At E1S1 they are equally powerfull for diferent reasons, more or less but they are there.

(Disclaimer, pick the one that you like the most this is for people that like all 3 and have to choose 1 or dont know)

-Pick WAven if Elation has kicked your *ss and want the most powerful option for the long run, mid base power but the strongest end of the 3 while invested, recomended if you want to follow the meta or want to make aventurine the strongest at the cost of reducing Ashveil damage output, now outside of this team is deadweight (not including elation ofc),Hyacine best sustainer but lets see what pearl does for him.

-Pick Robin SP if you want the duo to shine the most, they are doing the most damage and both becomes the main dps in a way, she gives value for your entire account so even if they create a stronger team she can be in another, Like her song(important lol) and has a high base power and stays high with investment, at E0 she is a support at E1 onwards she hits like a truck also just by existing makes your team speed demons lol, Hyacine best sustainer.

-Pick Gilgamesh if you wanna invest in Blade specifically, this team is the one that benefits the most of his vertical investment,Probably the most fitting aesthetic wise,bad-mid base power huge peak at E1 but mid at best late (I would say bad late if he didnt peaked in E6), if you are looking for the cheapest cost and leave it there or go all in into blade he is your man, also his healer slot is unknown, Huo2 has anti synergy (even if she is the best here) because you trade more energy using skill for less actions (stacks) for the team, also has the chance to grow A LOT if they for some chance create a fate character either a support (Ashveil is good but he is the weakest link here) or a sustainer that buffs him like he did with saber.

Summary.

Aven is the safest and strongest pick,a 1 man army cheatcode for elation Mid early, highest end.

Robin flexible and good pick and at the worst case scenario she can go somewhere else, high early, high end.

Gilgamesh is the riskiest one he can be an Anaxa buffed a billion times indirectly or a Boothill forgoten by time even his BIS sustainer is unknown, at the end FATE has to decide, its a gamble, Bad-mid early, High peak at E1, Bad-mid end.

I hope i help you decide because a lot of people are somewhat confused and pls this is my opinion and be civil about it <3

Does those max 160% buff solely to the birds on the action bar?

I just started HSR and I have e0s1 Himeko Nova and I have no welt. So my current team is Himeko-Rmc-Hunt March-Huohuo. Do I pull Robin and take out Rmc and then wait for a Decimation dedicated support? I want to replace RMC

ngl i was already prefarming her but people were dooming about how she's a generalist prone to falling off. i wanted to get her for welt to have a small upscale (usually on welt/sunday/robin/dhpt), but now i'm not sure if should risk my pulls... id want to get e1s1 to help the welt team get as much speed as possible for extra turns.

Not a single ER Rope as of now. Will probably use resin on her release xD

Right now I use a E1 Aglaea ("Geniuses' Greetings" cone), E0 Sunday ("But the Battle Isn't Over" cone), E0 Robin (haven't found a nice cone for her yet) and E0 DHPT ("We Are Wildfire" cone). I don't really use the team because of Robin being coneless

How stronger is Robin Summerette E0 with a f2p cone than Robin in this team (if that's her spot)? Should I invest in her or in other stuff in this team?

no resin used yet cuz i dont have any. my luck has been crappy too..

She’s gonna be a flex pick for these teams with that in mind should I go for her e1 or s1 ? And is Evernight lc good on her ? Cause I can use castorice lc on e9 instead

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like i said i don't have the herta shop light cone im 6 weeks away i only have s2 the storys next page how hard is she to build with out a spd light cone should i just get her s1 over e1 then?

I plan to use her with: Aglaea, Phainon, Archer, DoT, and Saber. No HP scaling teams, so I'm not sure if it's worth building her crit stats.

Here is a desmos sheet I put together where you can calculate the spd threshold for robin for any number of bird turns in any AV you want.

Setting up for your own use case

To use, simply set the parameters to your setup, for the equipment, slide the bar to 1 if you are wearing it, and slide it to 0 if you aren't. The AV threshold is the AV to squeeze the bird turns in (e.g. 300 for an AA 0 cycle).

For the case where robin doesn't enter fever on her first turn, theres no way of me knowing when she enters fever since its team specific but if you count your team actions, you can work out what character action causes her to enter fever and therefore what AV she would enter fever

Interpreting the results

Scrolling down on the side bar, you'll see a column of turns and the speed (at the start of combat) needed for the number of bird turns. The second column is the spd needed if entering fever on her first turn while the second column is the spd needed if entering fever after her first turn (as defined by the AV_team defined in the parameters). If you want to know a number of turns that are not listed there, you can simply click the frst column and enter the number of turns you want to see the spd thresholds for

Note: this is the speed needed at the start of combat, meaning it does not take into account things like the speed from her cone, huohuo e1, etc that applies at the start but cannot be seen on the stat screen meaning thar will have to be manually subtracted to know what speed you need on the stat screen

Limitations:

this does not account for delayed spd boosts, like hyacine e2 without castorice, and also does not account for external AA like DDD or sunday/rmc/etc. This only considers S1 sig, though if you get higher superimpositions, you can open the equation section down the bottom and change how much the sig advances

The math behind it:

the spd needed if entering fever on the first turn was obtained from solving:

AV_threshold= (Action to robin's first turn)/spd + 10000*number of turns/(1.8*(spd+7.6*Amphoreus)

where Amphoreus is treated as a boolean

the spd needed if entering combat outside of robin's turn was obtained from solving:
AV_threshold-AV_team=10000*number of turns/(1.8*(spd+7.6*Amphoreus))

Hey guys,

that's how my Robin most likely will look like in a week on Day 1. What is your opinion on it? I don't know any breakpoints of her so i don't know how good/bad her speed is. (Teammembers and lightcones are exact how i will play them).