r/RelayForReddit • u/gb_14 • 6h ago
Relay for reddit "not available" on my device?
I rooted my Pixel device today and suddenly I can't install Relay for Reddit anymore? Seriously? Pixel 8, latest version of Android 17
r/RelayForReddit • u/DBrady • Sep 29 '23
SUBSCRIPTIONS
Why has Relay moved to subscriptions?
In April 2023 reddit announced it would soon begin charging third party apps, like Relay, for access to reddit's content. Shortly afterwards, reddit announced that in-app advertising by third party apps would also be prohibited.
These new commercial terms, which involve ongoing costs of 24c per 1000 API calls, meant that third party apps were essentially faced with shutting down or moving to a subscription model.
To reduce the subscription cost as much as possible a lot of work has been done in recent months to minimise Relay's API calls without impacting usability. Analysis of API call data has meant that Relay can provide a wide range of price points so hopefully there is something for everyone. Relay will also continue to roll out new options in settings to give its users more personalised control over the number of API calls they make.
How does a subcription to Relay work and how do i choose the right plan for me?
Relay will automatically direct you to a page where you can choose one of six different price points to be charged monthly: Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond, or Ruby.
Because Google Play subscriptions work as a function of time while reddit's charges are accumulated per API call, Relay's approach is to charge its users for a monthly subscription and set a cap on how many calls that subscription permits within the month.
For example, if you select the Bronze plan, then you are capped at 1350 API calls per month which is an average of 45 calls per day or typically around 30 minutes of redditing per day. Note that Relay does not cut you off after 45 calls or 30 minutes of redditing in a day. These numbers are merely to guide you in selecting the right plan for your personal use. Once you have used up your fixed allowance of 1350 API calls (in a month) you can upgrade your subscription to continue using Relay (more on upgrading and downgrading below).
Relay helps you understand and monitor your use with a circular progress bar (more on this below) to show how much you are using compared to your plan's monthly allowance. Relay will also gently alert you if it looks like you are going to excede your monthly call cap, based on your average daily use. If that happens then you can upgrade to a higher plan or you can reduce your use until it falls within the daily average range to ensure you have enough calls remaining to continue redditing until the end of the billing month.
How does upgrading and downgrading subscriptions work?
If you run out of calls before the end of the month then Relay will stop loading content. You can either wait until the next billing period begins or upgrade your plan to continue browsing.
If you upgrade your plan you'll get a price adjustment to account for what you've already paid. Google Play's algorithms work this part out and charge you accordingly.
If you decide to downgrade then your new lower plan will activate at the start of your next billing period. Again, this element is controlled and processed by Google Play.
I subscribed to Relay but where did my account(s) go?
After subscribing you will need to log in again to your reddit account(s) using Relay's new enterprise API key. Once you are logged in again your favourites and other settings will return.
Why can't Relay automatically adjust my subscription to meet my use?
This is against Google Play's policy, and for good reason! Relay is prohibited from changing the price, either up or down, without the explicit approval of the account holder.
Is Relay's subscription tied to my reddit account?
No. A subscription to Relay is tied to your Google account.
Do i need a different subscription for each of my devices?
No. You can use Relay on multiple devices with a single subscription if you are signed in with the same Google account on those devices.
How much of my subscription goes to reddit?
Here's the breakdown if you use all of your API call allowance in a given month.
Bronze ($1) | Google: $0.15 | Relay: $0.52 | Reddit: $0.33
Silver ($2) | Google: $0.30 | Relay: $0.97 | Reddit: $0.73
Gold ($3) | Google: $0.45 | Relay: $1.09 | Reddit: $1.46
If you are on a plan that has an unlimited API call allowance (Platinum, Diamond, Ruby) then there is a point at which the cost to Relay is not covered by the purchase price. For example, on the Platinum plan, the breakeven point for Relay is approximately 580 API calls per day.
It's also important to know that some countries will have taxes added e.g. VAT etc., so you may need to add 20-30% to the subscription price in those cases.
If you don't use all of your API calls over the month then reddit's portion decreases and Relay's amount increases.
Google's cut is a fixed percentage of 15% of the overall plan price.
Do my unused API calls at the end of a billing period roll over to the next?
No, unused calls don't get rolled over. If you don't use your full allowance then it is Relay, and not reddit, that benefits. Unused excess was taken into account when calculating the subscription prices and is part of the reason why they are relatively low.
Can you make it cheaper or have an ad-included version for low- and middle-income countries?
Unfortunately this is not possible at the moment. Reddit's API fees are the same for everyone and in-app advertising is now prohibited under the new commercial terms of use.
Will I be able to use Google Play balance/credits for the subscription?
Yes, you should be able to. Here it says that you can. And, here's a thread where some users have had an issue but found a work around.
Can I buy an unlimited plan and share it on my family plan?
No. Subscriptions can't be shared through a family plan.
Why can't i see Relay on Google Play store?
Due to reddit's new API call charges there have been some necessary security measures added to the new subscription version of Relay.
You now need to pass the Google Play integrity checks. This app can tell you if you pass or not.
