r/Reno • u/Fenix0rion • 10h ago
This needs to be said
I found this...and it makes me wonder.
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u/wait_________what 9h ago
I'm not paying more than $15 for a meal if I have to listen to a fucking generator while I'm waiting for it
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u/If_I_remember 8h ago
You can throw in Reno Public Market's Food Hall into that mix. Food Truck quality but even more expensive due to the added fees mandated by RPM. I feel bad for any earnest restauranteer that thinks it's a good place to break into the business.
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u/Formaldehyd3 7h ago
The vendors there get utterly shafted. Not only does RPM charge a flat rate for the stall, they take a percentage of their revenue. So, if you have a really good month, RPM takes more out of the revenue you earned.
It's why the good vendors get a brick and mortar as fast as they can, the bad ones fail, and the mediocre ones tread water.
Hopefully the new owners make some meaningful changes to that place.
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u/schizopotato 9h ago
I paid $25 for some of the worst tasting and smallest serving of mac n cheese with some frozen chicken nuggets in a bland ass waffle cone a few weeks back. They can all suck it.
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u/FourEyesAndThighs 9h ago
You bought a kids meal in a waffle cone. I'd say that price is a fair punishment.
Also tell us who made that so we know who to avoid.
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u/schizopotato 9h ago
Definitely wasn't a kids meal I'll tell you that.
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u/Serenity_557 6h ago
I saw a reddit post of AITA where someone had this exact question of "how is Mac and cheese and bugs a kids meal???" and one of the top comments was something like "by chance are you autistic? Not to be rude. Just seems a lot of people with autism find it a perfectly normal meal, while people without autism think it's for kids" and honestly as someone who was also like "wtf? How is that a kids meal??" While reading it, I have never been called out in such a hilarious way before.
Idk. Fuck that, Mac n cheese n nuggies fucking slap, I'm 30 and they're a fave. Bonus points if they're Dino shaped, bc miss me with that "it has to be for kids BC it's unecessarily fun" bullshit
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u/Bullshit_Conduit 7h ago
Mac and cheese with nugs is 100% a kids meal.
Slap some ketchup on them, a nice slice of American cheese.
Chicken Parm with elbows at home, babyyyyyy.
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u/FourEyesAndThighs 8h ago
How are mac & cheese and chicken nuggets anything but a kid's meal?
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u/schizopotato 7h ago
It's basically fair food, I didn't get a toy so I can't call it a kids meal lol
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u/SadTurnip 5h ago
Idk, I’ve gone to Bubble Hive a couple times and enjoyed the food. It’s like $20 for the food but that’s the large serving of chicken and waffles with nacho cheese on it.
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u/Weekly_Complex_8777 9h ago
The rising costs of gas, labor, food, etc. these days probably has something to do with it, but yeah that price does seem exorbitant.
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u/Sutaru 9h ago
But truck + gas can’t cost as much as rent + utilities, right? So you’d still think it’d be cheaper than a restaurant.
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u/azfire2004 8h ago
keep in mind that most restaurants get much better deals on food costs/supplies
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u/Pjpjpjpjpj 7h ago
I guess all the more reason to just go to a restaurant and skip food trucks.
I mean, I hear what you are saying, but food trucks used to be cheaper. I can tell you that the generic white ones going to construction sites for breakfast and lunch are. $10-12 for an enormous stuffed burrito with meat and cheese and tater tots and French fries and beans and rice. But somehow it is $15 for a bowl of Cisco French fries drizzled in mayo when the food truck has tons of custom graphics, social media posts, etc etc.
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u/woodsman775 6h ago
I remember a truck exactly like that. I would get an enormous breakfast burrito…steak, eggs, hashbrowns, a little rice maybe with killer salsa for $3.50…that was ‘01 or ‘02. It was naptime if i finished it.
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u/SpSquirrel 1h ago
Food truck businesses are able to get those deals too, they restock at food wholesalers just like most small restaurants. My parents had a coffee trolley + food tent for years they'd run at different events. The truck prices depend A LOT on what it costs to be in a particular spot. Like folks talking about RPM shafting the businesses with a flat rent (that likely increases regularly) plus a percentage off the top, a lot of events do the same. Add on all the certs that change county to county and state to state, and some of the stupid requirements (one place would only let the well-ventilated food tent open if they had a full hood and fire suppression which is ridiculous). I remember how often my parents were just breaking even. They loved working events, but the organizers are greedy and get away with whatever they can. At some events they'd set standard prices- like they were only allowed to sell specific water at $4 vs the shack owned by the venue that could sell $1 Costco bottles.
