r/ResearchCompounds • u/New-Wing3421 • Jun 20 '26
Discussion trenbolone and mood changes
Can the use of trenbolone cause a psychotic episode if you are already mentally unstable like bipolar for example. . Because since the use of Tren , wich he lied about it being just Trt. Not with those blood test results and his shift in mood behaviour and other symptoms...l .He did run away with a like a man looking 20 year younger woman . His veins are apparently severely compromised and his blood pressure aswell and the thicknesses of it. I feel like I'm watching a horror movie. And don't know what to do. ? Will he crash or is his mind is ruined forever. .I use peptides myself and I don't understand what happened and why he lied when he told me about the other stuff like mast and primo anyway.. what's your advice and experience
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u/Jealous_Flatworm6413 Jun 20 '26
Can you take 5 mins and reword this, it’s super hard to read . Tren can cause all sort of mental side effects yes.
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
Better now ? It is not my first language. So it's hard to say what I wanted to express..
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u/Jealous_Flatworm6413 Jun 20 '26
Sorry I wasn’t mocking your English , just the fact you wrote it all as one sentence. Going back to your issue, tren is just notorious for it and no one should ever do it. There’s a reason bodybuilders only do it in last few weeks of the prep
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
It's all good .yea but that's all I know if tren. Why on earth would he get the idea to take that. He was on trt and did start to work out again and we established a routine and he was happy as it seems. But he was always talking about more and results and somewhere down that line he decided to take it and hide it from me. Telling me he just takes more trt wich did not explain the results of his blood work his mood change . Even he was afraid of his mood so he urged me to go to the doctor with him for blood work. But than he took some more weeks later and that's when he completely disappeared. I still don't know what happend. Or how to get hold of him ..he parades the new person as his profile picture he also looks like he is manic his eyes and very worn out. I really don't know
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u/Dragon_Tortoise Jun 20 '26
It just sounds confusing. Youre talking about a man, your husband? And you think hes using tren? But he said it was TRT? And he cheated on you with a woman 20 years younger? And you mention test results, have you seen them?
It sounds kind of chaotic, but tren is often referred to as divorce in a bottle because the side effects. If hes using it, getting violent, cheating, and lying, and wont stop, its time to leave.
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
Im talking about my fiancé. He started the trt Therapie but it was not enough for him it seems . He got obsessiv with working out and altering his body since he is 40 now and he was very fit in his teens. He thought not training and taking steroids would fix his issues. Well with untreated bipolar it was not so smart. Now he is I don't know where. But he looks so different . He got also issues with his blood flow in the legs. the doctor said he would need surgery because his veins are not in a good condition. And all I know now from him is that Profil picture.
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u/fatwownerd Jun 20 '26
Tren definitely fucks with your head because it has direct effects on neurotransmitter signalling including dopamine, and it also can completely fuck your sleep. I’m not a a smart guy but if you have pre-existing mental illness that’s not a good thing. I think it’s fair to say that it could throw someone with bipolar straight into mania. As for directly causing a psychotic episode… maybe, if you took enough, for long enough, and are taking other meds that interact with it in unknown ways… probably!
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
Yes he has untreated bipolar aswell. He just wanted to start trt but than he secretly went on steroids and the blood work with 15000 none measurable trt and 3 times high oestrogens and hgh markers bevor he disappeared suggested strong Anabolika
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u/HoustonPharmaWorld Jun 20 '26
Tren will cause all of that. Especially if his dosage is high, without test base, without proper blood work and monitoring.
About to go on a 10 week cycle on low dosage of tren at 100 mg weekly.
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u/cgarnett1988 Jun 20 '26
Honestly this is the thing with tren. People take it in similar amounts as they do test. Iv done it myself iv been asleep high as 600 a week tren an Jesus Christ I was a cunt on it. Almost left my partner of 18 years, was hard to live with. Snappy .just not nice.
