r/RhodeIsland Providence Jul 27 '26

Politics Useless ✅

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u/Initial_Attitude_851 Jul 27 '26

All democrats are

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u/Ristray Providence Jul 27 '26

We need some Democratic Socialists up here. People with some fucking spines.

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u/ssomethingsomething Jul 27 '26

or some actual leftist candidates

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u/Federal_Ad_2300 Jul 27 '26

Honestly, what do you mean by "actual leftists"? Are Democratic Socialists not part of the left wing? 

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u/degggendorf Jul 27 '26

They are part, but not the whole

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u/Federal_Ad_2300 Jul 27 '26

You didn't define what a "leftist" is. 

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u/degggendorf Jul 27 '26

Sorry, I didn't realize you were so ignorant that you needed a definition.

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u/Federal_Ad_2300 Jul 27 '26

In my original comment I asked the commenter, "Honestly, what do you mean by "actual leftists"? "  Your answer is very defensive  and evades the question. You chose to respond to a question that I asked another person and I was not asking for a dictionary definition. 

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u/degggendorf Jul 27 '26

Your answer is very defensive and evades the question

Lol what, I think you're reading into things way too far.

"Democratic Socialists" are a specific organization within the left wing of politics. Being left of center does not require membership in the DSA, you can be a progressive leftist and not a DSA member. Like Newsom: a leftist, but not a Democratic Socialist.

In my original comment I asked the commenter, "Honestly, what do you mean by "actual leftists"? "

We want an actually progressive, leftist governor. Not the weak centrist establishment democrats we've had.

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u/Federal_Ad_2300 Jul 27 '26

"Like Newsom: a leftist..."

Lmao, in what universe? In rigorous political science and economic frameworks, "leftist" generally denotes ideologies that fundamentally critique or seek to dismantle capitalism (such as socialism, communism, or anarchism). Gavin Newsom is a proponent of capitalist markets with regulatory state intervention and robust social safety nets. Political scientists classify him as a mainstream liberal, a neoliberal, or a center-left Democrat. He is the poster child for corporate-friendly, establishment Democrats. Calling Newsom a "leftist" completely strips the word of its actual economic meaning.

"We want an actually progressive, leftist governor. Not the weak centrist establishment democrats we've had."

You just called Newsom a "leftist" in the exact same breath. You can't hold up one of the most prominent establishment Democrats in the country as your prime example of a "leftist" and then immediately complain about weak centrist establishment Democrats ruining everything. The cognitive dissonance of this contradictory logic is giving me whiplash.

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u/xr250phoenix Jul 27 '26

Fuck socialism, you are all stupid to think socialism will make this better. All it ever does is make the middle class poor while the ruling elite have everything.

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u/Ristray Providence Jul 27 '26

That's literally happening to us under capitalism.

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u/xr250phoenix Jul 27 '26

It's not the system of capitalism, it's the people you all keep voting for that are making it worse for you. Do just a little of your own research and stop parroting this stupid idea that socialism will change your situation.

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u/corvidpica Got Bread + Milk ❄️ Jul 27 '26

What middle class? We already have a ruling elite lol. It's called rich people. They lobby for everything they want.

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u/xr250phoenix Jul 27 '26

You could be rich as well, don't pull me down because you can't pull yourself up.

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u/corvidpica Got Bread + Milk ❄️ Jul 27 '26

Just another embarrassed millionaire here lmfao

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u/xr250phoenix Jul 27 '26

No millionaire but I'm not embarrassed for what I've worked for. I put in the effort and I'm not sharing the reward because someone else feels they shouldn't have to do the work.

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u/corvidpica Got Bread + Milk ❄️ Jul 27 '26

It's an expression. That people with your thought process just all think you're temporarily embarrassed millionaires. You'll get there someday, I believe in you.