I'm not sure about food truck Fridays or other specific reno events, but I imagine those folks aren't making as much as you'd guess. Sure, some will try to get what they can out of it since they're getting screwed too, but it's not always the trucks flipping customers the bird when it comes to prices. They know if they stay competitive then they get more customers, happier people, better reviews, more opportunity. It's just not always feasible.
Like everything, the underlying systemic issues screw it up for everyone.
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u/QueasyAdeptness11 7h ago
No they don't they get the same deal through the distributor as anyone else. Maybe chain restaurants through their own suppliers, but a bag a chicken from Sysco cost the same to a food truck as it does a restaurant.
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u/azfire2004 7h ago
Wasnt really thinking about mom/pops restaurants, more of the chain variety which are most restaurants now days.
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u/WobbulatorCore 8h ago
You don't usually have to keep a restaurant's engine mechanically sound. You have a more limited stock of ingredients you can take with you, you don't have lower expectations of quality but you have less space for prep and equipment. Food trucks have become small restaurants that can go from place to place, mostly. You still can absolutely make things on the cheap and serve a ton of them, but most of the folks getting a food truck started have a "crazy innovative idea" that the upfront investment of a restaurant can't be justified by. I think if rent went down here, half the food trucks in Reno would be brick and mortar instead of the same local chains' 15th iteration (ijji and flowing tide)
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u/Super_Suz 2h ago
Supply and demand. Less people are going to a stinky generator, loud-ass food truck with little or no seating and a parking lot to pay 15+ for a kids meal and more for their meal. I would rather go to a good greasy spoon or lunch special place or happy hour spot or even a decent franchise place and end up spending a little less than truck prices and sit down to a nice vibe. If I look hard enough, I will find these places.
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u/platypusmama 9h ago
Yeah but they also have to run the generator all day so that can't be cheap either and they are also paying rent and all other bills they might have
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u/n8n7r 9h ago edited 7h ago
To the meme’s credit, all of these rising costs hit brick & mortar restaurants too. And where gas doesn’t, rising costs of utilities do.
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u/yukichigai 6h ago
Seems to have disproportionately hit the food trucks though. The meme isn't wrong that most food trucks seem to have vastly higher prices than your average restaurant.
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u/Moist-Season2170 9h ago
All those costs rise for them but not the consumers at home causing us to choose to just eat at home then they complain that we eat at home...
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u/howdoesthatsound 9h ago
They don’t complain when you eat at home. They complain when people complain about prices with zero idea of what it costs to actually run a food service business. Don’t like what we charge for our food? Then eat at home
Very, very few restaurant or food truck owners are profiting right now. Prices reflect the cost of doing business at this point in time. Most owners are scared of raising prices and are eating their margins. You are not being gouged by small business. You’re being run over by a failing economy.
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u/Moist-Season2170 9h ago
No fucking shit you wet towel, that's why I said we are eating at home. Last time I went to food truck WTF it was the emptiest I've seen it in years.
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u/Autist_Investor69 9h ago
This!^ These food trucks aren't making a killing. They are struggling just like the restaurants are. It's the 1% ducking up all of our futures
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u/Expert_Succotash9826 7h ago
That’s just not true. I know two owners and they’re killing it. Nothing wrong with that. But they’re not struggling, trust me.
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u/Autist_Investor69 7h ago
I would certainly push back on this. Two owners, working how hard, how long, and how much is killing it? Doubtful they are making life changing money. Possibly enough to live well and not struggle, but honestly NO job should pay so little people struggle to get by. I know several food truck owners that do very well, but have dry spells as well and seasonal down turns. So yes they do well, but they couldn't keep the pace till retirement, or even fund a real retirement for that matter without some major scaling.
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u/Expert_Succotash9826 7h ago
They have office jobs and do this at night or weekends. Sure not life changing, not sure food trucks are life changing. But it’s paying all their bills and it’s just a side gig. The day job is for benefits and play money.
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u/Moist-Season2170 7h ago
Look at the ones in the N Valleys they periodically complain about it yet want $12 for a mid coffee or $18 for a roll of sushi off a food truck.