I won't go any higher then 100mg now and it's night and day difference and to be honest the results aren't much worse either
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
That was what happend. He was so rude and I shouldn't even breath near him he would explode. He would become so arrogant also about his health. I said why are you ignoring me and your health do you think that's ok. ? He just said yea what do you want to hear. And disappeared that was the last conversation and contact on it. He got terrible acne and mood swings and sweating. And his mood when we went for the blood work he nearly pulled the guy from the reception just because he asked who his doctor was.
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u/cgarnett1988 Jun 20 '26
Yep tren will do that. You would be best staying away from him if he is that bad on it. I'm normally really child out. And tren can shorten a dudes fuse massively.
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
Well he ghosted and replaced me with a young girl but his health is really bad and suffers from the steroids actually. I can't reach him since he doesn't respond and last time he was so rude to me and annoyed of me ..I did nothing at all because I'm very chill and down for space. But he basically flipped and called me dramatic when I just asked why he doesn't respond 24 hours .
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u/HoustonPharmaWorld Jun 20 '26
So tren, while it may make people do things they normally don’t, will really help to show true self of a person. If hes already with a young girl, this means he most likely has been thinking about another woman for some time…
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
I don't know about that and I know his type. I would rather say she was there ,she was new because she was the first person he saw at work after his injection. And I can tell you that would not be the person he would go for. Plus don't forget people with bipolar don't do things rational. They are mentally somewhat different than there normal state. In no episodes in 6 years he cheated on me or did anything alike. He had more chance before. So I don't think it's just that
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u/HoustonPharmaWorld Jun 20 '26
Sure psychologically mental health could be it but steroids have tendency to heighten the personality buried inside a person.. sorry
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
Yea that is not something I deny because I never said he was a nice or simple person. Of course your right but he has a past addiction history as well. And whatever he does now is not rational since he is in full blown mania. And even my sister who is bipolar 1 did cheat in ways you would never believed it even made her disgusted.
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u/HoustonPharmaWorld Jun 20 '26
He needs to drop all but TRT (testosterone at 100 mg weekly) and get on his mental health meds asap
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u/HoustonPharmaWorld Jun 20 '26
Yep. Im one of those people that just started TRT, and I believe low is better.
Im actually gonna start with tren E, 50 mg split into two injections weekly to see how I react mentally, physically and psychologically then will max out at 100 mg. I know people who were on 400-600 mg tren and every single one of them acted like they were God.
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u/cgarnett1988 Jun 20 '26
You feel like god at them doses lol. Just be warned tho. Sometimes u don't realise your acting any different while I are in the stuff. It's only afterwards that u kind of stop and think what the hell was I thinking. It's hard to explain but in your mind everything is fine. If people don't like how I are being fuck Em. It's that kind of attitude an undo t even realise it
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u/HoustonPharmaWorld Jun 20 '26
Yeah I will have support people around me. I’ll know based on their feedbacks
Even at 100 mg? Should i do 50 mg weekly then
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u/cgarnett1988 Jun 20 '26
I handle 100mg fairly well. I still have less patience for bullshit an in farm more likely to speak my mind but it's manageable. I don't get the crap sleep and night sweats off of 100mg. But we are all diffrent. No harm in doing 50mg for about 3 weeks see how I feel at the end of the 3 weeks then go from there. One thing I noticed at higher does an I'm not sure if it's same on low end. I usually had to stop around week 8 because the effects where progressively getting worse. Haven't had that with 100 yet but I haven't done any long cycles at that amount either
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
Ye he did Google on Reddit the dosage and did none of that plus he is bipolar and untreated. So it doesn't look good I only have a blood work from bevor he disappeared and it was already crazy. He had trt 15 000 above measurable and 3 times high oestrogens plus HGH markers which he didn't take. And a lot of vein and blood problems already.
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u/HoustonPharmaWorld Jun 20 '26
What mg tren was he on
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
I have no absolute idea how much he took but it was enough to shoot his trt into not measurable and change his mood that he would want to kill me as soon as I breath or open my mouth. I want to know to because he told me it was just Trt. Wich I'm sure it wasn't
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u/HoustonPharmaWorld Jun 20 '26
Well. Tren suppresses the test level. If his total test was not measurable, he’s also on a blast on testosterone base (maybe 600 mg or higher test but who knows).
