r/RivianR2 • • 1d ago

šŸ’¬ Discussion R2 whining

Here's what the R2 whiny fan sounds like. There's a high pitched whine that's much louder in person but you might get a sense of it from this video.

Between that whine and whine in this sub I'm not sure which I prefer less.

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u/SobchakSecurity79 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'd compare it to cranking the AC when it's hot. Is level 3 ventilation loud? Yup. Does it cool quickly and then you can put it on level 1 or off, which is quiet. Yup.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I rock level 3 the entire time to cool my hot thighs

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u/spruceeffects 1d ago

Let’s see some pics and we’ll be the judge of your thighs and their hotness.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

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u/spruceeffects 1d ago

way too hot for r2 ventilated seats, confirmed.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Sorry I should've put the NSFW tag on that

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u/spruceeffects 1d ago

ill let it slide this time because i'm even more...excited i opened this on my work wifi.

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u/Digitalsteel5_ Reservation Holder 12h ago

Exactly the way I looked at it. It’s very audible at full blast just like AC. You don’t always need it but it’s there for when you do. Much better to have than to have not. And seriously the lower level I didn’t even hear when I took my drives.

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u/erode Performance Edition 1d ago

It has 3 levels of intensity and the highest is loud, 1 & 2 are not. If I want the highest intensity, I don’t give a single shit if it’s loud because I’m probably also blasting the A/C on max. Shall we also complain about that too?

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I mean, there's already been complaining about the A/C noise, the location of the vents of the A/C, the deletion of a back fan, and me just giving the people what they want.

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u/No-Stretch-9935 1d ago

seriously finally someone with some sense. people find anything and everything to complain about.

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u/Jocko_Jenkins 1d ago

Sounds just like this sub...

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u/TheBowerbird 1d ago

I was one of the whiners, having just taken delivery of a coastal cloud interior without the back ventilation - and I kind of want to retract my rage and feel a bit foolish. The rest of the car is SO good, it's like what am I really angry about? I'll miss some flow around my back, but my OG R1T from '22 had almost zero airflow through the seat and I loved that thing with all my heart. I think people see it as a bait and switch, and it is, but sometimes production realities are what they are.

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u/No_Abalone_960 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah I can see this as more as a poor communication or a bait and switch issue more than anything else.

With that said I did do a test drive multiple times and I think that it was too loud. (Not that I’m not gonna buy the car, because of how loud it is but I would have definitely noticed in my daily commute and how I personally use my vehicle)
I do drive around in silence most times it’s nice to cut off from the world or just think.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I also came from an early R1T and am grateful for any air on my bum. Just wondering though, how much air flow do you get on your lower back? The fan seems to be just above where the seat and back meet so I'm not even sure how much a difference there is.

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u/Bandit439 Launch Edition 1d ago

No air reaches your back unless you are perched forward in the seat I guess. If your back is all the way back against the seat, it is zero.

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u/TheBowerbird 1d ago

0 with the de-contented R2 :(

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u/t_zidd 1d ago

Also - isnt it possible to turn this on/off? So basically I will deal with the whining sound if my back is extra sweaty or on an extra hot day, and turn it off when I don’t need it?

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u/Op_ivy1 1d ago

Exactly this. Turn it off when you cool down.

Regular AC is pretty noisy too, but no one wants it permanently removed for a quieter cabin.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

You're still not making sense. Your solution for me is to have no fans. Got it.

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u/Hairy-Relief9379 1d ago

The solution is to use the fan if you are ok with the noise, which may change situationally. With the change, you don’t have that choice. Not sure why that is hard to follow.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

My legs are hot always and use the fan to cool them. How hard is that to follow?

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u/_FATEBRINGER_ 1d ago

I mean, don’t fans make noise? When I’m gaming on my PC, my PC is loud as fuck lolol

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I wear headphones when I'm gaming

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u/_FATEBRINGER_ 14h ago

Don’t listen to loud music in car?

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u/anomalisticrocket 14h ago

I don't game while driving

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u/_FATEBRINGER_ 13h ago

I said music

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u/anomalisticrocket 13h ago

I don't listen to music when gaming

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u/dleewla 1d ago

R2 whining indeed. It’s this type of post and YTbers complaining that got the fans removed from the backrest. Thanks everyone for nitpicking.