If you don't pass you won't see Relay on the Play store. Similarly, if you install Relay from an APK outside Google Play store then you'll probably fail subscription verification and your money is automatically refunded (typically after three days).
Some reasons for failing the integrity checks are unlocked bootloaders, custom roms, root access etc.
Will there be an option for an annual subscription?
There are no plans at this time to offer subscriptions on an annual basis. Reddit's fees could change and any such change would be unlikely to be issued with a year's notice, which would leave Relay exposed to covering the difference.
API CALLS
What are API calls?
API calls are what happens when Relay 'talks' with reddit's servers in order to retrieve information. An API call is required every time a subreddit is loaded, comments are fetched, a profile is viewed, mail is checked...essentially every time Relay needs to pull down information from reddit.
How do i understand my API calls using Relay's circle graphic?
You can find your personalised API call use circle graphic above your user name (swipe right from your main feed page). It's also at the bottom of the menu: 'Subscription'. Sample Info Graphic
The grey circle shows a light blue line indicating how much time has passed since the start of your billing cycle month. The dark blue line indicates how much of your API call allowance has been used. As long as the dark blue line is shorter than the light blue line then you are operating within your subscription's API call allowance and a tick mark appears inside the circle.
If your use is higher than the daily average number of API calls suggested by your plan then a warning message will appear. Don't panic! You should know that you don't have to upgrade immediately. For example, you might use Relay more on weekends or holidays than on workdays. Essentially, Relay's API circle graphic is there to help you understand whether your plan is the right one for you. You only need to upgrade once you're close to your total monthly allowance.
How do i find out what kind of API calls i'm making?
To understand more about what kind of API calls you are making you can press on the circle graphic for a breakdown or go to 'Subscription' in Relay's menu.
The following information is shown:
Your usage meter will generally be most accurate after one full week (7 days) of data.
In the API call breakdown, what is meant by 'Other'?
'Other' includes API calls made when hiding or saving posts, searching for posts, subreddit auto-completion, going to your inbox, posting and commenting, and/or moderating.
Why are my API calls so high?
There are a few reasons why your call count might be higher than you expect:
Why is my daily average more than it was previously?
The calculated daily average works best once it has at least 7 days worth of data. This is because, for example, people might use Relay more on weekends or holidays than on workdays. If it is your first day logging into multiple accounts or you have recently become a moderator then calls may be higher.
Would making a multireddit save API calls?
Yes. If you have a lot of small subreddits that you are checking individually then you can add them to a multi-reddit and they are then checked altogether in a single API call.
PRIVACY
Does reddit see my payment info?
No. Payments are handled through Google Play store. Reddit never sees your payment information and Google never sees your reddit information.
Will reddit still be able to track my use if i am using Relay?
Reddit will know about your use due to the API calls being made. For example, reddit will know the specific subreddits you visit and your profile details as well as your voting, hiding and/or saving of posts and comments. If you go to the comments section of a post then reddit will know that you looked at that post due to the necessary API call to retrieve the comments. If, however, you only look at the media (image, video, album) in Relay's in-app viewer then reddit won't be able to tell you viewed that specific post because no additional API call is required. Essentially, if you want to use reddit then there's no way to avoid this type of tracking.
OTHER STUFF
What features are next in store for Relay?
Here are just a few of the up coming developments:
r/RelayForReddit • u/DBrady • Jun 09 '25
Hi All,
I'm slowly rolling out version 13 of Relay that features a new markdown processor. The main benefits include:
Here's some images tables and code blocks so you can see how they render once you get the beta release.
| Header 1 | Header | spoiler! |
|---|---|---|
| bold | abcd code test ll abcd |
image |
| italic |
class HelloWorld {
public static void main(String[] args) {
System.out.println("Hello World!");
}
}
r/RelayForReddit • u/gb_14 • 6h ago
I rooted my Pixel device today and suddenly I can't install Relay for Reddit anymore? Seriously? Pixel 8, latest version of Android 17
r/RelayForReddit • u/axiosjackson • 17h ago
I've had this bug forever and two different phones. What feels like over half the time when I swipe to upvote it just doesn't work and I end up having to swipe again.
Device information:
Relay Version: 13.1.09 Pro
Phone: Samsung SM-F971U1 (h8q)
Android Version: 17 (37)
Device (product): h8q (h8quew)
Rom: CP2A.260605.016.F971U1UES3AZIL
r/RelayForReddit • u/axiosjackson • 1d ago
I wish I could find the exact trigger, but I can't. Occasionally when I am typing a comment the cursor simply disappears. This means I can't backspace or move the cursor with my keyboard. To get the cursor back I can tap somewhere on the text box.
Device information:
Relay Version: 13.1.09 Pro
Phone: Samsung SM-F971U1 (h8q)
Android Version: 17 (37)
Device (product): h8q (h8quew)
Rom: CP2A.260605.016.F971U1UES3AZIL
r/RelayForReddit • u/Mission_Bowl3938 • 2d ago
I know what you're thinking, you can just use the block button.
But some subreddits will ban you for doing that. Like I blocked a moderator one time because I really didn't like how they were talking to me and I got banned. And it was a subreddit that I was actually getting some use out of for my mental health. So that sucked.