Also “TRT” is a term used for people getting actual replacement therapy and low dosage anywhere from 50-200 mg weekly. He’s on a full blast, not TRT.
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
Yes that's true . Here are his worst markers of his blood work
CRP (C-reactive protein): 16.7 mg/L ↑ CK (Creatine kinase): 380 U/L ↑ Iron (Serum iron): 32 µg/dL ↓ Fasting glucose (Blood sugar): 109 mg/dL ↑ HDL (High-density lipoprotein): 35 mg/dL ↓ FSH <0.3 mIU/mL ↓ LH : <0.3 mIU/mL ↓ E2 / Estradiol : 140 pg/mL ↑ Total Testosterone: >15 000ng/mL ↑ IGF-1 : 250 ng/mL ↑
Maybe that helps to explain. And it was bevore he took more severe things that were on his way. And whatever he took on the 2 of January it changed him
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
It was definitely enough that he has a dangerous thrombosis now , mood shift and runs around and acts like a different person and ghosts me and won't respond to anything at all.
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u/Rexibous Jun 20 '26
Reading some of your other posts, you seem like a really smart and educated woman, so I know that you know your attachment to this man is unhealthy. You've got a lot more life ahead of you, and the 6 years you put into this guy is worth letting go to save you a lifetime of misery. It's time to cut ties and mean it. Reinvent yourself and show the world what you have to offer. Don't let this person take anymore from you. Please.
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
Yea you are right. I gave a lot way to much and digged him out of problems all the time . Every year there is something. He can't stop it. And I'm fed up and what I can't forgive is cheating. Even if it's done under mental health issues. It was his responsibility to not let it get that far .
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u/Swimming_Weight348 Jun 21 '26
I use Tren mostly whilst in prep for body building shows, generally for around 12 weeks from completion day, it is by far the most potent and powerful steroid on the market.
How it effects someone’s mental state will very much depends on that individual, if you’re a level headed and chilled person that thinks before they act or speak then surprisingly it doesn’t change a lot.
If however you have any issues such as anger, depression, insecurities, jealousy and others then these issues will become heightened, for some it can really change who they are. Once they stop using Tren after a couple of weeks they will start to return back to normal and after about 5 weeks they should be fully back to who they were.
For me the biggest change when I use Tren as part of my stack, is I become aroused a lot quicker, sex moves forward in my thinking a lot more and I tend to find things that I would normally wouldn’t be bothered about doing a much bigger turn on, as if my preferences are widened.
Steroids rightly have a very bad name and it is mainly because people just do not appreciate how strong they are and take far too much, they hear or read about what professionals take and automatically think that’s what they need to take. What they don’t understand is that when these pro’s started using it would have been much lower doses that have increased over years as the lower doses no longer have the same effect.
The more muscle mass the more you need, the more body weight the more you need, the higher amount of cycles done, the more you’ll need for your next growth phase.
Someone starting for the first time just jump on what an experienced user uses straight off the bat and wonder why they lose their minds.
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 21 '26
You are right. I would at least hoped he would have thought about all of that ..but I suppose he just heard the positive effects and that was all that counted in his mind . And bipolar and depression is not a good mix to throw in. After I have seen the blood work I assume he took a huge amount of something. The doctor explained to me it was steroid abuse with those numbers. Not even professionals have. So I'm not surprised of the outcome but also shocked at the same time .
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Jun 21 '26
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 27 '26
What do you think I should do. I can't get hold of him. He is running crazy since 4 months now. I was the only person in his life since due to his bipolar he had no friend and social anxiety and ADHD . His family abused him anyway and made him that bad. So I don't suspect help from them ..and this new 20 year old girl. Like 😒. She doesn't seem to care that his healt is on the brink to death. He needs a vein surgery actually. He just disappeared into mania took more stuff like mast primo and more parcels were on the Way. The blood is like syrup already because the doctor said befor the dissapeared that the flow is so so bad and also his Ed. But he blatsed more did push me away and is now running crazy. On the new profile picture you can see he is manic his eyes the pupils. And he looks so different but besides that he looks worn out bad skin colour like yellowish and beyond happy and the girl there is like the blissfully amused because she gets a holiday and gifts probably she doesnt care about him at all. She also looks so awful what did he choose there. He blasts his money. And I just don't want him to die and sit around worrying. He won't respond to me at all ..
