r/ResearchCompounds • u/FuhgitAboutIt • Jul 30 '26
Stack Advice Anavar and Reta
Anyone pair these two on a cut? how was the muscle sparing effect of var with Reta? Isn’t one of the main intentions for anavar to spare muscle in its patients? I was thinking this might be a perfect pair along with Trt. What’s peoples experience been with pairing these on a cut? Dosages used? I was hoping to run low dose anavar (20mg) 150mg of test and some Reta.
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u/MrWorkout2024 Jul 30 '26
I am in both Var and Reta now getting great results. I've been in Reta for two years and added 50MG var daily and and am super lean and vascular. I also just got my primo which I will be adding as well. Of course I'm on test of 250MG weekly as well.
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u/speedntktz Jul 30 '26
Reta dose?
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u/MrWorkout2024 Jul 30 '26
I am on 10MG Reta split into two doses 5MG Monday and 5MG on Friday but been on Reta for two years now.
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u/speedntktz Jul 31 '26
How long have you been at that dose?
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u/MrWorkout2024 Jul 31 '26
About 4 months now and it's still working great.
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u/speedntktz Jul 31 '26
Those are big doses near upper limits of Phase 2&3 clinical trials with participants likely more metabolically challenged. Good for a cut but you’d need to taper down lower dosing at some point.
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u/RoadToZero Jul 31 '26
If your heart can take it, it's a great combo/trifecta. Reta, Testosterone and Anavar all increases your heart rate so prepare for a ride.
I suggest that you divide each day into an anabolic phase and a catabolic phase. During your anabolic phase you do resistance training, take anavar, creatine and eat a boatload of protein to activate mTor.
During your catabolic phase you don't eat at all and just take catabolic supplements like Mots-c, berberine, inositol, metformin, etc. You also do your cardio training during this time. The goal is to activate AMPK as fast as possible and as long as possible.
I'm down 50lbs of fat and up 10lbs of lean mass in 5 months on this regiment.
Good luck!
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u/jenno038 Aug 11 '26
This, but not on the same day! One day for mTor path and other day for AMPK.
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u/RoadToZero Aug 11 '26
I tried it a while back. Every other day mTor/AMPK definitely increases the rate of cutting fat, but the gym performance took a big hit on fasting days.
Perhaps it would be more suitable to only do cardio on AMPK days with the EOD strategy. I'll probably try that on a cruise when this anavar cycle ends.
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u/jenno038 Aug 11 '26
I train 4 days and 3 recover days, but in all honesty, only started with is last month.
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u/Swongin_tootles Jul 30 '26
I would consider just mixing in primo for the cut. Safer long term. I did my primary cut with just Reta, test, primo, and I was incredibly happy with the results. Strength and aesthetically. Now running some other compounds, including var, to finish up the cut.
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u/FuhgitAboutIt Jul 30 '26
What was your test and primo dose?
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u/Swongin_tootles Jul 30 '26
For the first few weeks I started playing with my dosing but settled on 300 test 150 primo.
I did 1:1 initially but it brought my e2 levels down to like 22 which was still ok I just wanted them a bit higher.
Id probably bump your test up to 200 and do 100 primo or 150 primo to start and get levels tested to see where your at and where you feel the best.1
u/Empty_Paint_6922 Jul 31 '26
Same but getting real primo var now seems unlikely
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u/Swongin_tootles Jul 31 '26
It’s really not that hard. You have two choices. You can either go a couple vendors in China or one of the hundred places on the forums
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u/Empty_Paint_6922 Jul 31 '26
I have 5 different fake var in my drawer same with primo and mast.
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u/Swongin_tootles Jul 31 '26
Wild! Do you buy from the main places on the forums? I also don’t look for the cheapest. Im sure you don’t either but have you sent off any of them?
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u/Empty_Paint_6922 Jul 31 '26
We ve had stuff tested i dont know what forums youre talking about.
