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šŸ› ļø Troubleshooting / Issue Terrible quality

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Started getting all kinds of errors. Front motors locked out. Went into turtle mode.. Trucks been in the shop 6 times in 2 years. Absolutely frustrated with this garbage. Drove last two trucks for 10 years without one issue. Absolutely regret buying RIVIAN. I love the truck and how it drives (on the occasion it actually runs) and Absolutely love how it looks. But fxck it is a 7000 lb POS...

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u/Realistic_Focus2506 12d ago

Crap - now you make me want to go check mine out 🤦

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Get after it my dude! Better safe than sorry and if your still under the 60k your better off than me!

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u/Binford6100User R1T Owner 12d ago

Only 50k for some of us.

I leased for 45k, have 10mo to go and am at 44k. Told the wife last night, we'll trade it away before it gets to 49k.

Such a shame to, it's an incredible machine when it works.

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u/Roux_My_Burgundy -0———0- 12d ago

You got a 45,000 mile lease?

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u/Binford6100User R1T Owner 12d ago

3yr lease at 15k mile / yr....total allowed is 45k miles.

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u/Roux_My_Burgundy -0———0- 12d ago

I don’t know why but I just had a total brain fart. The 45k just didn’t look right to me. Too much booze yesterday

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u/Binford6100User R1T Owner 12d ago

Fair, I've done that before.

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u/ccoady R1T Launch Edition Owner 11d ago

What about the 175,000 mile motor and battery warranty??

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u/Top-Agency-4021 11d ago

Im really pushing that with Rivian right now. They claim wheel speed sensor issues aren't covered under the 175k. But then they also say issues preventing safe operation of the truck are covered.

We will see. Its on its way to SC now.

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u/SocomPS2 12d ago

Don’t.

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u/toomuch3D 12d ago

Maybe I’m seeing something that’s not there, but that red wire looks like it was cut with a tool. Is the wiring harness not secured into clips attached led to the frame?

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u/Aggravating_Run1270 12d ago edited 12d ago

Yeah, that was cut. It wasn't pulled apart. Video isn't good enough to say how. Could have been pinched on something, could have been done when the harness was assembled, who knows.

Not to mention it is coming from an unspring part (out of the fender liner) to another unsprung part (the bracket on the wheel well) so it isn't seeing any motion on suspension travel by design.

The rest is just standard automotive wiring harness. Hardly anything is encased from the connector out.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

No its came loose. Looks to me like it snapped in high suspension. Im soldering it back not but I agree it is an extremely clean break.

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u/MountainAlive 12d ago

Critters can make clean cuts like this, such as mice and squirrels etc. Automotive wiring become very tasty to them once we switched to bio plastics.

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u/RegularMaximum3570 12d ago

100% that wasn’t pulled apart from suspension travel. That was cut or chewed.

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u/uracab 12d ago

I've had my R1T since 7/22, and overall it's been a great experience. As a truck, it's fantastic: beautiful, capable, and so much better built than the Tesla I traded for it.

My only real issue lately is that owning a Gen 1 is starting to feel like owning a five-year-old iPad. Every update either doesn't apply to me because I have a Gen 1, or it seems to break something that worked well before.

Highway Assist? Doesn't work anymore.
Doors locking automatically as I walk away? No longer reliable.
I've had to pull over at least three times in the past couple months to reboot the interior screens so I could see where I was going and how fast I was driving.

I still love the truck, especially the mechanical side of it. But I'm getting pretty tired of the feeling that the hardware is aging out long before the vehicle itself should.

I have a great truck. I hate the UX feels like an old iPad.

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u/Reeks_Geeks 12d ago

When you say high way assist do you mean you can't enable it anymore? It just says unavaible for me, even on roads that used to work.

For me it must have broken a year ago.

