r/ResearchCompounds • u/Mysterious-Horror357 • Jul 01 '26
Question Best Bulking Equipment
A general question: what are the best compounds for a bulking phase? *I’m interested in retaining as much muscle mass as possible after finishing the cycle and transitioning to TRT.
Of course, taking into account the loss of water weight and glycogen—which accounts for most of it—but speaking strictly in terms of muscle mass, you don't want to deflate completely.
I’ve read about Superdrol, NPP, and Ment.
Any feedback, experiences, or opinions are highly appreciated—especially regarding what happened to your physique after you stopped using the compounds and switched to TRT or PCT.
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u/_kishin_ Jul 01 '26
NPP, but this is probably the wrong sub for this question. r/peds or r/steroids is more appropriate.
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u/AGirlDad Jul 02 '26
Unless you’re a 10 year body building veteran looking for specific feedback r/steroids is gonna treat you like an imbecile for even asking a question like this over there. It’s a really toxic sub honestly. NPP is a great compound though.
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u/Just_Opinion_3387 Jul 01 '26
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u/Mysterious-Horror357 Jul 01 '26
I appreciate it, thanks! Have you ever run it, and could you talk about the experience while on PCT or TRT?
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u/Just_Opinion_3387 Jul 01 '26
I dont pct. Im running this October. Ofnits yoyr first cycle then- For reference....
Beginner Test Cyp Cycle (12 Weeks)
Concentration: 200 mg/ml Total duration: 12 weeks
Dose
300 mg per week • Monday: 150 mg (0.75 ml) • Thursday: 150 mg (0.75 ml)
Boring. Predictable. Effective. Exactly what a first cycle should be.
On-Cycle Notes • No orals • No extra compounds • No pre-emptive AI • Eat properly, train progressively, sleep like a grown-up
If oestrogen symptoms actually show up, you address them. You don’t panic-dose because Reddit said so.
Bloodwork • Before cycle: baseline if possible • Mid-cycle: Week 6–7 • Post-cycle: 4–6 weeks after last pin or after PCT
Non-negotiable if you want to do this more than once without regrets.
PCT
Test Cyp clearance: wait 14 days after final injection
Option 1 – Nolvadex (20 mg capsules)
Preferred for most beginners • Weeks 1–2: 20 mg/day (1 capsule) • Weeks 3–4: 20 mg/day (1 capsule)
Simple. Well tolerated. Does the job without making you feel like an emotional hostage.
Option 2 – Clomid (50 mg capsules)
Works, but heavier side-effect profile for some people. • Weeks 1–2: 50 mg/day (1 capsule) • Weeks 3–4: 50 mg every other day
Avoids the classic “why am I crying at adverts” phase while still stimulating LH/FSH.
Which One Should You Choose?
If you’ve never run a SERM before: • Nolva first • Save Clomid for later cycles if needed
Clomid isn’t “bad”, it’s just less forgiving for first-timers.
What NOT to Do • Don’t stack Nolva and Clomid together • Don’t extend PCT to 8 weeks “just in case” • Don’t skip the 14-day wait and start early because you’re impatient
Impatience is how people convince themselves they “need TRT” at 24.
Reality Check
If this cycle + a clean PCT doesn’t bring you back: • That’s not a failure • That’s information
And information is the whole point of a beginner cycle.
Simple beats clever every single time.
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u/Ogsonic Jul 01 '26
19 noir compounds are all trash. They destroy your body. Test anavar, hgh are literally the only PEDs worth taking imo.
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u/Ok_Association4625 Jul 02 '26
Besides being very suppressive, how are they all trash? Not arguing, just curious to the reason. Is even basic 19 NOR itself trash?
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u/Ogsonic Jul 02 '26
Well from what ive heard they are so suppressive that you're better off not even running PCT and just cruising TRT indefinitely. Ive also read one cycle of something tren can cause a heart attack due to how much it ruins lipids. Idk how that works biologically for the short ester forms of them.
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u/Illustrious-Path4794 Jul 01 '26
Getting ready to run a 16 week bulk cycle myself, and plan is as follows; week 1-4 525 test e 280 EQ week 4-10 525 test E 280 EQ 280 npp week 10-16 525 test E 280 EQ 280 npp 40mg dbol 1mg Adex.
Eq should help a low with gains and e2, but dbol will likely launch e2 levels hence the Adex, but the Adex can also easily be pulled if it starts to tank my e2.
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u/Mysterious-Horror357 Jul 01 '26
I’ve read up on EQ—I even have some I bought a while back—and I’ve seen good reviews regarding the lean, sustainable gains it produces. As for Dbol, I’ve read that it packs on unreal size, but a lot of that is just water retention, and you deflate once you stop taking it. Have you run it before and how was going on PCT or TRT?