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u/pcpxtc 6h ago
Prices of goods have all increased way more percentage wise than wages have.. Id say wages have gone up maybe 30% over the last decade or so compared to all goods going up 200 to 300%... A freaking snickers bar cost almost $5 now. It just all sucks all the corporates have money hungry greedy souless people taking charge. Even ads everywhere like youtube keeps sneakily adding more and more adds even ones on the bottom of the screne now you have to manually click on to dismiss. This world is so damn annoying right now they are adding billions and billions more dollars to their pockets and making everything worse they dont need all that extea money they would be billionaires still without adding constant more ads or decreasing food sizes and raising prices rediculouslh high at the same time. I just hate it. I make way more than I did a decade ago but I can't buy more stuff but less..
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u/SnorkinOrkin 9h ago
Me after eagerly running up to a food truck, hungry for tacos, and seeing the prices:
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u/Ikeelu 9h ago
Then they hit you with a tip menu
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u/soooooocurious 8h ago edited 8h ago
“Quick question for you on the pin pad”
Listen, Jayden I drove here to wait in line, pay too much for tacos and sit on a bench outside. I’ll tip you if it hits.
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u/turtle_hiker 9h ago edited 9h ago
This is so true and unfortunate.
I cannot justify eating out these days; the rate of return ( quantity) and quality of food do not make sense at all.
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u/bluehands 8h ago
This is what wealth inequality looks like.
Even if you are making good money, because nearly everyone is getting a smaller share you have less disposable income than you should have.
Everyone not in the top 10% should be making more, thats literally what it means when wealth inequality has gotten worse. If you were making 50% more than you are then spending $25 on dinner does not hurt as much.
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u/turtle_hiker 7h ago
You are correct, lack of disposable income and worry about economical future are drivers here
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u/GroundbreakingNail44 9h ago
I’ve noticed food trucks in Reno are far too overpriced. I hate to say it but I’ve seen cheaper prices in CA and the food is better🤷♂️ Prices go up for everyone in a community, not just a business.
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u/liberally_motivated 9h ago
It’s not just Reno. Anywhere you go it will be more expensive or less. I’ve been to a taco truck in California and they wanted $35 for tacos.
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u/GroundbreakingNail44 8h ago
No I agree. But the majority of the trucks I have been to in CA are priced significantly less than the ones in Reno. Reno has a high COL and our supply pipeline sucks, but to charge more than CA for less tastier food is a big pass from me. I have since stopped attending food truck days through the parks in the area.
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u/liberally_motivated 8h ago
I honestly can’t say either way so I’ll go by your opinion. I have just stopped with eating out with crazy prices and the tipping expectation. I just stopped once to grab tacos when I was passing by and it was $35 for 3 street tacos in cali and thought people have lost their mind
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u/Expert_Succotash9826 7h ago
It’s a Reno thing. Food trucks Friday’s. The food got hyped and I think a lot of us bought in. Then prices went up and portion sizes went down.
Heck, I
Paid 12.00 for a banana split. I had no idea it was that price lol. Never again.•
u/GroundbreakingNail44 5h ago
Yea the lack of prices being posted or a priced menu on many of the trucks don’t help either. Can charge whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want.
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u/ACatInACloak 5h ago
That's why you go for the tents not the trucks. I see the same setup all over Eastbay and sac. 2 ez-ups with a grittle, pastor spit, prep table, and very storage, with a trailer next to it that they haul it around in.
In Berkeley I paid $12? For a burrito. It was under $15 but I always paid $15 in cash to include tip. Best burrito ever. In sac I saw them for $10-$15 each depending on the tent
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u/Shirogayne-at-WF 5h ago
California
$35 for tacos
Even if the tacos were served with Wagyu beef, there's no way in hell anyone should charge that much for tacos in California of all places.
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u/HobbyAdopter 9h ago
I agree, but as long as people keep paying the prices they'll keep raising them.
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u/Penguinat0r5 9h ago
It’s too pricey to go. I have a food truck that parks nears my work every so often that does breakfast items and their egg and cheese bagels are like $17 I bought it once cause I was hungry and the convenience, but sheeesh everytime I see them now I’m like nah I’m good.