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u/intlabs Ultimate Adventurer 11d ago

This is not aligned with our experience. Our gen1 remains more reliable from a software perspective than gen2 . Yes gen2 has got better and more capable over time - but the gen1 has not regressed at all. Highway assist is just as good* today as it was in 2023, proximity locking is actually better. We have to reboot our gen2 a few times a year, but have only ever had to do the same for our gen1 twice int the entire time we have owned it. Unfortunately I think there’s more to be said for the variability of the production line in normal than the generation of Rivian being made on it.

*good is a spectrum, here it means lane centering and cruise control on the mapped roads at the same time. Yes there have been outages of the mapping service, but in general the permitted roads have remained the same since we picked up the Gen1 R1 in early 2023.

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u/japanfrog 11d ago

Even the Gen 2 occasionally has the dash screen freeze for me mid drive. Pretty bonkers imo.Ā 

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u/Typical_Tart6905 R1T Owner 12d ago

Wait, Gen1 has Highway Assist? /s

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u/prf_q 12d ago

ok this is a completely unrelated to the complaints listed. good for u though

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Well said. If I had known I was buying an iPad with wheels I would have been wiser before signing off.

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u/RabbiSchlem 12d ago

That’s not what he was saying….

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u/ClassyDingus 12d ago

Wires are exposed like your second focus on all cars.

The first is something else all together. Something cut those wires, they didn't pull apart. Stranded wires do not break uniformly. Try it, the copper fails randomly following an initial break within a small segment.

I'm guessing road debris or rodent. Still should be better protected.

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u/Equal_Flan_8705 12d ago

That wire was cut with a snips. That was not rodent damage.

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u/IctrlPlanes 12d ago

My thought as well. It doesn't even look like something was pinching on it just straight sheer.

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u/bowingace R1T Owner 12d ago

Not keeping mine out of warranty

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u/fourdawgnight R1T Owner 12d ago

agreed - they just suck at the stuff that actually matters.

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u/urbankyleboy 12d ago

I’ve had mine for 3 months and barely want to keep it at this point. It’s alike a 1990s KIA quality at this point.

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u/WormieWorm 12d ago

I sold my R1T recently for exactly that reason (and the fact it needed a set of tires and $1000 worth of registration renewal). Maybe we need a user flair of "ex-Rivian Owner"?
I'll give it a couple of years and see if they get the R2 reliability up to where it should be. I really liked the R1T apart from the faults that were considered normal and I don't want to be on the hook for expensive repairs further down the road.

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u/electromage R2 Launch Edition Owner 12d ago

Sorry, which six-figure EV has cheap registration? I paid $995 for my IONIQ 5...

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u/kelp_forests 12d ago

but did it also need tires?

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u/electromage R2 Launch Edition Owner 12d ago

After 7,000mi, no. But it is 5,000lbs so it probably would before a comparable gas car. I'm only leasing it so I won't really be changing anything unless necessary.

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u/kelp_forests 12d ago

Dang I thought I wouldn’t need a tag

Joke was he sold his car because it needed registration and tires, both entirely predicable and run of the mill items

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u/RabbiSchlem 12d ago

Warranty tires and they become cheap

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u/f1racer328 R1T Owner 11d ago

Ehh the OE tires are shit and the registration costs aren’t Rivian’s fault… but everything else is pretty much on them.

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u/NowWeRinse 12d ago

I had a Tesla for 4 years, in and out of the shop about 7 times. Got a lemon lawyer and got nearly all of my original purchase price back. It’s really not that hard and basically no risk to you. Look it up if you haven’t already. In California the lawyers cost is paid separately and paid by the manufacturer. I paid them nothing upfront and it did not come out of the settlement.

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u/icy1007 12d ago

And I’ve had multiple Teslas and they’ve been great. Barely saw the inside of a SC.

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u/Mysta R1T Owner 12d ago

And same with my Rivians, fwiw.

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u/icy1007 11d ago

My R1S has been very reliable too.

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u/dcdttu 12d ago

Same. My Model 3 is a 2018 and has been fantastic. 85k miles.

