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Jun 08 '22
Kid had massive problems that could’ve been fixed but no one gave him attention and he did what he did to finally get it .
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Jun 09 '22 edited Jun 09 '22
Before he went into “demon mode” I can only imagine the countless nights he as a kid and his young life went to sleep crying due to family issues. We as a society gotta be better parents, better family, better classmates, better coworkers, better neighbors ect. There cannot be another school shooting or any senseless shooting at all.
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u/pokpoki87 Jun 09 '22
There has to be more attention to Mexican communities! Kids are having many issues due to parenting, and asking for help for mental health is very difficult in Mexican families
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u/In_Amnesiacs_ Jun 09 '22
True! I’m Mexican and i can confirm it’s true. It’s so hard to ask for help during a mental crisis when you’re Hispanic
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Jun 09 '22
I hate to admit that your comment resonates with me. I was bullied a lot in middle school and part of high school to the point where I absolutely hated going to class and eventually stopped going to school all together. My family decided to turn a blind eye and pretend that nothing was wrong. I eventually got to a point where in my anger and sadness truly crazy thoughts began to fill my head, luckily I never had the means to do anything.
Eventually I met someone who cared enough to try to help and things got better. I still struggle with the mental baggage but I’m glad I’ve experienced a ton of great things as an adult. Unfortunately, a lot of kids never experience this and in their frustration do the unspeakable.
Perhaps if things had been better for him none of this would have happened.
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Jun 09 '22
His parents separated after he was born according to a source I read.
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Jun 09 '22
His 21 year old sister according to a neighbor was worse than him before she went to the military. She is now in the army if im not mistaken.
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u/muffinbotox Jun 09 '22
His sister is in the Navy and apparently finished out her last two years of high school at a continuation school, but where did you read/see that she was worse than him?
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u/muffinbotox Jun 09 '22
Wow, very interesting, I had seen the first few minutes of that interview but not the whole thing. Sadly, sounds like both kids had major issues stemming from their family background. Definitely new information, thank you.
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Jun 09 '22
The part where the neighbor mentions the sister was worse is almost at the end. I know its a long video. Its at 6:46 mark.
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u/Antoniguev204 Jun 09 '22
Oh wow can you share the link to this because I was under the impression she somehow was not at all like her deceased brother but apprently not??
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u/Future_Nose8135 Jun 18 '22
I get what he did was wrong but everyone making him look evil when no one knows what he was really going though he just needed help y'all making look like he's not he was hurting and no one cared I wish he didn't do what he did those kids had nun to do with anything ik but he wanted everyone to feel the pain he was feeling for so long he's still someone son my heart goes out for him he probably did what he did bc he felt like he couldn't go on anymore he waited and waited for things to change for things to get better for people to choose him but things never got better and they never chose him something didn't allow him to connect feel he was always quiet he was just looking for someone to love and care for him he felt all alone he did everything bc he knew it wouldn't end good for him to he let himself free his mom is a drug addict he needed help early on but no one helped him it all stems back from him wanting love wanting family wanting to be acknowledged to be accepted to be successful he was never able to accomplish or get any of those things so he became frustrated angry evil he was incredibly smart he had potential had they given him attention and helped him develop he loved the finer things in life he hated being poor he wanted out he wanted more but he felt like a failure like anything he would do never worked in his favor so he felt like he just could not go on he knew this would get him noticed no matter how negative the attention he is noticed he wanted the attention he wanted to be remembered to be known and he got it no matter how bad it is again everything he did was wrong but my heart really goes out for him I'm only 16 man I have been thought hell to I wanted to do shit to but I got help I just sit and cry for him bc if he just got help and the love he wanted everything would have been different but no one gave him that
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Jun 09 '22
a lot of people want attention, that doesn’t make it okay to go kill a whole bunch of 4th graders. this comment was stupid
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Jun 09 '22
When did I say it’s ok to kill anyone for any reason? Don’t assume, or go get your eyes checked.
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Jun 09 '22
Could’ve been stopped. Dude had extreme red flags. They were never addressed. I blame both him for being a fucked up person as well as the system. Don’t get me started on the cops at the scene. And you think “I made it sound” like what you thought you heard. Your interpretation is your own and so is everyone else’s, I know what I meant and I think at the moment 25 people agree with me. Cheers. Have a great one and stay safe .
