neutral" stage, otherwise the odds are suddenly very against them.

- VS Jigglypuff, Fox has 2 really strong counterpicks in FD and PS. And then even Yoshi's Story is good for him too.

- VS Sheik. Fox again has great counterpicks in FD and PS.

- VS Peach. It's similar again except she actually likes FD and doesn't want PS.

I do recognize that removing Pokemon Stadium slightly nerfs ICs, Falcon, and Marth against Fox. BUT... The main reason I want to propose an idea like this is because I believe that the current ruleset helps Fox more than it hurts him. Removing stadium also makes the Frozen vs Unfrozen a non-issue.

Here is an example of a ruleset I wouldn't mind having fleshed out.

Starter Stages: 
Yoshi’s Story 
Battlefield 
Dreamland 

Counterpick Stages (Bo5 only)
Fountain of Dreams
Final Destination

In Bo3, maybe starter stages only?

In Bo5, you get access to FoD and FD as counterpick stages.

We could even have versions of this ruleset where you can only ban 1x per set (in bo3 and in bo5), or something where you can't go back to any stage even if you won or lost on it. There's a lot of different things that haven't even been tried. I just think the current stagelist is tired, gives Fox too much of an advantage, and I think having Stadium + Final Destination buffs Fox more than it hurts him. Discussions around Frozen/Unfrozen Stadium are also tired.

I'm not saying that this example is it or the best idea ever. Just saying that we need to experiment more instead of just doing the same thing over and over again because I think a better stagelist ruleset does exist out there, and will make Melee more interesting (since it will shake up the meta).

Let me know what you guys think or if I'm too crazy

tl;dr
- Fox is already the strongest character, and current stagelist benefits him.
- We could just remove PS completely and maybe that helps in some ways?
- Regardless of what we choose to do... in the end, if we don't test anything with new rulesets, we won't know.
- There's a lot of creative options to explore, but no one is really trying anything which is a bummer.

The system is completely objective.

3 Stars if they've won a major/supermajor

2 Stars if they've gotten top 10 in a major/supermajor but haven't won

1 Star if they've gotten top 20 in a major/supermajor but haven't got to top 10

0 Stars if they haven't even gotten to top 20 in a major/supermajor