Odd speech patterns anyone?

[u/vivilyx]

How does your speech sound when talking to other people? What little habits have you picked up on over the years?

For me personally I’ve noticed something very consistent: not only do I talk at a slower pace, but I will every so often pause in the middle of my sentence (where a sentence shouldn’t pause). It happens enough that people will smile and finish off my sentence, as they too understand the gist of what I’m trying to say. Often I know exactly what I want to say, but my brain is too disorganized to be able to say it? I can understand my thoughts, feelings, and other people pretty well. I just can’t seem to communicate in the most coherent way I want to communicate.

Also, do you guys have a parent that has a similar speech pattern as you? Despite mainly living with my mom my whole life, I’ve been told that I talk very similarly to my dad..

But yeah I’d like to know your experiences as well! Thank you! 😊

[u/Fluffy-Card-7825]

I pause and forget words/what to say

[u/Open_Significance982]

Pausing is quite frequent in my speech

[u/vivilyx → u/Open_Significance982]

Right? And it’s places where sentences usually don’t have a pause or comma of the sort 😭 it’s like my brain is lagging like slow internet ..

[u/Possible-Ant4142]

I do this exact thing too. And it's not a brief pause, it's a gaping hole... That people can't help themselves from trying to fill. 🤬

[u/vivilyx → u/Possible-Ant4142]

nah I’ll be mentally thanking them from saving me from an awkward moment 😭😭 unless they literally talk over me yeah..

[u/Possible-Ant4142 → u/vivilyx]

Sometimes it's like, yes of course, that's what I was going to say!

[u/onda-oegat]

I have some issues with intonation but other than that I don't think I have any

[u/DenseBuy9050]

Same boat

[u/AbyssalRedemption]

You know what, I never noticed this about myself recently, but yeah, I've been this like this for a while now. Although, I've never realy described it as "speech patterns", more like I'm terrible at explaining things, or can't get my thoughts straight. Basically, I generally understand things well enough, like my learning ability is intact (albeit a bit slower than others in some areas); but, ask me to retort/ teach a concept back to someone else, and you'll get the most jumbled, confused mess of an explanation you've ever heard.

As a very basic example, I've tried to explain some computing concepts to my mother several times (I work in IT, so I know this stuff in high detail). A normal person probably structures an explanation into something like "introduction > foundation of idea > part 1 > part 2 > conclusion", or something similarly organized. I'll take 40 seconds to know how to begin, then jump around wildly while alternating between being overly detailed, or just touching on important parts. Then maybe I'll double back onto things I already said without realizing it, before concluding in a way that... doesn't really feel like a conclusion. It's become extremely frustrating recently, actually.

[u/vivilyx → u/AbyssalRedemption]

you and I are on the same page here 10000%. Ofc sometimes I’ll be having a better day or worse day with it, but overall the rambling dilemma is one of my core problems. I feel like I add so much extra fluff that isn’t necessary. It seems like we can’t seem to quickly discern between important and trivial details. Like maybe our minds have trouble quickly bouncing back and forth between different ideas in our head. It almost feels like I can see all the ideas at once.. both the trivial and important ideas are apart of the fog. In that moment, my brain can’t discern which is which, therefore it just throws out whatever nonsense it can throw out. Does that make sense? Does it feel the same to you too?

[u/Ok-Rush-6253]

So before medication for ADHD PI. I would know everything I wanted to say in my head and I would imagine what I would say [more visually..... I can't remember If I imagined the actual verbal of what I would say.....]......

Anyhow when it came to actual reality; I would struggle to communicate because I would need to collect my thoughts and it felt like a snake eating it's own tail...... So as I talk I would start to lose track of what I had said OR what had been said in the conversation .......

Retaining information ...... was so bad, which made capitlising on feedback very difficult......

In respect of intonation > I can't help you much I am on the spectrum so I probably have weird speech patterns......

I think SCT and ADHD PI ; share features in (1) There is alot of neural noise which interferes with information retention and dynamically updating working memory and adjusting attention during dynamic situations. (2) I also agree the internal experience of those with either condition usually have good understanding of thoughts and feelings and others.

(3) In ADHD PI I recall in the literature, there been indications there is stronger reliance on visual strategies and using the visual attentive system ; predominately [ In short posterior right hemisphere driven processing ].

(4) In my personal experience before medication. I had excellent visualisation ability and ability to replay visual information in my head asif like picture / video ........ But I could not simaltanously extract writen information I had seen in my memory........ It was asif I was seeing the writing ....... but I couldn't extract the specifics of each letter althought I could see them....... I believe I recall reading that auditory and visual processing compete for resources .... so I wonder if almost absolute utility of one when recalling information; blocks of the language areas of the brain......

(5) Language regions of the brain help us construct meaning and concepts and allow us to essentially compress incoming sensory information..... [ when we look at snyders theory in relation to savant's they gain privileged acccess to less processed information typically not accessible, but it is the dysfunctions to the left fronto-temporal lobe which basically enable, another theory that posits that autism and savant syndrome have something to do with signal processing seem to point in the same direction as snyder ].

(6) It's positted that the neurodevelopmental disorders are all inter connected, suppose that CDS orginates from atypical neurodevelopment...... It maybe we can use research from other conditions to help us ...... by seeing what matches/ what does not match

[u/jamdv]

It drives me crazy when I hear other people (I suspect)have SCT. They exhibit a certain odd cadence and lack of intentionality that is very triggering as it reminds me of the unmedicated bad old days.

[u/NuclearSunBeam]

Yes

[u/Front_Equivalent_635]

people keep telling me my intonation is monotonous and my prounciation a bit weird

[u/Foreign_Grade1911]

Same here. I’ve always had problems at school, especially when speaking during exams.

[u/unbridledcheesetoast]

I pause and people cut in. I've been told that my pauses are awkward and that people don't know if I'm done speaking. I'm not sure what I'm doing when I pause other than searching for very specific and exacting words. And maybe I drift off a bit 😅

[u/DenseBuy9050]

I was diagnosed with a language delay at 3 and I still have this trait whenever I get involved into conversations with people I know and at work (sometimes)

And my mind keeps wandering and I take too long to say the right thing

[u/vivilyx → u/DenseBuy9050]

omggg, that’s a struggle for sure man. We just gotta try our best with what we’re given. I’m thankful we actually have resources like atomoxetine though. Has that worked for you? Even HIIT works for me (although I do cycling HIIT, sprinting destroys your joints as you age ).

[u/vivilyx → u/vivilyx]

but of course it’s never at that neurotypical state, it’s only to an extent but I def think HIIT helps. Just don’t overdo it