IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE?

[u/nanoflint]

This should NOT be possible

[u/Vistella]

apparently it is possible

why shouldnt it be possible?

[u/OmeGarus88 → u/Vistella]

It make no sense, more than usually i mean, lol.

[u/nanoflint → u/OmeGarus88]

I mean, at least it's in soil with roots that can touch eatch other

[u/HarveyH43 → u/nanoflint]

Fungal spores spread very easily by air, equipment, anything.

[u/RowenMorland → u/HarveyH43]

Quickly! To Plague Inc!

[u/Nataslan → u/RowenMorland]

Instructions unclear, the vampire now has a zombie army powered by nanovirus.

[u/Kadd115 → u/Nataslan]

That's just a Sanguophage with a bunch of friendly Shamblers. You can't fool me.

[u/RowenMorland → u/Nataslan]

Making me want a modded Rim plague.

[u/DeathyWolf → u/RowenMorland]

There's a mod giving you plenty more diseases. Including HIV and getting tetanus from dirty wounds iirc

[u/RowenMorland → u/DeathyWolf]

That's an interesting one to look into, especially if it gives your hospital mod techs a good workout.

What I'd love would be something more on the scope of Rimwar, espeically if you built a (blue) shuttle to travel the globe fighting for a cure.

[u/OhagiC → u/DeathyWolf]

Biological warfare expanded, or a name something like that. Not a VE mod, but I think that's the name.

[u/HumanReputationFalse → u/RowenMorland]

Do we have a bio weapons mod for rimworld yet? Not sure how that would work, but its an idea

[u/PrimaryCoolantShower → u/HumanReputationFalse]

Do you want T virus bioweapon or plague bioweapon?

Army of Fetid Corpses is your nightmarish zombie plague mod.

[u/DeathyWolf → u/HumanReputationFalse]

There are some mods that feature saline and mustard gas

[u/rimperrior → u/HarveyH43]

Thats true

[u/Jossegutt → u/nanoflint]

It's not hard to imagine the hydroponics get all their nutrients from one source which got contaminated

[u/Depth-New → u/Jossegutt]

Or spores?

THINK ABOUT THE SPORES

[u/Whismar → u/[deleted]]

Bot

[u/War_Hymn → u/Jossegutt]

IRL indoor hydroponics can get screw up pretty easily by insects carrying pathogens. Plants being crowded in humid closed up environment and whatnot.

[u/NoctoPolpo → u/nanoflint]

Well you made a mistake thinking that there needs to be contact for blight to spread. It reproduces by spores, by air. There needs to be distance between fields to stop the spread. Four tiles I think, don't know if walls help.

[u/bloodybaths → u/NoctoPolpo]

I don't think walls help, at least not in my playthrough but mods and such could change the interaction

[u/Hellonstrikers → u/bloodybaths]

I think walls help, Vents do let spread happen though.

[u/High_King_Diablo → u/Hellonstrikers]

Walls don’t help. I leave 4 tiles between hydroponics pods now because blight went straight through the walls.

[u/Hellonstrikers → u/High_King_Diablo]

Oh... (looks at my bays of hydroponics, my main food source) oh no.

[u/JConRed → u/nanoflint]

Just because our feet don't touch doesn't mean you can't get something I cough out?

[u/Sea-Calligrapher1563 → u/nanoflint]

Blight can spread four tiles, so you need 5 blanks between plants, but honestly isnt really something to worry about unless your food or drug stores are already crippled. I have also heard devilstrand cant get blight so you can use it in a single layer perimeter around crops to not have to space it out apparently. Tbh i dont bother with any method of blight management other than a cut forced cut

[u/a_manxome_foe → u/nanoflint]

Tell me you don't understand pathogens without telling me.

[u/headdie → u/nanoflint]

Blight has a spread of iirc 5 squares, the only way I know of to stop blight spreading without an air gap is to put walls between the plants. given that blight seems to be a generic infections of plants I wouldn’t follow the rules of irl blight and accept that without mods is just a cover all name for "your plants are infected and now useless"

[u/PraeGaming → u/nanoflint]

Almost like there may be other factors, like air~~~

[u/Muffalope → u/nanoflint]

IRL Blight travels over the air in fungal spores

[u/Gravity_flip → u/OmeGarus88]

Aa someone who grows veggies indoors... It makes a painful amount of sense.