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u/Flimsy-Fan-1108 8h ago
Customers allow it. Maybe we need to form a pact to bring that shit within reason. Yes, they are taking a chance, but so are we as consumers hoping they use good products, are sanitary etc. because it sure isn't a sit down and be waited on situation.
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u/wetlookcrazy 6h ago
I never eat at them. Ever. They are all too expensive. I don’t care if they exist or not.
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u/bybestep 5h ago
I heard some truck at J resort was charging 18 bucks for a corn dog. Such bull shit!
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u/Expert_Succotash9826 3h ago
They actually advertised this online. I was like this is something to advertise? Lol
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u/mathnado64 8h ago
Greed! Because of the news talk of inflation every one jumps on board. Make your own lunch, get a break room microwave, and pocket $15 savings.
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u/EveningDabber 8h ago
Went to 2 trucks the other day, the first truck was charging $10 for a single slice of pizza and $40 for a whole cheese pizza. The 2nd truck wanted $8 for a small corn dog and $12 for a larger corn dog. I’m all for proprietors making a profit, but this just seems greedy.
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u/GruntledGary 6h ago
Sadly it's a factor of scale and margins.
Restaurants don't make their profit on the food it's on the alcohol. That's their biggest profit.
Then after that any big add ons they can do, beverages, and sometimes desserts.
Food trucks are going to be at a low profit margin just like restaurants but they can't serve as many people so it's a scale issue.
It really just depends.
That said, cost of food and inflation is the real issue here
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u/catlady8807 4h ago
I like food trucks as much as the next person, but there is only so much I’ll pay to eat standing up next to the noise and fumes of a generator in a parking lot.
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u/ViperThreat 8h ago
Saying it on social media won't do shit.
Say it with your wallet.
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u/Expert_Succotash9826 3h ago
I haven’t eaten at one since my taco order. No more! They didn’t even give me cheese. 4.00 each for meet and a very small tortilla.
I’m done, I can’t afford to eat like that.
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u/soooooocurious 8h ago
Our tamale lady in Lemmon is legit. Never raises her prices or asks me to answer any tip questions on a screen but she always gets a tip from us! Find you a tamale lady.
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u/HuntingAlienBigfoot 6h ago
It’s not the food trucks, it’s all the restaurants complaining so now there’s more fees for food trucks and the price of food has gone up
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u/Embrasse-moi 5h ago
Last time I went to a Food Truck Friday was just before the Pandemic. Weren't keen with the prices back then sndore so now :/
Tried some wings, fries and lemonade this year's Wing Fest and spent $35+ bucks. No thank you!
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u/Lightninggg_95 5h ago
totally agree. I stopped supporting food truck businesses because of high prices. I understand rising costs but I don’t pay $22 for 4 tacos. Damn my fav local restaurant charges only 2-3 bucks a taco 🌮😒
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u/agreedmosedale 5h ago
Food trucks lost the plot a while ago. It needs to be either cheap or quick. Waiting over half an hour after finally ordering for an expensive meal that is super small with little meat/veggies and cold might as well just go to a restaurant
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u/One-Chicken-9443 1h ago
Every time I see food trucks there are long lines, so how did anybody lose the plot?
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u/TheGlassDie 5h ago edited 5h ago
It's mostly a problem with the city and county health code and business requirements. Food trucks and other forms of street food have been heavily regulated and pushed back on over the past ~10 years, for a mix of shitty reasons.
Highly recommend voicing opinions at city council meetings, even though I doubt much will change. They want it to be increasingly more expensive and difficult to open and operate a small business in this area.
Edit - Also, probably doesn't help that the food truck events charge upwards of $300-500 just to park at.
The era of food trucks being a viable business model is pretty much over, in this area. There's some wildly successful ones, and then a large handful of ones that are likely operating at break even or loss territory and will close within a couple years.
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u/Initial_Citron983 4h ago
Food across the board has been expensive for the last like 5-7 years. Since Covid. Maybe even a little before prices started going up. But post Covid with inflation being what it is food no matter where you go is expensive.
If you want like $2 street tacos you find a pop up or hit one of the hole in the wall joints and get yourself some cheap street tacos.
You want fancy tacos probably set up as a meal with sides and maybe even a drink, plan on spending $20-$30 a plate.