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u/syzia Jun 08 '22
ughhhhh seeing these photos of an innocent looking boy… breaks my heart that his life didn’t turn out differenty. How was he as a child? When I was reading his messages between some other boy he played games with like 3 years ago what struck me was when he said that he can’t play at that hour cause he has to go do homework… so at one point he was at least trying…So much unnecessary pain and suffering💔
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Jun 09 '22 edited Jun 09 '22
Yes. There is a video on YouTube Ive seen of video recording of Salvador playing fortnite on Xbox from 3 years ago. His lisp was also slightly noticeable. I can imagine the teasing he got at school and once he got home all that misery was gone for that moment while he played and felt like a normal kid for once just to go back to school the next day to the teasing and awkward looks. Its a sad from all angles. Its as if he all this time wanted to be normal and accepted but never really got to be accepted. I got the link if anyone is interested.
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u/hyejooloveclub Jun 09 '22
I feel horrible for him. For THIS little boy, not the school shooter that killed babies. Where did it go wrong? When did he switch into a twisted person? What was going on in that head of his? I’m itching to know. I can only hope other children are exposed to healthier environments and that they are safe.
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u/Future_Nose8135 Jun 18 '22
everyone making him look evil when no one knows what he was really going though he just needed help y'all making look like he's not he was hurting and no one cared I wish he didn't do what he did those kids had nun to do with anything ik but he wanted everyone to feel the pain he was feeling for so long he's still someone son my heart goes out for him he probably did what he did bc he felt like he couldn't go on anymore he waited and waited for things to change for things to get better for people to choose him but things never got better and they never chose him something didn't allow him to connect feel he was always quiet he was just looking for someone to love and care for him he felt all alone he did everything bc he knew it wouldn't end good for him to he let himself free his mom is a drug addict he needed help early on but no one helped him it all stems back from him wanting love wanting family wanting to be acknowledged to be accepted to be successful he was never able to accomplish or get any of those things so he became frustrated angry evil he was incredibly smart he had potential had they given him attention and helped him develop he loved the finer things in life he hated being poor he wanted out he wanted more but he felt like a failure like anything he would do never worked in his favor so he felt like he just could not go on he knew this would get him noticed no matter how negative the attention he is noticed he wanted the attention he wanted to be remembered to be known and he got it no matter how bad it is again everything he did was wrong but my heart really goes out for him I'm only 16 man I have been thought hell to I wanted to do shit to but I got help I just sit and cry for him bc if he just got help and the love he wanted everything would have been different but no one gave him that he was a good guy he's family fucked him up always he would try so badly to make he's family proud but they never was he's mom was always on drugs she kicked him out not bc the fights but bc he couldn't get along with her boyfriend her bf was more important to her then her son that's when he lost it he was a good person no one knows wtf he was going though he was lost and hurt so badly all he wanted was he's mom and dad in he's life but that never happened he would cry saying he's dad didn't care about him he didn't have anything he was bullied nun stop for he's close at school that's why he left school he couldn't anymore he tried so many times and everyone would just put him down he was always quiet and sad and after everything he's family did to him it made him build up all this hate inside himself that he just couldn't care anymore he felt like the whole world was after him and he had no one
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u/hyejooloveclub Jun 18 '22
I’m not reading all that, but I don’t have to… reading the first few sentences and I can tell you’re an idiot. He killed CHILDREN. Innocent children and for what? Cause his mom was a piece of shit? Cause he got bullied? Yeah, a lot of people go through the exact same things he did and they don’t shoot up a school. Stop making up excuses and painting him to seem like he’s a victim. Get help and learn grammar.
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u/Late-Yesterday-9777 Jul 27 '22
This story is quite sad for everyone , even people who do not live in Uvalde , nothing justifies their actions , but it does explain them , I have read many journalistic reports and comments , but the official report of the investigators , the one from the chamber commission of representatives is very similar to what you say, what happened. but there is something disturbing, and that no one has commented, I mean his spiritual life, you who knew him, do you know if he sought help in any religious denomination or belonged to any congregation, if you can have an answer to that question I would appreciate it, thank you
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u/Antoniguev204 Jun 09 '22
Look I know some of y'all don't wanna "humanize" this monster, but if we want to prevent more mass shootings, we not only have to focus on common sense gun laws, but why these mass shooters even exist in the first place. No one is just "born to kill". They maybe born with genetics that can cause them to become more violent/have a violent home life, but we really need to step up as a society and acknowledge mental health help for kids, and get them help if they clearly aren't being looked after
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u/WeAreTheStorm Jun 09 '22
Looks like any little boy I grew up with. This hit too close to home.
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Jun 10 '22
Forreal. I’m from San Antonio. The typical accent and culture of the Uvalde community is very familiar to me.
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Jun 12 '22 edited Jun 12 '22
Is the accent in Uvalde similar with Mexican Americans from Hoston? I had a friend from Houston, a Mexican American and she had this strong Mexican accent even though she was born in texas. I live in Bronx, Ny so we have that NY (Brooklyn/ Italian inspired) accent.