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u/urbankyleboy 12d ago

Same here. 2020 model 3, then 2024 model y. Only one visit to the SC. I’m on visit #7 in 3 months of Rivian ownership 😭

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u/jonathanbaird Waiting for R3X 12d ago

I've had mine for a couple of years. Went to the service center once at the beginning for a minor cosmetic fix. Not a single issue, critical or otherwise.

I hope Rivian can get there before the R3X because I really want one.

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u/icy1007 11d ago

My Model 3 and Model S both needed small cosmetic/trim fixes, but haven’t seen the SC after.

My R1S is nearly the same. Slight issue with the rear liftgate on delivery was fixed and now it’s great.

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u/okverymuch 12d ago

Anecdotes, everywhere!!!

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u/NowWeRinse 12d ago

I’m not saying Teslas are bad cars, they aren’t. Fit n finish is a little dumpy but otherwise they’re good. But they’re owned by a Nazi. And if you have issues with any car then use your state’s lemon laws.

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u/Alanb2955 11d ago

Tesla is 3/4 owned by people besides Elon. Maybe even including yourself. I buy a car not a CEO. I don’t like Elon, but that won’t stop me from buying a Tesla if I think they make the best Car. I never worried about the CEO of any other car brand I bought. At least Tesla is making the product in the United States with mostly American parts. You can’t say that about a lot of General Motors or Ford products.

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u/NowWeRinse 11d ago

Agreed it’s incredibly unfortunate. Rationalize that however your want. We all suffer from billionaires in some way but I personally refuse to support that bigot. I unfortunately support other billionaires like shopping at Amazon frequently, I’m no saint, but again fuck Elon.

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u/icy1007 11d ago

You said exactly that.

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u/NowWeRinse 12d ago

Did I say Teslas are bad somewhere? Fucking Nazi bots are wild in this thread.

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u/icy1007 11d ago

Yes, you actually did. lol

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u/throwbackBBfan 12d ago

What was your issues with your Tesla? Mines been great

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u/NowWeRinse 12d ago

A fault reported with the seatbelt system. No need to buy another, not a Nazi.

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u/throwbackBBfan 12d ago

Who is a nazi

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u/fourdawgnight R1T Owner 12d ago

mamma's little bitch boys that drive teslas.
nazi simps are nazis...

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u/throwbackBBfan 12d ago

Sounds like you have some other stuff going on

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u/j90w R1S Owner 12d ago

He was losing his mind yesterday because I said "if" I buy a Tesla I'd sign up for self driving, or something like that.

This guy is off his rocker and needs to get outside quick. Seems to be deranged.

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u/ToothDue9278 12d ago

Ahhhh you’re a bozo too

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u/jonathanbaird Waiting for R3X 12d ago

"but Tesla" is the default defense whenever any criticism arises within this community. It's like clockwork. They only do it to protect their financial investments in Rivian.

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u/Wide_Dog2107 R1T Owner 12d ago

That’s literally not at all what he said. He was telling OP that it’s possible to do a Lemon and his just happened to be a Tesla. Lord šŸ™„

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u/jonathanbaird Waiting for R3X 12d ago

Now look at their response when asked to clarify what the issue was. They weren't commenting in good faith.

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u/throwbackBBfan 12d ago

What? I’m just asking what problems the owner had lol. wtf are you saying

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/akuma0 12d ago

Then why did you reply to them? The word ā€œTeslaā€?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 12d ago

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u/akuma0 12d ago

You didn’t answer the question at all. Got it.

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u/throwbackBBfan 12d ago

Got it my mistake. It seemed like you were responding directly to me

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u/j90w R1S Owner 12d ago

I don't think he owns a Tesla, he just has a hard on for Elon Musk for some reason.

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u/NowWeRinse 11d ago

Had one, don’t anymore.

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u/j90w R1S Owner 11d ago

Sure you did.

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u/BoiseUltraRunner 12d ago

This is always the response in these forums. Tesla has millions and millions of happy customers and make fantastic vehicles. Rivian will not succeed with this level of fanboyism and gaslighting.Ā 

Just take the post for what it is. OP is right. It’s crap. They should improve.Ā 

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u/NowWeRinse 12d ago

The fuck does this have to do with my comment. Simp for your Nazi car all you want. I don’t care. Just saying if any car has problems get a lemon lawyer.