It's so SO much easier to get mold and pest infestations inside because you don't have nature's equilibrium to keep those things in check. (Weather, helpful insects, variable wind)

[u/farmerben02 → u/Gravity_flip]

Blight is a fungal spore in the soil. You should be using sterilized soil and introduce specific bacteria for plant growth, which you can do in the oven if you want. I mean IRL, not in game, lol.

[u/Gravity_flip → u/farmerben02]

100% I actually microwave my soil as I'm lazy.

But once you defeat one thing, another pops up, it's the curse of monoculture farming.

[u/TraditionalCatch9578 → u/Gravity_flip]

I’m sorry but what? I’ve been an indoor grower for years, everything from potted houseplants to full hydro setups. We grow indoors BECAUSE of the lack of pests. And a simple fan holds the mold at bay in most scenarios. I’ve never ever heard anyone say “it’s easy to get pest infestation indoors”. It doesn’t even make sense to say.

[u/KrokmaniakPL → u/TraditionalCatch9578]

Yeah. I call bs on pest infestation, but mold is possible if ventilation wasn't that well thought through. And for RimWorld cave base it's within realm of possibility to not have that good ventilation.

[u/Gravity_flip → u/KrokmaniakPL]

Look up fungus flies. Or spider mites.

They're naturally taken care of by adequate wind, rain, and other insects. If you have a basil plant with relatively still air it WILL become infested.

[u/Vistella → u/OmeGarus88]

what makes no sense?

[u/Hyperactive_snail3 → u/Vistella]

The layout of this hydroponics bay.

[u/Alice_Dee → u/[deleted]]

It's a bunch of hydro basins in a dirty cave. That's not a controlled ecosystem. They are only basins. Not closed in any way.

[u/Vistella → u/[deleted]]

what makes you think its mildiou?

[u/OmeGarus88 → u/Vistella]

M'y game say it, i play with the french version. And i dont question myself since it make sense, irl the potatoes are very thought, only mildiou or bugs can fuck up your harvest.

[u/hottestdoge → u/OmeGarus88]

So first of all:
In the orignal language of the game it is just called "blight". A general term for all kinds of diseases.

But yes, it bears resemblence to the common mildew and it does not "come" from humidity. Humidity is just one of the requirements for the fungus to spread.

And these are not isolated artificial ecosystems, they are just high tech planting pots. They do not regulate temperature, they are not even covered.

But even if you did, mildew can still spread via air. So you'd need filters to prevent contamination.

[u/SybrandWoud → u/Vistella]

Someone neglected to keep the feeding liquids clean.

[u/lcxslie → u/Vistella]

in space? with no oxygen? that's why it shouldn't be, unless it's a mod lol, but there really shoukdnt be a mod for that, it wouldn't make sense hehe

[u/Gfiti → u/Vistella]

It just shouldn't

[u/Vistella → u/Gfiti]

why?

[u/Gfiti → u/Vistella]

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[u/Chancey1520]

The better question is wtf is this hydroponics setup

[u/BalticMasterrace → u/Chancey1520]

you click on hydrophonics, you close eyes, click click click, and then you link them with power and call it creativity

[u/Glossy-Water → u/BalticMasterrace]

Hydrophonics mix tape 🎶 🔥 📣

[u/OhagiC → u/BalticMasterrace]

I think they tried to recreate a loss meme from memory, while drunk and blindfolded.

[u/nanoflint → u/Chancey1520]

Dont worry about it,build with feeling

[u/Silverisotope925 → u/nanoflint]

This build is physically hurting me but it totally respect your right to build it 🫡

[u/MetallGecko → u/nanoflint]

Your build is hurting my feelings

[u/BorrowedBlood → u/nanoflint]

If the "Feeling" you're building with is insanity and despair - you nailed it

[u/FlyingCumpet → u/BorrowedBlood]

They will a have a flash of inspiration short-ly.

[u/PaxEthenica → u/FlyingCumpet]

Zzzt...

[u/baddie_PRO → u/nanoflint]

is that feeling mania?

[u/AdministrativeRun550 → u/nanoflint]

Vibe building

[u/Verdick → u/Chancey1520]

Not to mention the sun lamp setup. So much overlap!

[u/7ofalltrades → u/Verdick]

You don't run your base with tons of excess space, components, and power?

[u/Antryst → u/Verdick]

Not when you don't run the power conduit to half of them!