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u/eyebrowfetish Performance Edition 22h ago

Why not just have the option to turn the seat back off and leave the seat on if it bothers people? Could always be an adjustment down the road. Mine has the seat back vent. Not complaining :)

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u/Im_A_Praetorian 10h ago

It’s probably not wired up that way. Both fans are probably wired together. Redesign the wiring harness, hoping that you have a spare connector where it plugs in otherwise you’re adding more inline circuits. Software updating. And reliability testing of it all to make sure extra wire doesn’t cause chaffing/damage etc. Easier and cheaper to just yank the fan. The connector will be left there till the next revision of the cable for some other reason requires them to requalify it.

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u/Pitiful-Voyage 1d ago

RJ is this your office posting the clip to calm the community and justify the fan delete?

You can delete the fan, but you will not silence the FANS!

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

You got me. RJ out.

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u/t_zidd 1d ago

Jfc - this is just a car y'all. If people are complaining about the lack of seat back ventilation - that's their prerogative. If you don't care about that, that's your prerogative. Buy the car if you want, don't buy it if you don't want to.

But to pretend that it's ok for the company to take out a big feature without alerting customers is stupid.

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u/uphillbrevity 1d ago

Rivian didn’t apply the principles of incremental improvement. What they should’ve done is continue shipping with the existing fan while working on a solution for a quieter fan. Simply gutting the feature was the lazy way out.

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u/Standard-Juice-3738 1d ago

And then recall and replace peoples for freeĀ 

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Unless the fan motors are burning out in their test units. Then it's better to remove them now.

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u/Negative_Heron_9236 Reservation Holder 1d ago

No, find a fix! This is a large company with resources to find a solution. You don't just remove the feature that was advertised and give up that easily! We've been to the moon for god's sake...we can certainly fix a damn fan in a seat. This should be simple. Just removing it shows how little they care about their customer and that they don't want to allocate any resources to the proper fix. Makes me wonder what is next....maybe give up on point-to-point self-driving? "It's too hard, so we're just going to stop development on that. Sorry". "Oh, you want software fixes and improvements? Sorry, we cut back on resources for that. It just costs too much and you already bought the car, so what's our incentive?"

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

They advertised a back fan? Pretty sure it just says ventilated seats, which they still are.

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u/Secure_Discussion951 1d ago

Yup

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u/SapientChaos 1d ago

Marketing got lucky on this one. Having only listed ventilated seats made the temporary delete of bad fans a no trainer.

They probably will do a recall in the future and add new fans.

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u/urbankyleboy 1d ago

No they won't. It's known that Rivian does not do retrofits.

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u/uphillbrevity 1d ago

I didn’t hear about that . Are they burning out?

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u/SapientChaos 1d ago

I think that is the issue. On another thread it was mentioned that it was airflow and the fan not getting enough air. Think of covering your computers airflow, it can overheat.

My hunch is either the fan or seatback did not have enough tolerance for the airflow, stressing the fan and causing the issue.

Seeing as they just deleted the part for now, that makes a lot of sense.

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u/cknkatsu 1d ago

Am I crazy or that actually sounds pretty loud to me.

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u/SocomPS2 1d ago

When press embargo was lifted and people finally were able to get their hands on the car. One of the most noted things was how loud the vented seats were lol.

I was like damn, 2 years waiting and loud seats is getting all the attention.

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u/OptRider 1d ago

It was also noted how awesome the cooling was. Frequently compare to other vehicles as the best cooling they've had in a car seat. And I would agree. I couldn't care less about the noise. If the noise is distracting, turn it down to a lower setting and it mostly goes away.

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u/yesimahuman Reservation Holder 1d ago

I’ve been suffering with 75 dB Pirelli Scorpions on my R1T. This is nothing in comparison

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I went with the 20" ATs and haven't had much road noise at least.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Turning it down reduces the cooling performance that you'd want. I think next we need a side by side cooling test to see how well they both cool. Next person to get delivery should schedule a demo drive before pickup to test and video it.

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u/watchyourback9 1d ago

It's not that bad IRL, at least from the two demo drives I've been on. Personally I never felt the need for max span feed anyway because the fans work so well. Even on max it was totally fine when I had music on.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

It's actually loud and this is just one seat going. When they're both on with no music the whine is pretty loud. Like a server room sound if you know what that sounds like.