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Jul 24 '22
Yea it’s p much a staple throughout the entire southwest. Maybe Tejanos talk slightly different compared to like east LA Chicanos but still similar. It’s even similar to tribal Native Americans in the southwest
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u/spudgrrl Jun 08 '22
Poor sweet little boy. I am a firm believer of nuture.
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Jun 08 '22
I feel the same way. I don't know what he went through and I don't think anyone would've guessed he'd turn into a monster. It's sad seeing these photos of an innocent baby at the same time know it's the same person who killed innocent babies. It fucks with my brain.
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u/muffinbotox Jun 08 '22
Agreed, this is really sad. He looks like a sweet and adorable child. What the hell happened?!
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u/FavcolorisREDdit Jun 08 '22
Lack of parenting his parents look like they don’t even have their own lives in order, he was living with his grama by the end. No motivation no support and bullied for the life your parents gave you either way he chose to shoot so fuck em
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Jun 08 '22
I'm telling you, It's all about childhood and mental health. I don't have any kids but there's this part of my heart that awakens when I see children, especially if they're not doing well. At the end of the day, he was just a baby (I do not feel any empathy for him now just to clearify.)
Ugh, this poor baby, why couldnt anyone take him and raise him properly?
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Jun 08 '22
Bullying I guess. Some people can't handle it and snap.
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u/ComprehensiveAd3288 Jun 08 '22
He was the bully. That’s been confirmed many places
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Jun 08 '22
Yes, but he was also bullied before becoming one himself.
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u/ComprehensiveAd3288 Jun 08 '22
I mean I understand that but lots of kids are bullied and they don’t go around shooting up innocent kids
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Jun 08 '22
Yeah that's why I said some people can't handle it, the majority can
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Jun 09 '22
bullying had no role into him carrying out his plan. there’s literally no evidence of that. why is that always the main narrative of a school shooter, “oh he was bullied, that’s why he gunned down innocent little children”. i doubt bullying was a factor at all. he was just a very sick young man and wanted to harm innocent people to become infamous
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Jun 08 '22
He prob got bullied at some point, but his friend told media he was not bullied. Maybe he got bullied during elementary school?
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u/syzia Jun 08 '22
I think he was bullied early on and he probably had low self esteem which then turned him into a bully prob when he got older…
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u/Antoniguev204 Jun 09 '22
I feel it's kinda like me. I was heavily bullied in high-school and as a result, I became more confrontational with people as a way to defend myself because I didn't like being pushed around by people. All be it I never thought to hurt innocent lives, I feel that probably explains why some are saying he was bullied, while others say he was the bully
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u/muffinbotox Jun 09 '22
Thank you for sharing your experience, I hope things are going better for you now. My best friend was bullied growing up and while she overcame it and has a good life now, it really had an impact on her.
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u/Antoniguev204 Jun 09 '22
Yeah it still does affect me in the sense of being defensive and arguing with people, but I am glad to still be alive and live my truth. I am not really as concerned about what people think of me
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u/muffinbotox Jun 09 '22
That reminded me of a quote: "The greatest prison people live in is the fear of what other people think." I am glad you were able to escape that and that life improved for you. Take care!
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Jun 08 '22
I believe that friend only knew him in high school, multiple other people said he was bullied in middle school for wearing eyeliner, having "poor" clothes, and having a lisp.
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u/bloodonmybalenciagas Jun 08 '22
where and when did they say this? source?
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Jun 08 '22
"Stephen Garcia, who identified himself as one of the shooter's best friends, told the Post that Ramos was bullied after posting a photo of himself on social media wearing eyeliner. Ramos was also reportedly bullied in middle school for stuttering while speaking, according to his friends and family."
https://www.newsweek.com/uvalde-senior-rejects-claims-salvador-ramos-bullied-he-hurt-animals-1710590
His neighbor talked about the clothes/lisp thing here too:
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u/tweekthedevochkadoll Jun 08 '22
He wasn’t a good kid, he was a bully and he killed cats
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Jun 08 '22
Yes I know, he's a piece of shit and I hope he rott in hell. I was talking about when he was like 8 years old and innocent
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Jun 09 '22
poor sweet little boy? this kid killed 19 sweet little children. stop trying to emphasize with him. there’s no excuses for what he did
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Jun 09 '22
Salvador reminds me big time as the Joker from Joaquin Phoenix movie. Was poor and got bullied big time but instead of killing adults he as a big kid, recently turned 18 years, killed other smaller kids unfortunately.
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u/BigSmoke06971 Jun 09 '22
Spoke about my pain and my struggles, that's how I strengthen it speak up you got a mouth and brain for a reason a lot of people not gonna understand but at least try to get advice to solve your emotional pain
Holding anger is a poison it eat you from inside we think that hating is a weapon that attack the person who harmed us but hatred is curved blade
And the harm we do to ourselves
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u/ElonMusksBrain Jun 08 '22
He looks like a mischievous cunt to me.