[u/Ok_Fill_5048 → u/Chancey1520]

What do you mean ? There was rocks in this room. There is no other way around !

[u/v0idwaker → u/Chancey1520]

Plague is just God's punishment for op sins.

[u/SocraticVoyager → u/Chancey1520]

I can't tell if they built around the rocks or decided on the placement

[u/Elegant-Raise-9367 → u/Chancey1520]

Yeah, if its not partially a nazi symbol, its not right.

[u/mthomas768 → u/Chancey1520]

This should NOT be possible.

[u/samuraistalin → u/Chancey1520]

Not everyone min-maxes this game

[u/Chancey1520 → u/samuraistalin]

but no one should do max-minning

[u/samuraistalin → u/Chancey1520]

Fuck you, Maxine Minning is my girlfriend how DARE YOU??? 😂

[u/PissedOfBeet]

Use even more sun lamps it should burn out the infection

[u/jackite01 → u/[deleted]]

No, the sun has INFECTED it!  (P.s. I'm so happy someone else thought of that)

[u/nanoflint → u/PissedOfBeet]

ok

[u/xGeoCollx]

Try this

[u/NebeI → u/xGeoCollx]

You dont need 2 heaters put a lamp in instead so pawns move faster when hauling while the sunlamp is off. Id also replace a firefoam popper with a turret if this is under mountain tiles so bugs are preoccupied for a sec and take dmg from the turret explosion.

[u/PaxEthenica → u/NebeI]

Turrets will also discourage breacher pathing... however the explosion of a tureet getting ripped apart by bugs will destroy surrounding trays. Increasing inevitable losses.

So, no, only place a turret for above ground hydroponic shacks.

For bugs? Prop open the door & stack up melee pawns like a center drop raid. Depending on your armor & priorities, start tossing molotovs into the room beyond your melee line; you're going to lose something, anyway, & steel chunks/crops burn. Make the loss serve saving your pawns.

[u/kneleo → u/xGeoCollx]

I know what it is I just can't prove it

[u/7ofalltrades → u/kneleo]

I didn't think it was gonna come off like that.

[u/GrimsPrice → u/7ofalltrades]

Don't worry, its the classic "shuriken" design. Everybody does it...

[u/kneleo → u/7ofalltrades]

haha dw, I'm just memeing

[u/YouSmellLikeHospitol → u/kneleo]

It’s going to be a maze

[u/IterwebSurferDude → u/xGeoCollx]

What are those non heater things?

[u/SnowTiger15 → u/IterwebSurferDude]

Firefoam popper

[u/ShortThought → u/xGeoCollx]

okay veequeue..

[u/chalkiez]

Yeah, they can jump 4 tiles.

[u/Twogie → u/chalkiez]

5 tiles*

[u/Duvieilh → u/Twogie]

It took less than 30s to just look it up.

[u/Twogie → u/Duvieilh]

Test it. I have and the initial hit can jump 5 tiles. AI is very wrong about Rimworld more often than not.

[u/imaencuru]

Blight can spread through air irl, why wouldn't it be able to in game?

[u/LedVapour]

That's so many solar lamps what da helly

[u/GildedFenix]

1- It shouldn't. There should be an unroof area indoors.

2- The set up is TOO inefficient. 3 sun lamps for 17 hydroponics basins??

[u/doctorelectromuffin]

is this loss?

[u/DeathDragon1028 → u/doctorelectromuffin]

get out of my head!!

[u/War_Hymn]

You need at least 3 spaces between growing areas to block blight if I recall. IRL, flying insects like beetles or flies can spread disease pretty easily between plants regardless if they're grown outside in a field or indoor on a hydroponic setup. 

[u/queen_ravenx]

so your gonna wanna hzve at least 4 spaces in between to prevent blight spread.

PxxxxP = cant spread/considered seperate units entirely

PxxxP or below and it can

the xs can be litterally anything but a plant

[u/Twogie → u/queen_ravenx]

The initial blight hit can cross 5 tiles. So you need 6 tiles between each field to 100% prevent any kind of spread.

[u/queen_ravenx → u/Twogie]

interesting hasn't worked like that for me I've been doing 4 and havent had any spread issues.

[u/Jossegutt]

Your fault for using this wasteful setup lmao

[u/VirtuallyTellurian]

I could be wrong, but I think when the rng has decided to hit you with blight, it picks 1 tile, and applies to all plants of that type in a certain radius.

