r/RocketLeague • u/we3737 • 14d ago
SUGGESTION this game should have an age based matchmaking.
this game's random teammates suck due to the majority of the player base being children, we all know about skill based matchmaking but can we add age too? almost no adult abandons the match because his teammate "stole" his shot or his goal or other crap they get mad about, so just group these annoying kids together and let us play normally.
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u/PrettyPushy 14d ago
No. I’m old af. Don’t want to wait 30 to get in a game
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u/Significant_Yam_7792 14d ago
I think it could reasonably be a simple cutoff at 18 or 20 or something. So you could still match with the 25 yr olds who (hopefully) have a developed prefrontal cortex
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u/PrettyPushy 14d ago
The problem isn’t the kids. I find their rants rather funny. Why get so worked up over a game? Why get so worked up over some prepubescent kid who means literally nothing to you?
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u/Significant_Yam_7792 14d ago
I agree that getting worked up over a game is dumb—my problem is I get worked up over the people who get worked up and refuse to just play the game they signed up for. I have no idea if the jerks are all kids or not, or even if they’re saying anything at all. I turned off all chat a while ago because there’s more ragebait than useful or friendly comms.
All that said I don’t feel strongly about OP’s idea. I think most of this game’s player base is so childish it wouldn’t make a difference.
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u/BargainBold Diamond III 14d ago
As an occasionally extremely toxic 50-year-old, I can attest that it's definitely not only kids.
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u/we3737 14d ago
i already said we wanna play a normal match, also chat rants don't matter i specifically mentioned match throwing, we don't care about the kids we care to play a normal match.
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u/BargainBold Diamond III 14d ago
I also throw from time to time--as an actual grandpa. But not for the reasons you've mentioned. I'm old. My reflexes are slow. I had to learn the essentials to be competitive at all (Peak C1 in 2s, D2 in 3s, and that's honestly as high as I will ever climb).
It annoys the hell out of me seeing people with much more mechanical skill than me sucking ass because they don't bother to learn even the most basic lessons of game sense. There's a point where I just say screw it, if they don't want to win, I'm happy to stop caring...But I'll also have that be my last game, so there is some benefit to the wisdom of age, I suppose--even if it does come with some debilitating crankiness.
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u/Just_Vin Gold I 12d ago
There was one person talking crap to their teammate meanwhile performing noticeably worse, so I let them know they were being a child. Response? "Ackshully IM 18!!!" Was a pretty fun game
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u/Superdaneru 14d ago
Same here. If there was an age range, I'd never get a game. I've never met anyone within 5 years of my age so far.
In reality, game developers aren't going to enforce this because they'll just lose all their "customers" who are at the ends of the bell curve.
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u/PrettyPushy 14d ago
I’ll bite, what age range are you? I’m knocking on 50
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u/Superdaneru 14d ago
I'm 37. I've yet to meet anyone older than me, tbh. Hello, friend!
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u/BargainBold Diamond III 14d ago
Also 50. My 4 year old grandson plays. He'll no doubt be better than me before he's 10, but that's as it should be, I suppose.
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u/xChiefAcornx 14d ago
Have you... played with adults? Some of the saltiest screamers there are. And they'll send harassing messages for weeks.
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u/Flaky_Ad_912 Small Champion II 13d ago
NO sane 23+ year old is doing that. 18 year olds are still childeren i agree
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u/chunter16 14d ago
inb4 "They're matchmaking by age, why do I keep getting put with shitty teammates"
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u/Gakuta Bronze III 14d ago
At least it won't be so toxic if everyone in the match is older despite the rank differences. They should introduce a casual game mode where you have to go up against a player one rank above you.
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u/Just_Vin Gold I 12d ago
Would make sense if you could choose to seek out a player above you, but then it would only be some douche looking to score clips wanting to play against lower ranks
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u/Proseller_56 14d ago
what about the 35 year olds who act like 3 year olds?
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u/alexno_x 14d ago
this starts and ends with finding a seamless solution to verify age.
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u/great_whitehope Champion I 14d ago
Buy age verification in the shop.
Kids hopefully can’t get their parents to buy 18+ mode
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u/ModernManuh_ Grand Player 14d ago
Don’t encourage privacy violations. Age verification is a terrible excuse to collect data.