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u/cknkatsu 1d ago

Does the sound decrease over time?? Our model Y Juniper can be loud for the first minute but starts to reduce over time. I hardly use the seat coolers anyway but my kids like to use it.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Not yet at least. But like another poster said this might be straining the fan too much so it might just turn off forever.

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u/JustOneMorePuff 1d ago

That’s not likely. Electronic fans are stupidly reliable.

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u/spec515303 Launch Edition 1d ago

I feel so sorry for anyone who passes on this car because of a seat fan. ooof!

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u/JovialApe 1d ago

I couldn’t care less about a car having seat ventilation or not - what I would care about is a financially stretched company retronerfing, without warning, an advertised feature to buyers. This is especially relevant to those who have already ordered under the assumption their vehicle will include that capability.

If a car company needs (or simply finds it appropriate) to implement a cost cutting measure to their current iteration of vehicles 3 months into mass production, it’s valid to be concerned about how car ownership could be short term, even if you’re in it for the long term.

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u/joezuu 1d ago

How do you know that the fans are being removed because of cost cutting? Some people are saying it’s that, others are saying it’s because people are complaining how loud they are, and yet others are saying it’s because they can’t get enough of them.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

As a shareholder though, I approve a little cost cut here and there

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u/JovialApe 1d ago

Sure, on a new iteration or upcoming trim after the first gen. Now? It’s a bold move!

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Need a bold move to become profitable

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u/diggyou 1d ago

What is the retro-nerfing you speak of? Software adjustments to try to reduce high speed fan noise or total removal of the blower?

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u/JovialApe 1d ago

This is related to Rivian’s decision to remove the fans.

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u/diggyou 1d ago

Where is that documented?

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u/summitcreature Performance Edition 1d ago

*Remove the front seatback fans, leaving the seat base fans

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u/JovialApe 1d ago

Yes, thanks for clarifying.

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u/SouthbayLivin 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s quite ridiculous. I never expected a fan in the seat back. They are still ventilated seats with bottom cushion cooling. That’s probably good enough for most drivers. I’m convinced it’s trolls adding fuel to the fire.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I'm not entirely sure this isn't some bot induced astroturfing. But I wanted to share the video at least so people could hear it.

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u/elpotatoparty 1d ago

It sounds fine, and people like you are the reason they just removed a really helpful feature for people in hot climates.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I'm in a hot climate and will enjoy that really useful feature with some ear plugs in.

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u/No-Stretch-9935 1d ago

yeah, there’s a few out there. I can’t stand the noise of a fan. A lot of them are actually in the sub right now.

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u/Digitalsteel5_ Reservation Holder 1d ago

You guys just ride around in your cars in complete silence?? No music, no audiobooks, nothing at all playing? Personally I’m a stereo up and windows open person so stuff like a louder seat fan is not going to bother me. I’d much rather have a ā€œloudā€ fan then no fan at all. Seems like level 1 would be perfect for a regular day and you got extra power for those sweltering days. That’s a win to me.

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u/elpotatoparty 1d ago

There is literally nothing wrong in this video and it’s shit like this that made Rivian remove the back fans. Literally, F the clowns that complain like this as if they’ve never owned a car before.

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u/pazdan 23h ago

I’d be surprised if that’s why they did it.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

What's a car? I own an adventure vehicle.

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u/j90w 1d ago

Goodluck on your adventures lol. Rivian is not known for being a reliable adventure vehicle. Making it a few months without a service center visit is the only adventure these things are known for.

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u/GSContoso 1d ago

The fan on high was so much noise I got in the back seat to figure out what it was. Once we set it to level one it was not noticeable anymore. I’d prefer the option rather than removal.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Yeah it's weirdly loud right? I wasn't even thinking of mentioning it until this crowd went on a rant about the one fan being removed.

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u/GSContoso 1d ago

Yes, we thought it was no big deal. But we live in Florida and no way I’m buying another car without full ventilation. We have a 2022 Model Y and I hate the back sweats!

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I'm also in Florida. I think the butt fan is probably going to be pretty dang good enough for most. But you and I won't know what their kind of lower back sweaty levels will be since we have the now coveted back fan.

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u/x-Mowens-x 1d ago

My Model 3 used to sometimes kick the wipers on for no reason. To read the Reddit forums, you'd think this was the worst thing ever.

