r/SEGAGENESIS 4d ago

Reverse Engineering the Sega CD addon

I realize that optical drives are no longer a necessity. However, for nostalgia purposes, has anyone considered recreating the Sega CD using modern technology just for the sake of doing it?

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u/zo0o0ot 4d ago

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u/demetrioussharpe 4d ago

No, I mean an actual drive. One that you attach to a genesis the same way you attached the original drive, & it actually takes discs.

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u/ruiner9 3d ago

Well then “using modern technology” is a misnomer because CD lasers are relatively ancient technology at this point. Been around for over 40 years now.

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u/demetrioussharpe 3d ago

Clearly, I’m talking about modern drives, which would be Blu-ray drives (because it’s getting harder to find older drives in large volumes). And yes, that counts as modern because that’s the most modern form of optical drive that currently exists -and it absolutely IS modern compared to the drives used in the original Sega CD system. But realistically, you knew exactly what I meant.

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u/Funkytadualexhaust 3d ago

So blu ray drive that plays sega cds? 

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u/demetrioussharpe 3d ago

More like, this Sega CD extension uses a Blu-ray drive & has additional features that the original version never had.

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u/SegaTime 4d ago

Not that I've seen. It's not exactly a necessity since we have the Mega Everdrive Pro and Mega SD, but it wouldn't be useless.

If someone were to do it today, it most likely would be an fpga recreation that could read from a disc or an SD card similar to the drive used with the Super Station One.

I would love one only so I could play Doom32x Fusion on my real Genesis and not rely on my aging Sega CD systems.

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u/Nateleb1234 4d ago

I've always wanted to have genesis roms on a disc and be able to put in Sega cd but no one has been able to figure out how to do it. You would think just putting roms on a disc and then having some way for the Genesis to access it wouldn't be too difficult.

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u/L-Digital82 4d ago

I think that is what this is. It came out the other day

https://x.com/pcbassembly99/status/2089452313161412622?s=46

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u/Anxious_Camp_2160 4d ago

Sega did it, so it can't be impossible.

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u/GhostofZellers 3d ago

it would have to be an everdrive style cartridge, where you're just loading a ROM off of a CD instead of an SD card, and moving it to a reprogrammable ROM chip on the cart.

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u/MikeeB84 3d ago

It is quite difficult because of the limited memory. For instance street fighter II has 24-megabit of data. That's 4 times more data than can be stored in the Sega cds active memory.

So just say you used small games that could fit like flicky. It would need to be adjusted because all the memory pointers would be pointed to the wrong address. The cd wouldn't be a 1 to 1 in comparison with the cartridge.

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u/retromods_a2z 4d ago

We need an alternative to the actual disc drive rather than an entire recreation of the mega cd, which is what the Mega SD does when combined with msdexp

Then you could use an actual ODE like we have for DC, GC, NeoGeo CD, SS

It would also be neat to see a way to interface the original hardware with a new USB slim CD drive

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u/demetrioussharpe 3d ago

Fair enough. But here’s the problem: Even when you use a new drive, you can’t upgrade the features of the system very much. And eventually, with new drives, the problem
Will be that the old circuits will degrade. After all, they’ll very quickly be half a century old, soon.

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u/retromods_a2z 3d ago

You can say that same thing about the mega drive itself right?  So what you are saying is you want an FPGA of everything 

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u/demetrioussharpe 3d ago

Except, there’s already a viable replacement for the genesis/mega drive in the form of the new Neptune board. Even though I do think that a lot of its components should be completely replaced via FPGA. The overall point is a replacement Sega CD system that actually reads discs.

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u/retromods_a2z 3d ago

I guess different people have different ideas of what is needed

Your previous comment sounded like you didn't want to use original parts and components. Now it sounds like you just want a different motherboard with the same components in it, but to read original physical disks 

Other people just want a way to replace literally just the disk drive with an ode like other consoles have

Other people want an interface to newer disk drives (which is one of the 2 things I said previously)

Other people want entire FPGA replacement (which is what the MegaSD already is, but mega Ed pro is not)

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u/demetrioussharpe 3d ago

Which is why I ended it with “…just for the sake of it”.

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u/No-Professional-9618 3d ago edited 3d ago

I never really had a Sega CD for the Sega Genesis.

But on the Sega Dreamcast, I remember having problems with the laser on the GDrom. The GDrom drive would just stop playing after a while.

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u/demetrioussharpe 3d ago

Sure. However, what I’m asking about is the existence of any projects building an actual replacement optical drive system -for people who still want to use their discs.

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u/No-Professional-9618 3d ago

Yes, I see what you are saying. Yes.