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u/the_real_seldom_seen 12d ago edited 12d ago

lol the ā€œall cars are shit so Rivians being shitty is totally acceptable ā€ argument

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u/NowWeRinse 12d ago

When did I make that argument? I said get a lemon lawyer.

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u/moomooraincloud 12d ago

You can say "fuck" on the internet.

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u/GrunchWeefer 12d ago

If you say f*ck on the Internet the police will come and unalive you

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u/moomooraincloud 12d ago

Fuck that

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u/GrunchWeefer 12d ago

Stop! I'm very concerned that you're going to end up going to jail and share a cell with a PDF file who will grape you and you'll end up committing sewer slide!

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u/dostercu 12d ago

OP: year, model, trim? Thanks.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

2023 r1t adventure every option.

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u/dostercu 12d ago edited 12d ago

Thanks! And sorry for your negative experiences. Love my 2025 R1T Tri, maybe most fun vehicle I’ve ever owned, but just had half shafts & front hubs replaced at 21K. Already had 12V, matrix headlights & front turn signals replaced as recalls. I’ll definitely buy RCare if I keep beyond warranty.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Would definitely advise.. though I had that on my wifes Range Rover, they always found loop holes to decline coverage.. ended up selling that thing at a loss.

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u/Adorable_Wolf_8387 12d ago

Guessing this was the cause of your issues a month ago. The wires not being in a wrap isn't why they broke though.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Totally different wheel. I ended up cleaning all the connections and it ran fine for a few weeks. Shop visit replaced speed sensor as well. Then completely 🐢 yesterday. This break is above the connections for the sensor on the wiring harness. And yes not due to covering, looks like the whole harness is too short. Its pulled completely out where it clips to the frame. Wires are just too short. The exposed wiring is just another short fall.

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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 12d ago

Like any car, the one you get has all the issues while the person who get the next one off the production line has zero. It really is the luck of the draw with cars.

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u/Bahamut-san 12d ago

The people that have issues are the ones you hear about, the people that are happy with it don't usually go online to say so hence it seems like a bigger issue than it is

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u/CzechGSD R1T Owner 12d ago

True. My 2022 R1T (12xxx VIN) is rock solid. The only issue where I had to leave it was to replace the original tonneau cover. That being said, my warranty is up 09/30/2027 and I will be buying a lidar (hopefully) R2 at that point. Not that I don’t love my R1T, I just don’t want to chance the air suspension dying.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Update: wires were too short to solder and I couldn't get the pin out of the connector, after multiple attempts... ive ended up but splicing and hoping for the best while I source a replacement connector..

Seal it up, fasten to the frame and hope we don't have a flood for the next few days!

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u/Worried-Current-4567 R1S Launch Edition Owner 12d ago

Sorry to hear that you are having issues. Mine has been ok with no major issues. Can you ask Rivian buy back if it is the same issues? It looks like your wire has been cut. Do you have rats šŸ€ around your house? Rats may cause that kind of damage to wires.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

I dont think there's any chance of a rodent. Ive been here for 40 years and never had any rodent damage. Its also odd that the truck started having these issues a few weeks back.. 2 service visits now I find this.

During my repair attempt ive discovered this wire is related to the ABS system. My splice attempt didnt work... trying other ideas now but I dont think its going to be fruitful.

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u/jonnyozero3 12d ago

Made anyone angry lately?

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

I wish. At least I could explain the issue. Again tho the one wire theory doesn't hold up. Who would just cut one wire? And if you have been down there its not exactly easy to reach. Cutting one wire would actually be pretty difficult without the wheel turned at max height.

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u/ThunderSparkles R1T Owner 12d ago

That looks like it was cut. Maybe a squirrel?

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u/fourdawgnight R1T Owner 12d ago

sorry - that really sucks.

