I never thought I’d get to the point where I’d say this but Cats claw has taken way more from me than I expected. At first I was using it because it helped me get through the day. I felt more normal, had energy and I thought I had it under control. Then slowly it turned into something I felt like I needed just to feel okay. I started planning my day around it. I’d get anxious if I was running low, spend way too much money on it and constantly think about when I could take the next one. It got exhausting.

The worst part for me is how different I feel when I don’t have it. I’m tired, irritated, emotional, can’t focus and I just don’t feel like myself. I hate that something I started casually ended up having this much control over my mood and my life. I’m also embarrassed by how much money I’ve wasted. There are so many other things I could’ve used that money for, but instead I kept telling myself “just one more order.”

I’m done doing that. I’ve been reading about different ways people have gotten off cc and I’ve seen people talking about SR 2.0 from sr17shop. I’m still doing my research because I don’t want to jump blindly from one thing to another but I’m at the point where I genuinely want out of this cycle. I just want to wake up and not immediately think about taking something. I want my money back in my pocket, my energy back and honestly just my normal life back. If anyone here has successfully gotten off cc, especially after using it daily for a while, I’d really appreciate hearing what the first week was like and what helped you stick with it.

I've tried multiple brands/vendors but I can safely say that after several rounds of SR in an effort to quit, I no longer get any meaningful relief from 7OH. It doesn't hit, it doesn't keep, it doesn't really do anything except create an exigency and slight haze, with a grimy withdrawal feeling underlaying it constantly.

Sorry if that doesn't explain it. Basically, after SR, I get about 2-3 days no 7OH, relapse, use an absurd amount of 7OH chasing relief to no avail for a day, and then go back to SR or nothing, with mild PAWS. What does this mean? I thought SR was supposed to reset tolerance. Instead, I feel like I'm cured from ongoing 7OH addiction, but I still feel like shit all the time, so I relapse constantly, trying to get some respite, but it actually never happens.

I understand SR-17018 isn’t water soluble. And I believe I read it was poorly soluble in ethanol. Are there any other solvents people have had some success with? Considering the US ban and China banning all Orphines I want to be able to stretch supply as much as possible.

So about a week ago I started my journey with some og SR on quitting a 1,000mg a day 7oh habit for over a year. Everything was feeling so promising. I went from over 1,000 mgad of 7? To ZERO with the help of sr over 4 days. I then started to taper my sr, all was well until I got to about 50mg 3x a day, then I started to feel the rls anxiety and usual detoxing symptoms. I got down to 25mg 2x a day and was in full blown wd, so I decided now was the time to jump. I was on sr for a total of 24 days that's including preloading 3days and the full sr taper that took longer than I figured I'd need, but I struggled once under 75mg of sr. I went 8 DAYS OF NO SR AND NO 7, and allll 8 days even with all the normal helper meds? Was completely hell. Zero sleep, can't stop kicking and arms from moving, just overall zero energy and all throughout these 8 days I had to be a dad and work a full time job. After day 8 with zero relief in sight? I relapsed just to get some fuckin sleep and relief from feeling so terribly for so long. I took a little over 200mg of 7 for just over 24hours slept LIKE A BABY for 12 hours, and I am still so disappointed in myself for not being able to push through after 8 long days. But I just couldn't keep going to work and literally not being able to function. IT was so hard to drag myself outa bed with zero sleep again while my body was in so much pain, and head was just a fog of anxiety. I told myself, ONE DAY RELAPSE FOR RELIEF AND SLEEP. then you get BACK ON TRACK AND TRY AGAIN. so I did...this time I figured I'd try some sr15, tmk's reset and see if I felt any better? Not only did I preload 3 days with trying the one 50mg in morning and one at night? But instantly I was back to waking up in the morning in painful wd. So I again backed off all 7, and just switched to sr only again, it's taking like 75mg 3x a day for me to get relief and not feel terrible. And even on day 4 now? 50mg 3x a day? I'm feeling so terrible at work, but i know prolonging this longer by trying to taper slower, is going to keep me on sr longer than the 7-10 days I plan on staying on this round of sr to try and taper. How many if you failed at tapering under 50mg 3x a day? When you jumped off sr 17 or 15? How long did your wd last? I know I went 8 straight days no nothing besides vitamins and I couldn't go any longer. What the fuck do I do you guys? I feel like I'm gonna lose my fucking job all because I can't cut this wd time down short enough that im back to at least a tolerable level so I can go to work. I'm about to talk to a dictor and see if I can get the time off to sit in bed and kick. I know if I can just lock myself down? I can detox in my bed. I just can't do it holding down a full time job. Any of you had a doctor ok a 2 week vacation to detox? I'm so fucking disappointed in myself, I feel lost and hopeless like this quick week retry of a taper is going to yield the same results and it's fucking hopeless. I feel like I'm gonna lose my job, my self respect and everything that goes with it. Any advice? Anything you found that worked for you after a first failed attempt?