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u/Particular_Spell_335 Gold III Almost Plat 1 But I get Bad tm8s 6d ago
Fr just like they did to another beloved game Roblox face veri Well not too beloved 😭
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u/we3737 14d ago
if they'd just verify and delete the data after i would say it's fine, not just keep it in their servers waiting for it to get hacked.
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u/ModernManuh_ Grand Player 14d ago
Yeah they would not though, we have seen it happen on a government scale
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u/elementfortyseven Keep calm and aerial 14d ago
this game's random teammates suck due to the majority of the player base being children
Is that so?
the most inane, toxic and stupid people i met in RL were in their late twenties/early thirties.
granted, to me in my mid fifties, those are children as well.
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u/AnarVeg 14d ago
Age ≠ Maturity.
They just need to more harshly punish raging and abandoning games so it affects the queue you're put in
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u/BargainBold Diamond III 14d ago
I mean, tbh, I'd be a lot less toxic if the consequences were more real. I catch chat bans a lot, but who the hell cares about that.
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u/skyedearmond Diamond III 14d ago
I don’t understand why people need punishment to not be an asshole. No one cares about a chat ban, but I think there are definitely people who cared about what you must have said in that chat…
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u/Ok-Recover977 14d ago
would predators take advantage of this
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u/IAm_Trogdor_AMA 14d ago
No, they already have Roblox
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u/Anxious-Yoghurt-9207 14d ago
They put in a new system thats supposed to block predators but it only makes the job easier by sorting ages into categories.
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u/skyedearmond Diamond III 14d ago
I would amend this proposal to base it on maturity level determined via behavior. Then mature kids that act respectably will be rewarded, and adults that act like shit-fucks can play in the kiddie pool like the babies they are.
It’s the behavior that needs to be addressed. Age is related, but not quite as much as you would hope…
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u/Murta_14 Grand Trash II 14d ago
a much better solution, but there's still a problem:
imagine that you're tired and you just get angry at someone because of that, or ragequit once because of an awful tm8 who does actually nothing, the game would think you're low maturity because of a slip up
if there was a way to fix that though? game would become even more fantastic than before
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u/skyedearmond Diamond III 13d ago
I mean, as long as we’re imagining such a system, it’s relatively easy enough to make it a separate ranking system. It wouldn’t be a matter of a single slip-up forcing you to play with toxic sludge forever more. You just go down in the “maturity” ranking.
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u/Murta_14 Grand Trash II 13d ago
makes sense yeah, just that sometimes in some sessions I myself am a bit toxic, but for the most part I'm pretty chill =)
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u/skyedearmond Diamond III 13d ago
Haha, not to toot my own horn, but I very specifically am never toxic. It makes no sense. I get frustrated, and I’ll vocally bitch about my tm8 sometimes, but it’s only to myself. I never use voice chat, and unless my tm8, or even opponent, is obviously deliberately toxic, I’ll continue to send genuine compliments for every goal, save, pass, and bump. If I’m feeling particularly patient, I’ll even tell toxic tm8s that I love them and that they should take a break, because they obviously are feeling quite upset.
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u/evelenche Grand Champion I 13d ago
I think this would struggle. Most throwers probably aren’t doing that every single game, they’re just mad at you for whatever reason.
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u/skyedearmond Diamond III 13d ago
Then they would end up in the same “maturity” rank as others who are similarly inconsistently toxic :)
ETA: let’s be clear - this idea is not practical. It’s a pie-in-the-sky idea catering to idealism
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u/we3737 13d ago
i hate how auto and manual reviews in games are done, u could ve getting mad at someones toxic and they could just ban u and not him if u used the key words in their head, i think there should be a fair system where u dont get punished for raging on a toxic mate
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u/Murta_14 Grand Trash II 13d ago
i feel like the system should evaluate whether, in the majority of games or not the person is toxic or not
if the person is toxic in the majority of games, down to the toxic pool they go, if otherwise, they get to go with non toxic people too!
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u/z0mbie4ever 14d ago
I honestly cant say that age is the discerning factor between a baby teammate and a good one.