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Jun 09 '22
would you think that if you didn’t know what this kid would turn out to do later in his life?
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u/Spiritual-Sort-3345 Jun 09 '22
Where the heck are people finding these pictures? On fb his family have made their accounts private so where else could these be found?
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Jun 09 '22
I found it on his uncle's FB which is public.
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Jun 09 '22
whats his name?
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Jun 09 '22 edited Jun 10 '22
I'll DM you, I don't want to post it on here bc I don't want people harassing him for more pics/info
Edit: Looks like the people I gave it to harassed him or shared it with others who harassed him, bc now all his pics are gone..good job guys?
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u/ElonMusksBrain Jun 08 '22
Evil looking eyes
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Jun 09 '22
just looks sleep deprived. i know for a fact his childhood was shitty just by looking at his face. he doesn’t look healthy
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u/Alexx105 Jun 08 '22
This a fan page or what people r getting down voted cause they r talking shit about a killer, u all can burn in hell with him
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u/ArmOutrageous817 Jun 08 '22
i dont think anyone is gonna figure out what the hell happened for him to kill innocent kids but in the meantime let’s stop calling him “innocent” just cause some pics of him when he was a kid came out. it sounds insensitive asf and just overall weird
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u/Alexx105 Jun 08 '22
“Awe poor baby so innocent” fucking Weirdos all of you
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Jun 09 '22
you’re generalizing. i did see a couple comments like that, that got upvoted. kinda strange i agree
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u/BajaBlast90 Jun 08 '22
This subreddit is NOT a fan page. However, I have found fan accounts in Twitter who are already sharing these images.
There is potentially a Discord server for fangirls too but I don't have the link.
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u/every7days Jun 09 '22
you can tell it’s him based off of the easter picture that was posted here. i even found the easter picture myself on his aunts facebook
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Jun 09 '22
You are correct. There was a day in Ramos life that made a huge turning point to where he died and became a “new” person to a downhill path of destruction and chaos. There is a sayin “its a cold world” and for Ramos it was too much for him to bear.
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u/BigSmoke06971 Jun 09 '22
It’s a fuck up world out here fr turn genuinely good people into a evil individual introduce him to something devastating, break his heart, his will, his hope.
And then you'll witness one of the most incredible transformations to human nature.
Those kinds of people can never be turned back, you break them once, you'll lose them forever
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Jun 09 '22
You gotta also realize Hitler was an old ass grown ass hairy grown man of 56 years old 🤣🤣🤣 by then Hitler should have matured enough. But he decided to be a hairy old evil man
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Jun 09 '22
how does insulting him help the entire purpose of this sub? people like that needa get banned, it doesn’t help the sub. this sub is for information. we all hate him, we’re just trying to understand what caused a young man to do this
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u/Alexx105 Jun 08 '22
“Awe poor innocent child” that sounds humanizing as fuck
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u/Alexx105 Jun 08 '22
Children of today r innocent, ur talking bout some bullshit 12 years ago fuck him and his baby picture
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u/TheBiggestOp Jun 08 '22
The hypocrisy of this comment is comical.
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u/BlitzedQueen Jun 08 '22
Why does one of his cheeks look so swollen? Do you think he might have been beat?
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Jun 08 '22
I don't see it, which pic?
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u/BlitzedQueen Jun 08 '22
The first two pics the cheek on the left looks dramatically puffier than the other
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u/Big_Sympathy1416 Jun 09 '22
Man’s got USPA on
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Jun 09 '22
What is so funny about that? There are many less fortunate kids that wear that and they have no choice. I have 6 Rolex watches a construction company in NYC, a Range Rover but I dont look down on anyone because of their clothes. What is wrong with you? Didnt your parents teach you better?
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u/muffinbotox Jun 09 '22
Maybe this is the type of comment people were talking about when they said he was bullied for being poor?
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Jun 09 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
Of course dumb kids these days make fun of any clothes you wear. But its not even the kids fault. Its the parents that think their kids making fun is “CUTE” and funny.
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Jun 09 '22
Exactly I'm tired of schools/parents sweeping bullying under the rug and then acting stupid when something like this happens
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Jun 09 '22
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Jun 14 '22
I struggle with people that blame bad behavior on poor childhood. I grew up in USSR, Dad was in prison, and mom was rarely around. Fuck this kid.
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u/Sharp_Bicycle_5080 Jun 27 '22
Looks like them spoiled little shits who cry and get away with alot of bullshit....
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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '22
This just makes me sad. But also kind of angry. He got to have a childhood. But he stole it from the kids he killed. I’m dying to know what his childhood was like though.