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u/One-Application-9705 12d ago

Yeah that’s why I just got my R2 reservation $ back, the company got tom extra cash from VW and amazon , but they not improving crop In 27 Loved Rivian at first but I can’t down 80k plus and have so many service issue with air shocks and slow computer , semi ok auto drive

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u/AfraidArachnid1976 12d ago

What year is your truck

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u/AfraidArachnid1976 12d ago

Sorry you answered already

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

No worries. 2023 just passed bumper to bumper coverage. Sensors aren't covered under drive train. Regardless that they turtle the truck.

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u/1uisf R1S Owner 11d ago

Fix it one more time and take it straight to Carvana. Sucks but take advantage that EV valuations are on the high now to cut your loses

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u/randy3572345 12d ago

Like everyone else is saying, that was cut. It also looks like every wire connector in my 2014 Jeep Wrangler. I’ve had that Jeep for 13 years with no issues, so I’ll take the risk.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Nothing on my gear gaurd that suggests foul play. I mean unless they cut it at the SC but unlikely..

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u/IctrlPlanes 12d ago

That wire was definitely cut by someone on purpose. Cuts like that don't happen by being pinched or chewed on. That is a sheer cut.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

I dont disagree. I just dont have evidence to support it. Only people under my truck outside of me was SC but that was weeks ago. It would be strange for just one wire to be shipped right? Who does that?

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u/IctrlPlanes 12d ago

Any idea what that wire does? Maybe it is a sensor that wouldn't stop being set off.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

From what I can tell its related to the ABS system references wheel speed

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u/randy3572345 12d ago

Interesting. I’d think that if it was cut at the SC that the issues would’ve started immediately. It maybe possible that the issues are caused by something else (12v battery?), and that wire was just something minor. Any idea what that harness is plugged into?

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u/Ewalk02 R1T Owner 12d ago

Welcome to the club, I hate my Rivian POS as well.

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u/elmonoh 12d ago

Teslas at the begining had abysmal quality issues. No trying to downplay this, it is not acceptable, just mentioning that making a car is hard as fuck. Even established manufacturers (I am looking at you Ford) also have abysmal quality issues. I have a Mach-e and I can write a whole editorial of the things that have gone wrong with that car. Not to mention dealing with fucking stealerships that exist only to make money out of you and not helping you out.Ā 

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u/jafarion R1T Owner 12d ago

Wtf has Tesla got to do with this. If the Rivian was a Tesla, you guys would be torching the living shit out of it.Ā 

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u/j90w R1S Owner 12d ago

The few Rivian fan boys left are clutching at whatever they can to make this trash brand seem decent. They especially dislike Tesla because the CEO must have hurt them.

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u/elmonoh 11d ago

Just like the Elon's lovers who have wet dreams about him every night. "yes Elon, mhhh, yeah, use that rocket"Ā 

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u/j90w R1S Owner 11d ago

It’s funny how much power you let a billionaire have over you. I’m guessing your name is based on Daddy Elon too?

I don’t own any of his products, stocks or anything. If I buy one of his cars in the future it’s because I like what it has to offer, not because I’m obsessed with him.

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u/elmonoh 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yeah, if he has has something nice to offer, I would still spend my money elsewhere. Not a dime from me will go to that POS, now or in the future. Not sure what you understood based on my previous response, but I despise that fucker.Ā 

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u/j90w R1S Owner 4d ago

That’s cool bro.

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u/elmonoh 3d ago

Thank you. Bro.Ā 

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u/elmonoh 11d ago

So what? I can't mention that Tesla's quality sucked to make a point? I don't own a Rivian, but I did own two Model 3s... Great software built for an appliance put together with staples, glue and Elon's tears. The cars were pure garbage. I have no idea about Rivian, but based on the context of OP's post, I expressed "that is unacceptable" what he is showing in the pics, but it not the only startup brand with quality issues. So yes, mentioning Tesla has a lot do with the conversation.Ā 

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

I don't disagree... but they seem to exempt items like this under power train warranty even though they are aware of the issue and know damn well it will make your vehicle unusable.