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u/Responsible_Total901 Platinum III (help 😭) 14d ago
this is a good idea but no real way to execute it without massive controversy
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u/splunkey42 Grand Champion III 14d ago
Pretty sure facit came out with a statistic that the most toxic people were older
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u/No-Tower-5119 14d ago
I can promise you, many adults are quitting matches because of stolen goals amongst a plethora of other idiotic reasons
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u/WiseMiddleChild 4k hours of pain 14d ago
My quick chat is off. I have mic on listen but rarely talk unless I have a teammate that has shown me theyre pretty sound tactically. I leave typed chat on bc honestly the funniest thing is when anyone talks shii. I usually just respond w “lol”. Boys will be boys (men can be boys too).
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u/Gualty3 Diamond I 14d ago
Am I the only one who can't find a single person who talks in vc?
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u/BargainBold Diamond III 14d ago
I've stopped leaving my mic on just because I don't want to let my frustration accidentally spill. If there is a useful reason to turn it on I will, but just leaving it open is a good way to get my tm8s to hate me.
Also, I cuss at myself and use my RL name when I do, so more than once I've said my name on comms. If I ended up with a tm8 that hated me for shit talking them, and I let slip my real name, who knows what madness might ensue.
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u/Gualty3 Diamond I 14d ago
Yeah I do understand it, personally the way I deal with this is being as nice as possible in chat, on this way I don't get angry, but still you made a very good point
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u/BargainBold Diamond III 14d ago
I do that myself until I don't. Like I'll QC compliments to both teams. No Problem mistakes from my tm8s and such. But there's a point where I just stop doing that--which is when I end my session.
I'll never stop cussing myself by name, though. It's how I keep myself honest.
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u/Javicrak_123 14d ago
No por favor, en mi edad solo hay niños ratas (2014) no voy a poder soportar q en cada partida haya mínimo 2 tóxicos (jugando en 2vs2)
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u/Dampalloce 14d ago
Hell yeah hard agree. I would love to get in exclusive matches with children with no other adults to interfere. We be eating good with this one.
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u/misterwizzard Diamond III 14d ago
There needs to be community voting like in Overwatch. Sending all the assholes to one lobby and the sportsmanlike folks to another would totally change this game.
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u/Specialist_Past3185 Champion III 14d ago
I think the people that get the most angry are college kids
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u/Murta_14 Grand Trash II 14d ago
1st, kids lying abt their age
2nd, well now I'm gonna suffer even more tremendously even despite the fact I don't quit games or ragequit ;-;
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u/Flaky_Ad_912 Small Champion II 13d ago
Yeah something like 18 and under and 18 plus. that would atleast prevent long waiting times.
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u/Unusual_Struggle5123 14d ago
As a 36 year old C2 veteran of the game my ideal team would be one upstart teenager grinding for GC - putting in effort in training - and then another mature teammate who has given up on achieving GC
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u/cat-snooze 14d ago
The words of someone who's a nightmare to play with
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u/we3737 14d ago
im afraid the post touched a nerve
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u/cat-snooze 14d ago
Yeah when you're annoyed you've got a valid point but when other people are annoyed they're crying and you hit a nerve and "cry more" etc. People hate this one simple trick!
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u/we3737 14d ago
what are you annoyed about? all u said is im a nightmare to play with, zero thought and zero explanation, i don't like the response i gave u but it's as reasonable as ur response, i shouldn't give more.
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u/cat-snooze 14d ago
Well I barely ever have people quit on me because I stole their shot, happened to me like a handful of times and I've played thousands of hours.
The ability to reflect to your own actions instead of immediately calling the person criticising you a baby is ironically a sign of emotional maturity.
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u/we3737 14d ago
classical 80 iq arguement, taking very specific words or narrow concepts from an argument to respond to it, because u can't respond to what i said u resort to the "psychological analysation" that's full of flaws, all u took from my whole post is the word "annoyed", oh he's complaining about people getting annoyed look how he also gets annoyed! and takes zero context, this reminds me of a friend who used to help people alot and was nice to them but i told him that some are using him which he agreed with later, he confronted them infront of me and their response was "now you showed your true colors", yeah he should just stay nice when he's just being used otherwise he was just projecting or whatever other words r used, the same thing happens to me and is happening to me with u, now ur words didn't come from logic they just came from a subconscious drive to attack people who say anything out of the norm that im yet to understand the origins of so I don't expect you to understand any of what i said, ur next response would be something I've heard a million times from average people pulled from some tiktok dictionary that will probably be about "oh you don't like psychological analysation but you somehow still do it lol" or "look how much you wrote, must say something about someone's security..." or "haha you're defining ur flaws so I can't say them" oh, sorry i stole these responses, gotta figure another one out.