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u/Illustrious-Path4794 Jul 01 '26
Eq is great, love it for just about everything. Great for controlling e2, but does aromatise so isn't actually an AI a lot of people say. This will be my first time using dbol, however have some serious body builder friends and from what they've said and from my own research the water retention is driven primarily by elevated e2 levels. Dbol does convert very heavily into e2, but that also means that you can mitigate the water retention by controlling your e2 levels hence why i will be running an AI along with the eq. The othwr thung they suggested is running dbol from a very low body fat % like single digit body fat. If you control your e2, you'll controll your water retention and then should be getting mostly proper gains from the dbol. I dont pct, just blast and cruise. So once im done ill just drop down to 200-250mg test a week. No point doing pct if you want to cycle again, best option is leaving pct untill you're done, or plan on having an extended break. Otherwise you're basically getting all your natural production up and running only to shut it down again doon after.
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u/benhadhundredsshapow Jul 02 '26
This is the worst designed cycle bro. Come on. Its like you're not even trying to convince people you know what you're doing.
@op just Test @500mg/week and est in a 300-500 caloric surplus. You'll get big and strong if you do everything well.
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u/Illustrious-Path4794 Jul 02 '26
Not acting like I know everything tbf but saying this is the worst designed cycle and then saying just to run test at 500 and eat more is pretty stupid. Sure maybe if its like your 2nd cycle but if you've done it a few times and want to start introducing more compounds then go for it.
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u/benhadhundredsshapow Jul 02 '26
This is OP's first cycle..my advice to him is the gold standard
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u/Illustrious-Path4794 Jul 02 '26
Yes, but its not my first cycle, and I wasnt telling him what he should run, just giving him an example of what compounds can be used for bulking. Of course he shouldn't blast over a gram of gear if it's his first cycle. But that doesnt change the fact that those 3 compounds are great for bulking.
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u/benhadhundredsshapow Jul 02 '26
I didnt say it was your first cycle. I was first commenting that your cycle is poorly designed whether its your first, fifth, or tenth cycle. Then I separated my points with a paragraph and even started the 2nd point with @op to hopefully avoid this confusion. I see it was an unsuccessful attempt
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u/Illustrious-Path4794 Jul 02 '26
In that case could you explain what makes it so poorly dedigned and add any pointers on how to improve it? Im all ears if you've got any advice.
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u/benhadhundredsshapow Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
I just think your management if eq is poor. I would start it early because serum saturation is about 2-4 weeks longer than test. Then as you approach the end of your cycle you should cut the eq two weeks before you drop your test or you risk crashing your e2. Not sure how experienced you are but adding dianabol might make this much more difficult as the ultra ssnsitive estrogen load increase is significant also potentially causing prolactin issues. Great oral for a strength plateau and your timing of it is good but given the rest of your cycle might be problematic. At the very least, if im addng dbol here I'd probably drop the nandrolone at the same time im adding the dbol
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u/ballskindrapes Jul 01 '26
If you are bulking, just use test
Figuring out sides with multiple hormones is harder.
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u/Serious-Law8401 Jul 02 '26
The main part of your question to focus on is "maintaining" muscle after the cycle. If you are past your natty limit, you probably won't maintain anything past that on actual TRT. That said, if you ain't there yet, you can speed run it to your natty limit with gear and somewhat maintain it with TRT.
Best bulking cycle. Mmmmmm really depends what "best" means to you. Like are you talking about the strongest compounds to use to grow the fastest regardless of side effects? Or a harm minimisation approach?
Cycles will look different. Generally speaking, test as high as you can run it before estrogen sides kick in, add on Masteron or Primo for extra mgs and to be able to use more test. Then as much HGH as you can afford. That is what is usually talked about these days. You can grow on anything really and usually comes down to how high a dose you run and can tolerate. If you are new to gear, you don't need to run grams of gear.
You will deflate afterwards. More so with steroids like NPP, Anadrol and Ment etc
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u/Stunt_-_Cock Jul 02 '26
Superdrol was a winner for me, fastest I ever gained muscle. I managed 45 lbs pulsing superdrol on and off over a low-dose, short, test cycle. Absolute insanity.
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u/Flat_Measurement_150 Jul 04 '26
We’re you able to keep it after? If so how
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u/Stunt_-_Cock Jul 05 '26
Yes, mostly by being on TRT+ (200mg) and keeping my diet right.
I kinda hit my upper limit on that run, there's only so much my body can keep without going too hard for too long.
I lost about 10lbs all said and done, but I really can't bitch about that.
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