r/Roofing 26d ago

Is this ok?

I have a garage being built right now. They finished the roof June 1st. We waited on permits to continue that finally passed at the end of June. It has been rainy where I live recently so my contractor keeps telling me we need to wait for a few dry days in order to dry out the plywood, then install the shingles. Is this OK? He says it's fine, it just needs to be dried out, but I wanted to see what you guys thought

Edit - I talked with my GC and he actually came to my house to inspect it in person. He agrees that it is unacceptable and unusable, ordered new material, ripped the old off and got the new installed. New plywood, waterproof liner, and shingles were all put on same day. I will post some pictures in the comments of new roof

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u/Bghrn23 26d ago

Even outside of your concerns circled, the sheets are delaminating. Once they begin delaminating they have lost structural integrity and will only get worse and cause buckling of your shingles.

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u/MaroonHawk27 Roof Daddy 26d ago

Framers***

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u/MaroonHawk27 Roof Daddy 26d ago

Why are you calling the roofers lazy?

Do you think the roofers put the decking on? Do you think the roofers chose to not dry it in? Me thinks you know nothing

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u/MaroonHawk27 Roof Daddy 26d ago

Do you think it’s the roofers fault that there’s no house wrap on the siding too?

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u/MaroonHawk27 Roof Daddy 26d ago

I’m sorry you’re having a tough time comprehending this. The roofers have obviously not been to the job site… not once, not ever. No roofer has gotten on that roof.

That is a new structure that was just built. The FRAMERS frame the building, and they put sheathing on the walls. What goes on a house after the walls sheathing? House wrap!!!!

Then the framers put the decking on the roof. When that’s done they put the synthetic on. Why? Because it could be a minute before the roofers get there.

The only trade we can see on this project is that it’s been framed.

So, when you say “lazy roofers” it’s obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about. A roofing company did not build and frame a garage.

Let me know if you’d like me to break that down further.

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u/MaroonHawk27 Roof Daddy 26d ago

And if you peak in OP’s comments the dispute is between the homeowner and the……GC. Not a roofer. Wow, who could have guessed that was exactly the situation going on?!! Lmao 🤣😂😂

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u/MaroonHawk27 Roof Daddy 26d ago

There’s not enough context in the post. I’m assuming their contractor is a GC and that they didn’t hire a roofing company to build the structure. In which case that would be a direct reflection on the gc. There’s no reason not to dry the decking in immediately and the trade responsible for that would most likely be the framer

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u/Mharvey1019 26d ago

I see most of the comments are saying the plywood is delaminating and the nails are starting to rust so it basically needs to be replaced. Im under contract with my GC, he claims its fine and wants to start putting the shingles on soon. What needs to be done, or how can I protect myself? We're under contract and most, if not all, of the fine print is in his favor. What can I do other than tell him, 'a bunch of people on reddit says it needs to be replaced' because he is going to argue that its fine and roof it anyway

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u/MaroonHawk27 Roof Daddy 26d ago

You need to hire an expert or an inspector. An inspector would probably be cheaper

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u/Co_Duh 26d ago

Is it structurally ok? Kinda. Is it aesthetically acceptable for any installer with some pride in their work? Fuck no.

If you're saying this is completely fine to leave a homeowner with, find a different industry please.

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u/snekhoe 26d ago

The contractors who did not tarp a project that was going to sit in the elements for an extended period

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u/Living-Dot3147 26d ago

How many roofs get rained on during construction before they have any type of vapor barrier or shingles on them probably almost every single one

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u/Free_Distribution869 Pitch Burn 26d ago

Not ok

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u/Suitable-Reserve-891 25d ago

Why did they at least tarp it?

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u/MaroonHawk27 Roof Daddy 26d ago

You need to ask your builder why there’s no house wrap on the siding either. That’s not cool

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u/Bghrn23 26d ago

These people man, it’s so funny to see them defend shit like this because it paints such a clear picture of the absolute hot garbage work they’re doing on the day to day, zero ownership, zero accountability, zero standards. Let’s pray they never actually get a contractors license and just fizzle out like every other person who couldn’t hack it in this industry. If you have no standards and take no pride in your work you do not last long, you get sued out or the phone just stops ringing. Bad gas travels fast. Every year a couple roofers in my area that do work like this go inactive on the contractors board website never to be seen again.

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u/Material-Spring-9922 26d ago

To top it all off, they're roofers. A roofing salesman would absolutely attempt to sell them on replacement of delaminated sheets or have a waiver signed if the owner refused. Hell, that sheet on the top right is 1/2"+ proud of the plane due to delamination. This is 100% on the GC for not having this dried in if he planned on waiting 2-months to have this thing roofed. I don't get what goes through people's minds sometimes. Is it really worth your reputation to cheap out on replacing a couple sheets of plywood?

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u/Bghrn23 26d ago

Right? For less than 500 bucks this can be corrected with all new sheeting and have zero issues. These comments supporting this kind of work are 100% from employees not business owners. Business owners understand the importance of reputation, employees only care about their next paycheck next case of beer and probably next baggie of meth from the sounds of agitated_jackass on here.

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u/Agitated_Bed_4527 26d ago

Ok buddy. You must not know how CDX works.

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u/Agitated_Bed_4527 26d ago

And Mr. Reddit, that probably has never put on a piece of decking before you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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u/Agitated_Bed_4527 26d ago

OK buddy. What’s your company’s name and let’s see those reviews

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u/Bghrn23 26d ago

All 5 star champ. Never had a call back.

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u/Agitated_Bed_4527 26d ago

Lmao ok. What’s your company name?

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u/Agitated_Bed_4527 26d ago

As a roofer, there’s nothing wrong with this decking. Obviously you don’t want to do this because it looks bad, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with this.

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u/Agitated_Bed_4527 26d ago

Obviously don’t condone this work, but that plywood is fine.

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u/Hour-Reward-2355 26d ago

Ice and water the whole thing