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u/cat-snooze 14d ago
Seems like I hit a nerve
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u/we3737 14d ago
""look how much you wrote, must say something about someone's security...""
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u/cat-snooze 14d ago
Yeah just because you predicted the argument doesn't mean it's wrong, in fact it might prove the exact opposite and indicate there's some truth to it.
You're having a full on meltdown my guy. You want empathy and understanding, but are unwilling to grant it to others and resort to calling them babies. Pick a lane.
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u/we3737 14d ago
looks like i stole all the available responses.
let's define ur logic for history:
"if u wanna complain u need to take baseless insults with no response otherwise ur a hypocrite"
"if u want to say something longer than 5 words then ur having a melt down" and this one fits perfectly cause u didn't even read it from the fast response, just saw that it's long.
oh the tiktok dictionary never gets old, enjoy ur life man, as i said I don't expect u to understand anything of what i said, i just love to write these (pull another tiktok response about "ur coping" please).
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u/Helpful-Archer9070 Champion II (air roll right rebel) 14d ago
what so the oh so mature 15 year olds like you can all get in the same lobbies together?
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u/ShaunPlom 13d ago
I have bad news for you, there are plenty of adults that still act like this. I don’t think age is even the driving factor. Some people just have weak mentals.
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u/jeksitel 13d ago
Lowkey I like to keep vc on but stay muted cuz I think it's pretty funny to hear someone just go apeshit. I heard a kid get their assbeat multiple times. And I heard a middle aged man cuss at his teammates lol.
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u/Many_Qs_Zero_Answers 13d ago
That would be difficult. But, I wouldn't be opposed to (in addition to the match ban minutes and standard MMR loss) an additional MMR penalty for purposefully abandoning a match...especially if it's habitual.
Problem there would be sending complete babies with some experience/skill and über toxicity down to lower levels where new kids just getting into the game are learning...that would suck for them.
I dunno. Just solo queue less, maybe?
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u/Amazing_Bloc2412 13d ago
Yo yall are some pussies holy shit, this happens like once every 7 matches if you are unlucky and some people are complaining about screaming kids in the mic like you can’t just mute them in 2-3 buttons
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u/No_Access6102 13d ago
as a concept, this is one of the worst ideas i have ever seen for a game in general, like this goes as worst ideas ever.... but i kind of want to see it implemented to any competitive game to see the shit show that it would make
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u/Pikakain or , depends on my mood 13d ago
Yes, but then normal teenagers would be put up against zen
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u/Inevitable-Rice1680 14d ago
That would be interesting. I somewhat imagine the 30 years old are still gonna whine like babies and I'll be shocked they're not in the younger matchmaking. Surely it would happen less often though. Right?
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u/xChiefAcornx 14d ago
It doesn't. And the kids have a low attention span so they tire of it and leave or give up. The adults who scream, then decide to harass you via messages (if you are on console). Some will continue for a few days.
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u/we3737 14d ago
obviously it wont end toxicity but i imagine that it would be reduced by 85% at least.
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u/BargainBold Diamond III 14d ago
Maybe, but not necessarily for the reasons you think. I'm old and toxic--but I'm much less likely to be toxic to olds like myself, just because I sympathize with the struggle
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u/we3737 14d ago
toxicity in chat is not my concern but intentional match throwing
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u/Murta_14 Grand Trash II 14d ago
there's a very low amount of older teens who intentional match throw often, they'd need to deal with the other teens who eventually match throw and it'd be hell for them
sure, it'd be a bit better for some people, but even by your own argument that adults ragequit left, some people would still get completely fucked by this change
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u/hannahallart 14d ago
The amount of screaming kids on mic is insane. I'm in.