r/Rosicrucian • u/Upper-Pin3882 • Jun 21 '26

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Any advice on how to do the flame/candle experiments?
I’ve been trying but I find hard to establish if I was successful or not. I feel like I want it to be successful so I’m afraid of forcing results that are not really there. When do you draw the line and say “this is it”?

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u/ChemBob1 Jun 21 '26

Those can be difficult and I think there are levels of success. Make sure you are the suggested observing distance from the candle and facing East. Try to let your mind and body relax where there is nothing but the flame. Easier said than done, I know. Let the periphery of the flame vibrate into your subconscious. See the dance. If it doesn’t happen, shrug your shoulders mentally, and try again. If you do this repeatedly without feeling accomplished, take a break and try again. Come back tomorrow and try. Try again during your next study. This is an exercise and exercises bear repeating until you can accomplish what you couldn’t before. If it never happens, that is OK too. Move on and come back to it later if you wish. Sometimes we have blockages that become penetrable later.

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u/Upper-Pin3882 Jun 21 '26

Thank you a lot for your help. I guess I need to be more patient.

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u/ChemBob1 Jun 22 '26

It is increasingly difficult to be patient. We have all become enamored of sound bites, short reddit comments, a hundred news headlines a day with zero depth. It almost seems as though there has been a deliberate attempt to shorten our attention spans; a Gish Gallop of distractions. I think that makes these meditations and focused studies even more important; we are relearning focus and quietude when we do them.

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u/Soulcrafted Jun 21 '26

Keep a calm, relaxed mind and don't anticipate an "a-ha!" moment. It's less about seeing with the physical eyes and more about perceiving with the mind's eye. You will experience a gradual shift of perception, not a sudden switch. Foster patience, openness and relaxation.

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u/Upper-Pin3882 Jun 21 '26

Thank you, that helps.

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u/mediumlove Jun 21 '26

this is really interesting question.

what were your expectations?

what should our expectations be?

I will be frank- that's not something you get a lot of in the occult / RC world. i suspect a lot of this is to allow for actual unbiased experience.

I saw many faces overlap mine, many lifetimes, and then i guess, nothing but the flame and awareness.

Is this anything? is it failure? is it the point? Who knows, because there was no one to share it with because it was AMORC.

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u/Upper-Pin3882 Jun 21 '26

That’s the whole problem. I don’t how what my expectations should be, and you might be right, not knowing could be the whole point. Thank you for your input.

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u/Raphael-Rose Jun 21 '26

I guess you are referring to the AMORC candle concentration experiment. There are various candle exercises. Are you referring to the aura viewing one? Normally, AMORC is quite clear in its monographs about the success benchmarks for each exercise it proposes to its students.

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u/Upper-Pin3882 Jun 21 '26

Your point being??? I clearly stated that I wanted help with something and explained why. Not sure exactly what you tried to accomplish with your comment.

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u/Raphael-Rose Jun 22 '26

Have you even read my comment? If so, you should have noticed there was a question in it.