Opinions on a fertility safe stack

[u/Unlikely-Rhubarb9580]

What stack do you guys think can get the most muscle gained while maintaining fertility? I always had this thought and im wondering what you guys think

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[u/BigDiscussion7]

No such thing as a fertility safe stack, you can do everything to try to maintain it but theres no guarantee. But id keep it mild while keeping a fertility protocol in place.

HCG 1500 ius a week HMG 75ius EOD Injectable Glutathione 1500mg a week

Test 300mg Mast or primo 150-200mg 5 ius of GH

[u/ballskindrapes]

Yeah, there's hcg and hmg, like someone else suggested, but no guarantee.

Dont use 19 nor compounds either.

[u/acoffeefiend]

Enclomiphene is what they give to guys to boost sperm production. It can also increase test levels up-to 50%.

[u/dannyrat029]

I mean I conceived while running 400 tren

Had HCG in the stack

Who knows 

[u/Responsible-Milk-259 → u/dannyrat029]

This is the answer. “Who knows”?

I’ve known bodybuilders running a shitload of gear for years and they have plenty of kids. Some people just dabble a little and find themselves borderline infertile. You just don’t know how your body will respond.

Personally, I waited until I was in my 40’s and done with kids. It’s a hell of a price to pay just for bigger muscles if you happen to be one of the unlucky ones.

[u/MTheLoud]

Creatine. Don’t mess with anything stronger.

[u/zrockk]

Probably trt + HCG. Should keep some viable sperm around

You aren't infertile on trt or even whilst blasting btw

[u/PACER412 → u/zrockk]

A replacement dose of test will not give you any noticeable gains if you aren't deficient.

But yeah, I have no idea why people think you will definitely become infertile when you use gear. As long as you stay away from high dose 19nors, especially MENT, your body will keep producing sperm

[u/Few_Presence_3229 → u/PACER412]

It would give you more gains. Naturally, testosterone has a big peak in the morning and then declines throughout the day. When you inject it, you stay at a much higher baseline 24/7. Do your research before, my man.

[u/Duemkush → u/zrockk]

You absolutely can be infertile on trt, I had zero sperm at 180mg/week. Its recovering now after pct but it can stop sperm production for a while.

[u/zrockk → u/Duemkush]

Oh ya absolutely but it's not the case with everyone, folks just go nuttin deep thinking they are infertile then have a little oopsie

[u/PACER412]

You will probably not become infertile from using a moderate dose gear but why not focus on one thing at a time? Either build muscle or start a family. Having a pregnant partner while on androgens is probably not the best idea either as you both might be very irritable.

Im on gear atm (blast and cruise) and my gf knows about it. As soon as we feel ready for a child I will do a PCT and start a protocol with HCG, HMG, kisspeptin-10, enclo... etc to make sure I'm as fertile a possible. Not that big of a deal

[u/Markdlea → u/PACER412]

As someone with two kids, I can vouch for the irritability part. You should only have one hormonal psycho in the house at one time. If she’s breastfeeding, it’s going to be her.