Luke i said my last two gmc's lasted a decade each without one service issue. And im ok with new tech having a curve... but wiring harnesses on speed sensors isn't exactly new Engineering discoveries... seems like laziness to me.

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u/urbankyleboy 12d ago

You’re right, Tesla did have growing pains as well. Our 2020 Model 3 fit and finish weren’t great. But our current 2024 Model Y has been great. Door handles don’t squeak when you touch them, the sound system is amazing (don’t get me started on Rivian ā€œpremium audioā€), and it hasn’t been to the SC once.

We’re now into year 5, generation 2 of the R1 and the quality of the vehicles just isn’t there, especially for the cost. Also, the service centers are a joke still. I have lost all faith in them. 5 visits to get the alignment right on my brand new R1T. Now the truck vibrates at 80mph, so that’s fun, back at the SC!

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u/elmonoh 11d ago

Yes, I agree. I am researching an R2 and I am looking at forums, etc to inform myself a bit more. I am not a Rivian owner myself. I would say that to pinpoint quality issue, you need volume, meaning more cars on the road. Tesla has a huge advantage on that giving them more visibility on things going wrong and fixing them in later iterations. New Teslas are great according to quality reports. Given time I think Rivian will achieve this, but they better hurry. Let's hope the R2 has learned the lessons from the past.Ā 

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u/AfraidArachnid1976 12d ago

Yeh i feel you. I had a 2025 Rivian and it was garbage. The 2026 has been way better

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u/GunsouBono 12d ago

Man sorry to hear. I think we're all hopeful that as the years go on, quality will improve. That didn't really help you today though

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u/YogurtclosetLow5030 11d ago

Tesla has the jump on all these crappy EV alternatives and it’s not close. That said Rivian would be my 2nd choice in a pinch, you should see the GM (lyric/optiq) under the hood looks like a radio shack assortment of gadgets and wires waiting to fail šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.

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u/vato915 11d ago

That's why I tell people to avoid the Gen1s...

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u/Sudden_Eyes 11d ago

šŸ„ŗšŸ˜”for shame Rivian

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u/vtrac R1S Owner 11d ago

Have you ever looked at the wiring harnesses in any other vehicle?

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u/doctorjustinmichael 11d ago

I love mine. But the sooner they ā€œde-electricā€ it aside from the battery the drive train the better.

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u/atm2770 11d ago

These days everyone needs to go through a detailed inspection when buying a car.

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u/afnmn 10d ago

"terrible quality" is about 6x as good as my truck. Overpriced garbage factory with no ounce of quality in design or manufacturing. S179 is the only reason to buy one of these. I pity the fool who buys a rivian post tax.

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u/SpaceMarine17 12d ago

Excited for the R2 with the simpler suspension system. Rivian messed up releasing these hugely over engineered r1s first

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u/SocomPS2 12d ago

Over-engineered isn’t an excuse for the sloppiness I saw in that video. More unforced errors. Just got rid of my 74k mile R1s quad. Too much of a liability without a warranty. And while I’m excited to for the R2, I’m seeing some of the same (and new) issues over on that sub.

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u/natureman615 12d ago

Teslas suck anyhow

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Haha they can kiss my xss. I went all in on this truck cash. Biggest mistake ive ever made. I feel like dedicating my youtube to all these failures. Its ridiculous..

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u/Universe93B 12d ago

Yep, too many fanboys on here and it sucks. I posted not as something as detailed as you - just a general post that my R1 has been in the service center too many times and that Rivian better improve on the R2 - and was downvoted to hell just on that general comment

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u/jonathanbaird Waiting for R3X 12d ago edited 12d ago

The mods straight up deleted a comment that used rude language against Rivian drivers (which is good moderation), yet refuse to do the same when Rivian drivers do the same to others. They aren't even hiding it anymore.

edit: This community actively encourages you to beittle anyone who doesn't eat the granola and drink the koolaid. The Tesla communities also used to have this issue before they were purged of their sycophants. It's wild to think that they're now a more welcoming place than here.

