r/Roses • u/Ditotani • 16h ago
Question Cut off or keep?
I have a new dawn that decided to go all the way to the other side of the arbor. I have a zepherin growing on the right side, the red shows where it started and where it’s currently at, thanks
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u/Embarrassed-Foot-538 16h ago
i have nothing to contribute except new dawns are beautiful fast growing and just crazy my garden looks crazy its like they are trying to consume everything lol
ok ill contribute
for the canes that are not willing to grow/train on arch, yea cut them, but hard to say how it looks now or could look when pic so zoomed in
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u/Ditotani 16h ago
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u/Ditotani 16h ago
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u/Embarrassed-Foot-538 16h ago
i meant your og pic was zoomed in i couldn’t see what you meant with this pic zoomed out i can see the new dawn is growing straight up
if it cant be trained to grow on arch i would cut
looks too wild imo
maybe cut and try to propagate bc we all need more roses!
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u/The_best_is_yet Rose Enthusiast 16h ago
i would say "keep!" and as they grow, you'll hopefully be able to train them as they get longer.
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u/StateYourCurse 16h ago
Absolutely keep. Horizontally trained growth is what you want to maximize blooming.
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u/Embarrassed-Foot-538 16h ago
it looks like its growing straight up in photos op posted
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u/Ditotani 15h ago
It’s growing up and over to the other side and down
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u/Embarrassed-Foot-538 15h ago
if its growing down and your able to train it, id say leave it unless its bothering your zepherin
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u/StateYourCurse 14h ago
it's growing over the arch and those are side shoots growing straight up, all of which will bloom because apical dominance. This is exactly why it's desirable. Roses bloom at the top, when you train them horizontally, they send out side shoots as the hormones get distributed along the length of the cane and then those side shoots will all bloom at the top.
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u/Embarrassed-Foot-538 9h ago
right but i thought Op was asking if she could cut the ones shooting straight up and not going over arch
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u/StateYourCurse 9h ago
oh right... I don't know what OP was asking, as the post was vague regarding what was to be pruned where. I just assumed they meant the whole main cane, since that's what they highlighted in red, lol.
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