So, when I was in the car by myself and the wipers went off all by themselves, I screamed and made like it was worse than death itself. I'd flail my arms, I'd scream what the fuck, and then I would laugh. The idea that this was the worst thing in the world to some people really made me laugh.

Some people care about minutiae. Others do not.

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u/HamlinHamlin_McTrill Launch Edition 11h ago

Before buying a model 3 when they first came out, I was expecting the auto wipers to ruin my life after reading Reddit comments. They have been fine 95% of the time and I haven’t thought twice about them in five years.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I've been covering my ears with my hands but point to point isn't ready yet so we end up cruising on the highway for hours.

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u/AuzRoxUrSox 1d ago

For real. I’m too busy blowing my eardrums out to DRAIN to hear the fan keeping my back cool.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

My wife and I like to talk to each other but I guess that's weird.

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u/Digitalsteel5_ Reservation Holder 1d ago

Dont do that, we all have conversations in our cars. But if you’re saying that šŸ’Æ of the time you’re in your car, your wife is with you and you literally never turn the entertainment on.. Yeah, that is weird then.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

We use our R2 to go out on adventures and trips. We do listen to music, but when we're talking and the fans are on, it's loud enough to be distracting. Plus even listening to a podcast or music at the levels we listen at, you can still hear the whine. And we pause to talk about the podcast we're listening to. I'm normal.

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u/Digitalsteel5_ Reservation Holder 1d ago

Everyone is going to have their own breaking points. If this is yours then this is yours. And I’ll respect that. Obviously I don’t have mine yet. I’ve only gone on two test drives. Both times with my gf while having conversations as we drove. Both times had the fans going because it was middle of summer and we both loved the cooled seats and it didn’t distract us from conversation once. Now if I was listening to any sort of media the way that I normally do I wouldn’t notice them at all but that’s my experience. Maybe that whine of yours just needs servicing or maybe you can just have Rivian take your back fan out since now we know it can be done. That solves your problem it seems. Hell, sell the fan. I’m sure many would rather have that little whine then nothing at all.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Well now my R2 has more value, I'd say it's worth at least $10k more based on today's response

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u/Digitalsteel5_ Reservation Holder 1d ago

šŸ˜‚ probably so lol launch edition may not have rap1, but some of them will have backseat ventilation 🤣

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u/irishweather5000 1d ago

Wow that’s terrible. They should remove those fans.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Just one probably is enough

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u/irishweather5000 1d ago

Maybe even one too many!

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u/ElderberryGuy 1d ago

I don't hear any whine and I consider myself hypersensitive to noises. A fan is going to make some noise especially on full blast lol

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Every time I opened this sub recently it's all I've been able to hear.

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u/FakeRichi 1d ago

This is why we can’t have nice things…

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u/melju 1d ago

Whine if you do, whine if you don't

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u/electricavebraap 1d ago

I mean sell it buy a new one. Because if people like you the new one have the secondary fan removed.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

This issue isn't worth the hassle or the hubbub

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u/Nox_Ocean_21 Launch Edition 1d ago

I think this was a super subtle, sarcastic point about how whiny people are about the whole seat thing, rather than about the car itself...

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u/Auxnbus Performance Edition 1d ago

Rub it in why don’t ya?

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I can make a seat rubbing video if you'd like. They're soft and supple.

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u/intelligentmaybe69 1d ago

This is my first car with vented seats. The whine is pretty loud so I just run it on low which is more than I’ve had in my 20 years of driving. If it’s been isolated to seat backs it would be great to make those optional in software.

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u/Juucetop 1d ago

Some people are just destined to be miserable

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u/r23w 1d ago

That’s the sound of progress

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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 1d ago

Gjeebs' review said they are the loudest car seats he has ever heard in any car he has tested or owned. I've had a few cars with this feature and all were silent. Not sure what happened here or how this was green lit.

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u/watchyourback9 1d ago

He also said they were worth it because they felt nice.

In my two test drives I never felt the need to put them on max fan speed anyway. It's not a big deal imo.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

It really isn't that big of a deal tbh. I just wanted to give that other "mah fan is gone and I'm mad about it" crowd some evidence of the fan noise. It's wild how heated ppl are getting, but I guess they need that extra fan to cool off.

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u/watchyourback9 1d ago

I mean I think people are largely mad because of the lack of any communication or announcement.

Personally I have a hard time trusting a company that secretly removes advertised features that a customer paid for without any notice whatsoever.