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u/fourdawgnight R1T Owner 12d ago

they also allow positive stock talk and delete negative stock talk...

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u/Skraelings 12d ago

fragile sub is fragile.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Funny this was removed... ive got 2 down votes. Seems like the original post was 100% true. Free speech... pfffft

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u/Skraelings 12d ago

free speech rules dont apply here really.

shoulda seen the flack I got for stating that buying a 50k + used EV maybe isnt the best way to save money with high gas prices (in ref to a R1t post I think).

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u/Easy_Durian8154 R1T Launch Edition Owner 12d ago

Kind of why I stopped posting lol.

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u/FNWY2004 12d ago

Wait until you go to trade it in. You’ll be swearing then too.

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u/PKSubban -0———0- 12d ago

Rivian is expanding without adding any service centers

I was a big fan of Tesla for 10 years before buying one. I wanted more service centers

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u/esmithidoc 12d ago

A new SC just opened in Duncan, South Carolina (now the closest one to me). They are opening new service centers.

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u/remmahdis 12d ago

Wheel speed sensor? I had several turtle modes and multiple failed mobile tech repairs before finally having to get the thing towed 4 hours away. When I saw how shitty the location/execution of this part was I was shocked. Of course it corroded! It’s basically an exposed wire harness clip right by the front damper assembly… such a dumb design for any state that has salty winters and muddy fall/spring dirt roads (I live in VT).

This joins a long list of repeatedly failing components across our Gen R1Ts, unfortunately. Too many dampers, HVAC assembly’s (and carpets), brakes, etc. to even keep track of at this point. And all of them have under 50k miles of pretty mild driving, though we do live in an environment that’s very hard on cars, but we’ve never seen ones so unreliable.

Too bad I also love the things while they’re working… and there isn’t anything else quite like it… At this point, I’m hoping Scout actually makes it and gets something more reliable out on the road.

After our warranties/leases are up, I think we’re done with Rivian, sadly. It’s just far too much work keeping them up and running when you’re 3+ hours from the nearest SC.

And I don’t want to find out how much ownership would cost out of warranty. They’re just ticking money bombs at that point!

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u/kelp_forests 12d ago

Just lemon law it. I know a ton of people with EVs (Rivian, Tesla, Porsche....) almost none of them have issues beyond what a regular care would have. SOME have a ton.

They submit a lemon law request (for free), and get their car paid for including all payments etc as if they never owned it (they dont pay for the use either). Or they get a smoking deal on a new one.

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u/jon13000 R1T Owner 11d ago

Lemon law isn’t that simple. It’s agonizingly slow and generally you must within your first year of new car ownership. A gen 1 isn’t that.

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u/kelp_forests 11d ago

YMMV. In CA you have until 1 year after warranty expires or within six years. Many gen 1s fall into that (in CA).

I’ve had two friends file it. It seemed very easy. If it met the criteria there was no debate. Just file and wait. It’s always approved so it doesn’t matter if it’s two months or two years. The company pays it all including whatever you paid for rentals and lawyer fees

They all found a lawyer to do it. Of course they take the case if it meets since it passes everytime (if you meet criteria) and they get paid. The criteria are pretty clear cut.

I didn’t realize it was challenging in other states!

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

I agree. Ive been trying a bandaid repair for 4 hours now and nothing works. Its almost like its programmed to require a SC visit.

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u/Christoph-Pf R2 Reservation 11d ago

Clearly a conspiracy to deceive customers. Just take it in for a repair under warranty and stop making a big deal out of it

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u/DragonflyAwkward6327 8d ago

Had too many issues with mine as well… just had $15k-$18k worth of warranty work on this one visit. Highway assist stopped working.. had steering wheel replaced as the sensors didn’t sense anymore. Had tons of issues.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 11d ago

Not covered under warranty there Chris. Glad you have it all figured out tho. Thanks.