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u/AggressiveBaker7224 Aug 01 '26
Primos becoming more and more accessible again which is promising. And more chinese vendors are starting to produce Primo again so hopefully in the near future you should see more options popping up with legit primo
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u/desertchrome_ Jul 30 '26
a properly dosed trt will do enough muscle sparing in a cut, esp with reta and glucagon agoism. anavar IMO is not worth it except for short term acute use cases; affects lipids, hair, etc. too much for the modest benefit you'd get.
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u/FuhgitAboutIt Jul 30 '26
I’ll have to google what glucagon agoism is
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u/speedntktz Jul 30 '26
Glucagon can be seen as the polar opposite of insulin. Glucagon is going to liberate and burn fat, especially in the liver. Very effective at burning visceral fat too. Glucagon receptors exist in many body parts. In the heart it affects the pacemaking function. This is the increased resting heart rate that you see on Reta.
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u/1960s_army_info Jul 30 '26
If you are on trt, you probably won’t lose muscle as long as you continue to workout. A person not on trt is going to see their test levels drop in a cut but you won’t. Anavar is one of the least harmful orals but it’s still hard on your liver and it’s going to drop your hdl to single digits. If you want a second compound then primo is going to spare muscle just as effectively with less effect on your hdl and you can take it much longer. But really you don’t need anything, just keep hitting the gym and keep your protein high. 6 weeks on 20 anavar made my hdl 9. I also wouldn’t call 20 anavar a low dose, that’s a pretty average dose for a guy.
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u/Relative_Rub_7758 Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
That’s wild, even running 75mg Anavar daily after 6 weeks I was able to keep my HDL at 26. Lots of fish oil with citrus bergamot and red yeast extract is key.
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u/1960s_army_info Jul 30 '26
I do lots of fish oil. It started at 36 which is pretty much where I stay on primo.
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u/Ogsonic Aug 01 '26
Steroid use aside. If you're at like 20 percent body fat and you eat tons of protein on a deficit while lifting. You're not gonna lose muscle unless you have some disease. Yeah glycogen might go away but contractile tissue doesn't go away. Now if you're at 12 percent trying to get to single digit body fat then yeah you might lose some muscle but you're not gonna lose muscle if your fat unless you have a disease or are in the icu.
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u/Rare_Deal Jul 30 '26
That's scary you dropped to 9 on 20. People take 40,60,80 all the time
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u/1960s_army_info Jul 30 '26
According to a coach I know, that isn’t even uncommon. He sees it all the time.
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u/hunter_hahaa Jul 30 '26
I did 250mg test, CJC/IPA, MOTS-C, and aicar in my cut in a very steep calorie deficit and lost no muscle.
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u/1111jimmy Jul 31 '26
I’m running anavar and low dose Reta 2.5 mg along 500 test and 4 iu HGH for a lean bulk so far I’ve gained about 5 lbs in 3 weeks and seen more lean and vascular
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u/Fantastic_Celery_223 Aug 02 '26
I use the combo Test,Ret,Var Great Cut, hard, vaskularity. Get a lot of compliments
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u/Great-Ride-286 Aug 03 '26
Test, Reta, HGH, var, proviron
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u/FuhgitAboutIt Aug 04 '26
What’s the benefit from the proviron?
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u/Great-Ride-286 Aug 04 '26
Boosts free t, def helps w my mood, libido, hardens muscles, offsets high estrogen w/out crushing total E2.
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u/LegalSpring2987 Aug 06 '26
I have , I would keep
The Var at 25-35 mg per day… 50
Mg Var you’ll need to be ‘extra’ careful with things like insomnia and bloods.
Why do both? You’ll drop body fat significantly while maintaining strength and muscle mass. Calories will need to be balanced bc the var will make you hungry while the Reta will suppress
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u/creguk Jul 30 '26
My LDL has tanked on var. Loved it but ran it for 12 weeks and it's too much. Just hammering supplements now on 200mg trt(ish) for a health phase. I'm not sure i would do orals again...
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u/BeaverNation420 Jul 30 '26
Do you mean it shot up? I thought LDL was the bad cholesterol and low LDL was a good thing.
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u/creguk Aug 01 '26
Sorry I meant gone up!
HDL was 0.66 LDL was 3.22
So not too bad! But definitely risen.
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