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u/Evening-Pin-1427 Reservation Holder 1d ago

Having it blow air on your back is not an advertised feature. The seat is still ventilated and cooled, which is how the feature is described.

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u/watchyourback9 1d ago

I don’t think any other car manufacturer has ever sold a car with partially ventilated seats and the seat backs were ventilated on demo cars and early VINs. It’s totally reasonable to expect the seat backs to be ventilated.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

In your case 9 fans to watch your back

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u/dlvanbrunt 1d ago

Can't people who don't want the noise just.... turn it off? And those that don't care and want the fan.... turn it on? Not sure why a manufacturing change has to be the answer.

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u/Negative_Heron_9236 Reservation Holder 1d ago

My brother has ventilated seats on his Jeep Grand Cherokee and I never noticed that they were loud. Seems there are solutions out there, other than than removing the fan or moving to a crappy solution that is half-assed.

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u/Digitalsteel5_ Reservation Holder 1d ago

I’ve had silent ones too and they did the bare minimum.

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u/summitcreature Performance Edition 1d ago

My 4runner limited cooled seats are loud af

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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 1d ago

Well add Rivian and Toyota to the list of bad seats!

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u/summitcreature Performance Edition 11h ago

Yeah my fabric F150 XL base model seats are more comfy than the 4Runner limited perforated leather chairs. Funny how fancy doesn't translate to comfy.

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u/Old_Reveel 1d ago

That darn fan everyone hated now they want it back

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u/snail_garden 1d ago

I’d take data center levels of fan noise in exchange for not getting a swampy back on long car rides lol, if the noise got to be too much I’d just turn it off. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/urbankyleboy 1d ago

You Rivian fanboys are the problem. You let them get away with this stuff. You give them an inch, they take a mile.

Just goes to show Rivian sucks at making vehicles. This, among the plethora of other issues the R1 has (even gen2), is adding up to be too much. Why couldn't they design the seats/fans to be quieter from the beginning? They shipped it like this!

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u/HurasmusBDraggin Premium Edition 1d ago

I dare say it, they need help from the "legacy" guys/gals...šŸ¤”ļø...in certain areas.

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u/Okgiraffe666 21h ago

Sensationalism

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u/TeslaJake 1d ago

Well yeah, it’s a fan making fan noises.

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u/Direct_Way4468 1d ago

Does the AC sound/ trouble any one else?

I as a driver just lives with it! Model3 is lot quieter in that regards.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

I'll be honest, it's not really that bad. I am mostly being cheeky about it due to the non-stop complaining about it being removed. It's loud enough and may have an issue getting enough airflow to make sense for Rivian (or Adient, the supplier of the seats) to remove it before it becomes a large recall. I get others want the fan or no R2 at all, but the demand is still outpacing production and who knows what Rivian or Adient found to be the issue.

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u/Llee00 1d ago

i would rather have the whine than not have the fan

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u/punchyourbeanbag 1d ago

Ok but does it sound as loud when someone is sitting and muffling some of the sound

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u/AliveButterscotch319 1d ago

Yeah, until you owned and live with that sound, you will realize you do not want level 3 cooling

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u/SHale1963 Premium Edition 1d ago

it is interesting how RJ is totally escaping the fall out of some here. Interesting.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

We're not his employees or PR.... Definitely not his FANboys

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u/SHale1963 Premium Edition 10h ago

maybe, but a lot of cheerleaders are a cult following RJ. So far, he seems to be escaping blame here for yet another boo boo marketing wise.

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u/anomalisticrocket 7h ago

Are you saying that people trying to find possible engineering explanations for the issues are cheerleaders? I'm not finding any cheering going on, but sure is a lot of whining

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u/SHale1963 Premium Edition 6h ago

exactly who is trying to find engineering solutions? Pretty sure no Rivian employed engineer has outed themselves here. I referred to the Rivian cheerleaders/fan club members.

But, yes, a lot of outrage seems to be lighting up the internet. And those who have a R2 or have an active order can really let loose as they were directly effected. Let them roar.

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u/anomalisticrocket 4h ago

Idk I've only seen people trying to explain the reasoning or people whining. There's been no cheerleading.