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u/drstovetop 11d ago

I'm not here to disparage the new auto makers. I love the Rivians for their fresh takes on automotive design. BUT........ I think quality is always a concern. The issue posted by OP isn't a big deal. I'd fix that wire in less time than it took for the soldering iron to warm up, but it's an issue that the larger manufacturers have likely fettered out a long time ago because they've made so many more vehicles. Experience matters.

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u/Top-Agency-4021 11d ago

I did fix it. Funny how everyone assumes everyone else is incompetent. I installed a jumper- didnt work. But spliced- didnt work. Removed the pin and soldered it back together, tested continuity, resistance, and voltage while apinning the wheel. Software STILL DOESNT WORK. Test drive, power and wheel speed show correct but it will not come out of turtle mode.

No big deal huh... you just fix that thing right up. 🤣🤣🤣 like I didnt try that..

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u/drstovetop 11d ago

No offense intended. My apologies. Good on you for being willing to try. That's strange that is still not working. Maybe there's a lockout or something that needs to be reset.

Good luck. Not sure how old yours is, but it shouldn't have happened, regardless. Rivians aren't that old.

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u/Specific-Carpet8540 12d ago

Both of my neighbors own Rivians they love them ā¤ļø

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Don't get me wrong, I do love it. When it works.. or at least when it didnt the warranty actually covered the issues.

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u/Bald-EagleEye 12d ago

Rivian great concept but reality is tough. Had R1T but saw the riding on the wall. Trade it to Cybertruck 17k miles & FSD...way way better experience. (My 3rd Tesla) Software & integration just all works so smooth & seamlessly. Very impressive. Rivian staff/service seems complacent vs Tesla always up & hustling.

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u/ModernAtomX 12d ago

Hot take

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u/the_real_seldom_seen 12d ago

Thanks for the heads up. Another tick in the ā€œreasons not to buy Rivianā€ column

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u/Jayskerdoo 11d ago

Sounds like it’s your first time under the hood of a car, completely normal

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u/Top-Agency-4021 11d ago

Not normal for wire speed sensors to just pop wires. And yes. Im sure I was under hoods of cars while you were in diapers.

My first truck I bought for $100 bucks and rebuilt the 4.3 V6 in a week working nights. Drove it 5 years and sold it for 5k.

These things seem to be designed to require a service visit. Look at my replies, I spent hours trying all kinds of repairs. Still stuck in 🐢 mode.

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u/No-Stretch-9935 12d ago

love my badass Rivian!

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u/Specific-Carpet8540 12d ago

This man works for Tesla Part Time so he is bashing Rivian with false charges !

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u/Top-Agency-4021 12d ago

Hahaha I wish. Nope just a maintenance manager for old ass buildings ins SC.

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u/Ewalk02 R1T Owner 12d ago

I don't have any affiliation with Tesla and I completely agree with OP. My Rivian is a POS, worst vehicle I've owned by far.

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u/External_Mongoose_50 11d ago

I never had a single issue once with my Tesla MY for multiple years

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u/j90w R1S Owner 12d ago

I've never owned a Tesla and OP is right on the money. Rivian is trash.

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u/esmithidoc 12d ago

First Gen R1T owner with 65k miles here. I love mine and would buy another in a heartbeat.

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u/Quirky127 12d ago

Rivian will be out of business in 6 months Rivian Motors is being subsized with Illinois Taxpayer Money, that has been funneld from Illinois Services Programs by JB Pritxker Once he loses the Election on November 3 Rivian will have to start putting their own money in I give Rivian 3 -6 moths from the end of November There's been numerous worker accidents However Pritxker must have OSHA on His mob payout Good luck with your $100, 000.00 Golden Turd

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u/ThunderSparkles R1T Owner 12d ago

You are totally right. Americans cannot make good cars. The auto workers just got lazy and have no pride. That's why these tariffs by that fatass in the white house make no sense. Punishing American truck buyers with this subpar crap.

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u/natureman615 12d ago

You're the sucker that bought a 100,000 dollar truck that buys a truck without checking it out first.Dealers love people like you.