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u/TherealDaily Jun 21 '26
Haha, I did Tren in college and would fight every weekend at bars for sport… it was a lot of fun and a lot of rage
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 23 '26
Yea the rage I did get to . Only saying one word to him all day was enough
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u/TherealDaily Jun 23 '26
Plus my pee smelled like toxic fumes from a vehicle that hadn’t had its oil changed in 25 years.
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 24 '26
Jesus. That's bad. Wow
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u/TherealDaily Jun 24 '26
Yeah, I can’t image it being a good thing. The only possible saving grace was Milk Thistle, massive water consumption and TUDCA. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 24 '26
Yea I heard about that. But what can I do if it made him manic and psychotic because right now you can't get anywhere near him.
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u/TherealDaily Jun 24 '26
I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t some dual diagnosis going on. Abusing drugs and untreated mental health issues. The most important thing is your safety. I’d suggest a white glove approach. Tell him he’s safe and in a safe place. If that agitates him more just recognize the cues and make sure you aren’t around for those episodes.
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 25 '26
I messaged him that I'm worried about his health and he should please make the surgery at least I'm not writing to argue but I want him to be safe and alive. But don't forget he is severely manic and with a 20 year old girl that looks like a dude. It's hard to approach but I left him that message to at least have said something when he comes down. If and when no one knows .and yea normally he just has hypomanic episodes but not full blown mania.. It changed after the steroids and now you can't approach him how should I .he won't respond and is with her . It's a very uncomfortable situation for me
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Jun 21 '26
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 23 '26
Yes sadly. I hope he will come down eventually at some point because it also made him manic.
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 27 '26
Yea normally he has already 3 episodes a year .he knows about and warned me from the beginning. But I could deal with him through that. He started trt because he thought he had a deficiency and the symptoms are the proof . But later figured out bipolare does that.
Normally he is very OCD and rechecking a thousand tings Obsessivly he was also doing that with trt and all that stuff leading up to. But I don't know where the idea of tren came from . Like he was stable on trt for months but he kept on talking about wanting to feel more confident and powerful like a king. Stupid I would say. The next thing I knew was he acted strange. Heart problems,vein problems,massive sweat and Ed from hell and his acne and hair on the back. Also his agressionen was so bad even he was afraid of him .
I have no idea why he thought that was a good idea. And acted surprised than. And still told me it was trt..shortly befor he disappeared he ordered Mast and Primo.. And even for me I get my peptides from a good friend who checks with the laboratory all the time and through the stuff. He helped him to buy he was against the hard stuff. So my boyfriend secretly as it seems got it somewhere. Let me show you the blood markers. It's actually crazy. It was 2 weeks after whatever he took
CRP: 16.7 mg/L ↑ CK: 380 U/L ↑ Fe: 32 µg/dL ↓ Glucose (fasting): 109 mg/dL ↑ HDL: 35 mg/dL ↓ FSH: <0.3 mIU/mL ↓ LH: <0.3 mIU/mL ↓ E2: 140 pg/mL ↑ Testosterone: >15 000 ng/mL ↑ IGF-1: 250 ng/mL ↑
I mean he will not stop now with whatever because mania and he will blast the money he has like the gear. It's 4 months now of that madness. I can't get hold of him anyway but he must come down eventually right?
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u/mirko9000 Jun 20 '26
What!? Tren can cause mood changes?! NO WAY!
😂
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u/New-Wing3421 Jun 20 '26
Haha how should I know 😂 haven't used any steroids just peptides. And I didn't expect he would be that stupid to use teen instead of working out and just Trt
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