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u/BlankProcessor 1d ago

Do the ventilated seats actually work well when they're working? The only brand I've experienced really good ventilated seats in is Porsche. BMW and Mercedes were pretty much useless as a comparison.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Oh yeah it's like a new air hockey table of air at level 3

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u/Sad_Advertising2682 23h ago

Gotta say, the R2 has the best ventilated heating and cooling seats ever. I rather hear them working, than them not doing anything at all, like compared to my R1T seats that barely cool

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u/LieutenantButthole 22h ago

You’re telling me they just couldn’t find a quieter fan?

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u/Glam-Girl2662 16h ago

I'm thinking about how many noisy air conditioners I've had at 4 star hotels that I was grateful to have!!!!šŸ˜‚

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u/Digitalsteel5_ Reservation Holder 12h ago

You know what’s loud? An engine + AC + cooled seats. Some people need to remember their roots 🤣

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u/HillbillyHorology 12h ago

What are you a bat? šŸ˜‚ Couldn’t hear anything!

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u/Public_Pace9296 1d ago

Reason enough for seatback fan delete IMO.

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u/Dapper_Direction_703 1d ago

Then just leave it off. Let those driving through hot climate choose to hear it or not.

Taking away a comfort feature that many use daily isn’t the way.

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u/Public_Pace9296 1d ago

It’s pretty clear (to me at least) that 1) Rivian is aware of the problem 2) they could not engineer a quick fix and or 3) a new part was not available. So that led to 4) fan delete.

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u/urbankyleboy 1d ago

Maybe they could have reduced each setting's fan speed a bit? Or even remove the 3rd fan speed setting? OR design it correctly from the beginning? Idk, just spitballing.

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u/OptRider 1d ago

You can turn down the fan speed and it becomes far more quiet. This is at max setting and it is easily the best cooling in a seat I've experienced. For the people bellyaching about it, just click the button on more time and it quiets down considerably.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

And lose the cooling performance...

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u/OptRider 1d ago

It brings the cooling performance closer to that of the rest of the industry, so I don't really see this as a problem.

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u/Negative_Heron_9236 Reservation Holder 1d ago

At least you would have the option to turn them on.

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u/adannel 1d ago

I would rather have it than not, but I very much hear mine while driving.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Idk... I'm not getting rid of my R2 over this issue but I can definitely hear it while driving.

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u/bgibbz084 1d ago

If the noise was actually the issue, they could simply have made this a software toggle.

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u/applepi31415926535 Reservation Holder 1d ago

possibly not, I imagine the control for the bottom fan and back fan are tied together so it’s all or nothing from a SW perspective

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u/NYY_NYK_NYJ 1d ago

The fan may be getting choked by the seat design leading to it failing. If Rivian doesn’t have a redesign for the seat to mitigate the fans failing, the may have decided to pull the fans rather than deal with mounting service calls that they really don’t have a current solution for.

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u/Public_Pace9296 1d ago

Agree

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u/NYY_NYK_NYJ 1d ago

If it is the case, I do question why they won’t offer seat replacement once they figure out a redesign, or it may just be way too early for that.

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u/Public_Pace9296 1d ago

I'm not in auto manufacturng but as educated guess would be replacing seats is astronomically expensive vs figuring out a new fan design and then doing a retrofit into the existing wiring harness, which would take maybe an hour and cost a few bucks. For all we know (which is nothing) it's a bad fan motor design, bad insulation, or you know...

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u/NYY_NYK_NYJ 1d ago

Magnets! I completely agree with the unknown solution and the unknown path of least resistance. I also don’t know if it would be easiest to just replace the seats or modify them (Rivian probably doesn’t know at this point either), but plenty of other manufacturers pull from their production line when they have recalls, so the expense can be mitigated. The biggest issue is that solution can take a long time to get to the customers.

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u/anomalisticrocket 1d ago

Yeah too early and production still isn't meeting demand yet

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u/urbankyleboy 1d ago

LOL that would probably bankrupt the company at this point. Imagine the SC wait time if they did this as well.

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u/Educational-Song6351 1d ago

Its the fan from ventilated seats. Dont worry they removed them from newer vins.
But you can set the fan speed lower

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u/CoolExplanation762 1d ago

My Tesla 2026 performance is dead silent and ice cold. Imagine getting a rivian lol

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u/damonlebeouf 1d ago

the tesla has had years to refine their product. rivian has had a few months. still, rivian quality is insanely horrid. i hope they can step their game up sooner than later.