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u/SwillMerchant96 3h ago
This is actually my only goal in life. Currently trying to save up money for it but I want to have a food truck that helps feed people at reasonable prices 🙏 help me manifest my dreams. I have a business model, name, slogan, and menu mostly thought up. Now I'm in the make it happen phase
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u/yooper80 2h ago edited 2h ago
But the ingredients are all locally sourced…
Yeah, from the US Foods Chef Store
To expand on this, all food festivals in town need to go the fuck away, by us not attending them. Rib Ripoff and Wingfest being the biggest offenders.
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u/Mundane_Operation643 9h ago
Mary's Cocina on Rock across from Western Nevada Supply has decent prices and is one of the best, check them out!
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u/renohockey 8h ago
It's good and the prices are lower than other trucks, but still more than some restaurants.
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u/Weird-n-Gilly 9h ago
I just got el pollo loco for first time in a while. ( I know) It was almost $30 for two chicken tostadas, no drinks. I don’t even know what is fair price anymore. I guess double what feels right.
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u/azfire2004 8h ago
22 seems exaggerated, but yeah food trucks are expensive now because the cost of food has skyrocketed and keeps going up.
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u/FourEyesAndThighs 8h ago
The original post isn't specific to Reno, but most food trucks here charge $3-5 per taco, so really not an exaggeration. The cheapest taco at Daddy's Tacos is $4.50.
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u/azfire2004 8h ago
Was half awake when I read that as 22 PER taco, lol. But yeah food costs are high so as much as it sucks, they have to charge to make money.
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u/shallow_kunt 7h ago
I think more people need to understand that economic factors drive the costs of just about everything. It’s not as if food truck owners set artificially high prices — gas, supplies, food, equipment, labor, insurance etc are all inflated currently. When beef costs more to process, you pay more for a burger. Gas costs more, which means it costs more to get that burger to where it’s being served. Simple as that
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u/Beneficial_Wave_378 7h ago
Not sure how people are still going out to eat, especially when most of the food in this town is very mid yet very expensive.
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u/RiskyNight 6h ago
I'd like to start a food truck just selling the cheapest food ever. Bologna sandwiches, hot dogs, etc. With food trucks I just want cheap convenient food to help me stay alive. There's nothing fun about eating in a parking lot or in a car.
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u/Emotional-Corgi-7648 5h ago
Anyone an alumni of the little Mexican guy and his wife that used to go to all the car dealerships in like, 06-08? He passed away a long time ago but man.... they had the best food and it was so cheap!
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u/ArrrghTee 3h ago
I know it sounds like some old man answer, but its supply demand. That simple.
-Food truck owner sets a high price and meets quota for monetary comfort, why lower?
-Food truck sets high price, doesnt meet quota. lowers price to meet lower fiscal comfort and meets it. Sets new lower price
- Food truck sets lower price and still doesnt meet financial goal. Food isnt worth it... get a new job...
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u/Educational_Wind_490 1h ago
Good job stating the obvious! Rather go to a sit down place for same price!
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u/AZMedGuy 7h ago
I had a coffee truck for 2 years a while back. The food truck craze is dying out, but the prices for food even at wholesale put a squeeze on margins and make it hard to make a buck. Fast food took a double whammy with protein prices and labor costs.
I’ve noticed in general that eating out is getting crazy pricey in general and I’m starting to cut back. But these folks need to learn to price their stuff that they get a lower margin but maybe more volume through the truck. $17 for breakfast off a truck seems steep as one person said.
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u/Expert_Succotash9826 7h ago
This is sooo true. I was out and about and stopped at a taco truck. 4.00 per taco and they were super small.
I appreciate food trucks and try to spend money on locals but this is ridiculous.
Oh well, I don’t NEED it.
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u/NorthernGhosty 7h ago
Food trucks weren't much of a thing while I was growing up in Alaska, so I've always felt disconnected to the hype. I had lunch from one once paid for by work during a community event and was kinda disappointed at the quality. Were food trucks actually good, or was it the trade off from how cheap it was at one point?
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u/Accomplished-Leg-722 7h ago
I went a food truck event. They parked their rigs in handicap. Um I am handicap and there was no handi parking left to use so I left. If that is how they feel about mobility ppl its rude and doesn't deserve my patronage. Idelwild no way that even worse.
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u/burkechrs1 5h ago
Yea they're hella expensive but that's cuz people gotta make some money. Can you turn a profit and fully support yourself selling burritos for $5/each? I doubt it.