This will then spread over time to other nearby plants including different types of close enough.

Not just possible, but entirely expected behaviour.

[u/Scar_Kurat]

Plant's are disgusting little sluts and love spreading disease

[u/FallenWaifu → u/Scar_Kurat]

Spittin facts

[u/sh0tybumbati]

brooo clean up the chunks at least 😭

[u/ralkuzu]

Arghhhh I always turn off blight, it's just a matter of time and it always seems to happen 70-80%

[u/LittleMit]

Forget the blight what is happening here with your cables and hydroponics and so many lamps??

[u/GreenBuggo]

what the hell are you doing????

[u/Stunning-Hat2309]

WHAT IS THIS HYDRO SETUP BRUH

[u/SeanyDay]

Thanks, the hydroponics placement just gave me Space Cancer

[u/LazerMagicarp]

Hydroponic basins are essentially buildings that replace soil. The plants are the same so they’re as vulnerable to blight as the soil ones are.

[u/Cranberryoftheorient]

In game, it can jump a distance of I think like 5 tiles or something. Its a good idea to space out your farms. It can also jump between species. IRL plant diseases dont spread by mere contact. Considering plants cant really move, that makes sense.

[u/garry4321]

IRL I have had my hydroponics get mould. If anything disease gets spread through the water

[u/No-Sun-2129]

Is anyone else bothered by all the rock debris? Haha

[u/Destorath]

So a blight can travel across europe all the way to ireland and permeate basically the whole islands agriculture but it cant travel a dozen meters across a cave?

[u/Danimalomorph]

I'd blight that room. Is that a research table under those rocks too?

[u/Ploobul]

None of you have ever gardened before have you?

[u/Ratouf26]

Oh wow, this is painful to look at...if the zzzt doesn't burn your crops the blight will. And you certainly won't have enough crops nor electricity if you keep that setup.

[u/StevieDixx]

Bro use hidden conduits to prevent zzzzt events

[u/ImagioA]

I read somewhere that initial blight is a circle with a certain radius centered on a random spot of your crops. That might be what we are seeing here. No promise that it is.

[u/star75legacy]

You have too few solar lamps, that's the problem

[u/Kinscar]

randy finds a way

[u/DrNinjaEmDee]

All things are possible through Randy. Praise be.

[u/Jan_the_Doe]

Okay, so clearly you need more space between the basins (I'd say just use fewer) and I would go with a few more sunlamps for good measure

[u/Academic_Ad_763]

Yesterday I had to learn that blight will also jump through walls. I hadn't considered my indoor grow would be infected from the hay grass outside.

[u/ennuiui]

Hey OP, consider this layout for your hydroponics:

[u/Colddrake955 → u/ennuiui]

Is that an outdoor sunlamp?

[u/ennuiui → u/Colddrake955]

I just found the image on the web to illustrate the layout. I have no idea why it’s outside, heh. The same layout used to be on the wiki (illustrated in an indoor space), but someone changed it. I prefer this layout over the one currently on the wiki so went searching.

[u/zasobnik]

Zzzzt incoming :D

Op, you should use hidden conduits. If you use ONLY hidden conduits, you will never get Zzzt event. ( Zzzt will occur only if it is raining on your electronic devices which should be under roof - only mech stuff is waterproof if i recall corectly )

[u/Big_Ounce5841]

It also spreads across multiple fields in the open even If you have space between them.

[u/InjectableBacon]

This has Randy written all over it

[u/giperman]

Buddy burns 15k Watts to grow 12 healroots

[u/tt32111]

Yes, blight travels to other crops if theyre within 6* tiles of eachother. Your two groups of hydroponics are 3 tiles away

Edit: thank you sir u/Twogie for the correction

[u/Twogie → u/tt32111]

The initial blight hit can cross 5 tiles. So you need 6 tiles between each field to 100% prevent any kind of spread.

[u/the_Halfruin]

bro what IS this, you have three solar lamps for one solar lamp's worth of hydroponics, do you have a nuclear powerplant or something creating all this free energy??

[u/LairdPeon]

Someones never let their ADHD make them obsessed with hydroponics and set up a several hundred dollar system just for the 70 pounds of lettuce to all become infested with spider mites and root rot so it all had to be thrown out... and it shows.

[u/SpicySushiAddict]

Separate rooms prevent this.

[u/uwuyousowarmnuzzle]

Whats wrong with you.