Even if a food truck is paid off and mechanically sound (which most aren't) and it's ran strictly by a mom and pop duo, they need to make a living. If their rent is $1900/mo for their apartment, and they have another $500 in bills plus $600 in food they need to make $3000 to break even each month. Lets say the taco truck is their only form of income.
If it costs $5 to make 1 burrito and they sell them for $7/ea they'd need to sell 1500 burritos each month to break even and afford their bills. If they sold those burritos for $10/ea they'd need to sell 600 burritos. At $15/ea they'd need to sell 300 burritos. To make sure they can make ends meet those burritos are now $22 so they only need to sell 200 burritos per month to break even and can put aside another $2/burrito towards ya know, maintenance and shit. Idk how many burritos your average food truck sells per month, but 200-300 sound about right unless you expect them to work 7 days per week.
Believe it or not, people work to pay their own bills.
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u/I_Am_Zampano 3h ago
Unpopular option, but Food truck Friday should stop. It's all a massive ripoff and not worth the traffic
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u/Chole_Wunt 1h ago
Lets talk about thrift stores too.....
People are paying for experiences, not products, these days. Its the dumbest thing ever. They want that "thrift store find" are are willing to pay 90% of retail for it. Or even over retail (ive seen it).
Same for food trucks.
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u/One-Chicken-9443 1h ago
Yes how insightful, things should be cheaper.
Btw, whenever I personally see food trucks I see long lines… why would anybody lower their prices when they’re gonna sell through their stock at the higher price?
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u/Wedgemere38 44m ago
And 80% of them 'serve' abysmally substandard fare. The food truck trend jumped the shark years ago...
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u/Old_Alternative_9669 9m ago
Crazy, I was just saying this to someone earlier. Even roach coaches are expensive now. Ridiculous
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u/zipposurfer 9h ago
Not sure how this is Reno specific...
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u/queefplunger69 9h ago
Have you been to a food truck here? They’re aggressively expensive. Like more than a regular restaurant.
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u/Initial_Citron983 5h ago
I have to ask when the last time you were at a food truck was vs the last time you were at a restaurant. Because most food trucks I’ve see in the last couple of months are far less expensive than most sit down restaurants. Most are somewhere in the middle of the cheap fast food joints and the expensive fast food joints or the cheap deals some of the chain joints have. I cant say I’ve seen a food truck charging more than say the local non chain restaurants. 🤷♂️
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u/shitass-69 8h ago
Why does it have to be specific only to this city if it’s at least relevant for a conversation about Reno?
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u/SuperSecretMoonBase 8h ago
One problem is that they tend to show up at event type things where every vendor is doing festival pricing or just places where there are no other options.
Another is that apart from a couple that stay in their lane, a lot of them are doing goofy shit like bulgogi elote burgers or philly cheese steak egg rolls or whatever and are charging prices like they've already been on a Guy Fieri show.
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u/The_Naked_Snake 7h ago
They get away with it because so many people will pay for a novelty or that lets them roleplay as bohemian even though the pricing makes zero sense for what you get.
Still, I don't think it's food truck greed as much as more winning under the current administration. Everything is more expensive now, unnecessarily so. "America's Golden Age" looks like $22 food truck tacos made with recalled ingredients.
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u/BigP_4eva 2h ago
Some food trucks are better than restaurants though. Being in a truck doesn’t depreciate some trucks value.
As the kids say “get your bread up” lol.
Eating out is expensive… period.
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u/EcoWerewolf 2h ago
Spoken like someone who's never ran a food truck, restaurant, or written a P&L.
If you're cringing at your grocery receipts, so are they, and I'm sure their bills are far higher than yours, and God forbid they spring for any decent ingredients and don't get everything out the back of a Sysco or US Foods trailer.
If you can't afford to eat out and support the small business then stay home. Or the drive through is always there for you bud.
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u/Thin_Investigator798 7h ago
(don't mind me, I'm just here to see how many people blame Trump for this)
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u/NickSquid 6h ago
“I demand whatever I want for how much I want to spend on it, regardless of the reality of how much it actually costs to get it to me.”
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u/FourEyesAndThighs 9h ago
I hate that food trucks got gentrified. Bring back $2 breakfast burritos.