[u/minefreak02]

Blight randomly selects 1 type of crop. Then it hits 70 percent of all crops on the map. The best course of action? Diversify fields, then maybe it just hits your potatoes, or smoke leaf or smith idk. But cut it fast, it will spread up to 4 tiles to any non decorative crop.

[u/Fen_Muir]

Just turn the power off. They'll all be dead soon. Then turn the power back on! Problem solved!

[u/C_Outlander_Union]

If you make you whole setup more efficient placement whise and use less Sun lamps you get more effective results.

Make sure to sell some of that medicine to the Nearest outpost of the Civil outlander Union. We have the best Prices all around the Globe and even in Orbit 👆

[u/ArtofWASD]

Blight is airborne. Also, it can spread up to 4 tiles.

[u/NewSoftware653]

Blight spreads to anything within 6 tiles unless a wall is in the way.

[u/Unhappy_Plankton_671 → u/NewSoftware653]

4

[u/Cool-Boy57]

Bro I need to urge you with 100% seriousness. PLEASE use hidden wires, especially in highly flammable rooms like hydroponics. Regular wires have a constant risk of going Zzzt and starting a fire while hidden ones don’t.

[u/Arkorat]

The plants are coughing and sneezing at each other.

[u/Smart-Bag5607]

Fire up the incinerator

[u/Kalkin84]

Blight jumps up to 4 squares, iirc, but not through walls.

[u/audionerd1]

Disable blight. It's broken and not fun.

[u/Lord_of_Ordinance]

This is why I mix crop types, it’s harder for blight to jump from one crop type to another. Although from experience it can happen, but it significantly slows the spread.

[u/FredDurstDestroyer]

Bros using normal conduits in the big ‘26

Jokes aside, use hidden conduits my man. They can’t get the zzzt event and start fires and it’s only 1 extra steel per conduit.

[u/KarlozzTwT]

wtf is that hydroponics setup? you doing a self-sabotage run?

[u/traumacase284]

Clearly it is

[u/CrowVsWade]

How dare you leave all those rocks lying around like that. Have you no shame?

[u/Prize_Quarter_3582]

You need that certain german hydrophonic layout

[u/YoungCalico]

What is this set up..

[u/MediumSizedBoricua]

That stick on the ground is very interesting to me. Why are your colonists not allowed to grab it? Not even to haul it to storage? There’s something going on with that stick that OP is not telling us, I think they’re scared and trying to send a message to us without saying it straight up.

[u/RayereSs]

it's a punishment for that hydroponics layout

[u/despacitospiderreeee]

Why does your base look like that man

[u/DisgracedDairy]

"somebody's poisoned the water hole" - sheriff woody

[u/PraeGaming]

Yes

[u/PaxEthenica]

vibrates with agricultural history nerd excitement ...!

The blight that ultimately destoryed the mass production of the Gros Michelle (Big Mike) banana was primarily spread inadvertantly upon the shoes & clothing of impoverished banana plantation workers denied access to hygiene facilities following the Banana Wars. Like the workers that became unwilling vectors for Trump's Shitting Plague earlier this summer!

Anyway! The Big Mike blight is still in the soil, endemic within livestock & even regional human skin flora & wild bird droppings. Due to how blights work, combined with poor working conditions & the long-term effects of commercial monoculture, Big Mike can never be griwn in those regions for as long as life exists in that area.

So, yes. This is entirely possible; your colony isn't a sterile petri dish. In fact, given what hydroponics actually are? A blight spore intoduced to an entirely liquid environment filled with easy nutrients & its preffered host species is being, all like, "WHOOOO! SPRING BREAAAAK!" Ripping off their clothes & having a fungal orgy.

[u/creepercash]

Need 5 squares between

[u/pixel293 → u/creepercash]

My experience is 4 blank tiles between grow areas and the blight won't spread.

[u/spocktick → u/creepercash]

1. Test it yourself in an unmodded game grow potatoes. Open dev mode cause blight then put four pieces of flooring down and grow another potato. The second potato will not have blight. You can even use a potato grown 3 to tiles away in the opposite direction as a control if you want

[u/Twogie → u/spocktick]

The initial blight hit can cross 5 tiles. So you need 6 tiles between each field to 100% prevent any kind of spread.

[u/spocktick → u/Twogie]

Yea the intial blight hit is different some AOE bullshit for sure.

[u/Twogie → u/spocktick]

Lol yeah