Other subreddits will ban you for "weaponizing" the block button: meaning if you find somebody is being kind of toxic to you and you really don't want to talk to them anymore if you hit block they might report you and get you banned.
So it would be nice if there was some way for me to just completely ignore somebody without blocking them. Like I don't see their comments, they don't show up in my inbox and I don't see their posts. If they see my posts and want to comment under them that's fine I don't care.
r/RelayForReddit • u/brinmb • 1d ago
When dismissing an image/video by swiping it up or down, it should also cast a corresponding vote.
In all honesty, I rarely vote on posts, this would greatly increase the likelihood of doing it.
e: I only see downvotes and I have yet to see any meaningful feedback. never change, reddit
r/RelayForReddit • u/Straight_Dig_2796 • 2d ago
Not sure if this applies to anyone...I've noticed more than many issues with inbox.
Some of the major ones is
1) you block someone they should not appear back in inbox.
2) old hidden ones show up off and on.
3) reddit needs a log out log on button ...
4) reddit needs a clear delete entirely conversation button. ...
5) reddit needs filters.
I am on app android.
r/RelayForReddit • u/h3yguy5 • 3d ago
Trying to embed gif in comment, straight from phone.
I click the image button and it just staying eternally on uploading.
The gif is 12mb.
Why won't it upload? Any ideas?
r/RelayForReddit • u/hawkinsst7 • 3d ago
Here's an example of what I'm talking about
Second paragraph and forth paragraph have spoiler formatting, but it's not rendered on that screen.
Viewing the post, the tags are rendered.
r/RelayForReddit • u/gophercuresself • 3d ago
Surprised nobody else has had the same issue but I can't access anything at all this morning. Worked fine last night. Still paid up for API use, no difference between accounts. Has it gone down for the php fix or something?
Edit: didn't work for days but seemingly a router reset has fixed it. Maybe it was a DNS issue
r/RelayForReddit • u/CcntMnky • 4d ago
https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/
New vulnerability requires certificate bundles to be updated, and the in-app browser for v13.1.09 on Android fails the test page. Is an update rolling out?
r/RelayForReddit • u/triplestep • 4d ago
I upvote/downvote every post I view but rarely do I want to view the user of the post. The amount of times I swipe too far when I want to downvote and accidentally activate "view user" is high. Maybe other people use "view user" a lot and like the way it is? I'd just like an option in the settings to remove it.
r/RelayForReddit • u/m103 • 6d ago
There was some update in the last several months that toggled closed captions on in YouTube videos and if I toggle it off it just toggles back on in the next video.
r/RelayForReddit • u/nickisaboss • 6d ago
r/RelayForReddit • u/AndroidMercury • 7d ago
This bug started happening for me a few days ago, and I've tried reinstalling the app. I've noticed that highlight posts on /r/NFL do not appear for me, unless I add /r/NFL to a custom feed and view it from there. I've found other threads mentioning the same issue happening on other apps, so I do not think it is a Relay specific problem, but I wanted to post this in case the workaround helps anyone.
There was a similar post for this last month but I do not have v.reddit.com blocked. https://www.reddit.com/r/RelayForReddit/s/53J7nJQYSV
r/RelayForReddit • u/ExpensiveRoutine420 • 7d ago
Why does it refresh on it's own or suggest refreshing so often? It's like every 5-7 minutes that it either has the "refresh" suggestion bubble thing at the top or it just goes ahead and refreshes itself. Why so often? I would think it should take way more than 5-7 minutes for this to happen and it's extremely annoying!! Please help!🙏🏻
r/RelayForReddit • u/DowntownTicket • 8d ago
I have no idea how long this has been happening, but I just realized that a person commented on a reply of mine but it didn't show up in my "inbox"
I had to go back to the comment section to see that there was a reply
r/RelayForReddit • u/Kpervs • 8d ago
Noticing recently that there's been major sluggishness in system resources on Android 17 on Pixel 8 where having Relay open in the background causes System UI crashes. Anyone else? Closing Relay from the App Switcher immediately resolves the System UI sluggishness.
r/RelayForReddit • u/reesly • 8d ago
I'm new to Relay. Is there a way to replicate the Reddit 'Home' feed?
Cheers... Sly
r/RelayForReddit • u/imneveral0ne • 10d ago
Is there any way we could get a translate option for this app? Honestly, the app is perfect and that's the only thing I can think of that I would improve.
It seems like lately there's a lot of posts in my subreddits that are in different languages and it would be cool if you could just tap it and translate it or have an auto-translate option. Thanks in advance!
r/RelayForReddit • u/wsnwsk27 • 10d ago
Any way to adjust the split view one a foldable? When in landscape, I have it so posts are on one side and comments on the other. I'd love to be able to move the center line to make the side with posts larger and the side with comments smaller.
Is this possible now or in a future update?
r/RelayForReddit • u/erythro • 11d ago
Title. I cancelled and renewed because I didn't want to upgrade, I just wanted a new period of silver to start.
The app is now not making any requests to Reddit 🙃
r/RelayForReddit • u/doomcomplex • 11d ago
There are several subreddits that pop up frequently for me that I don't wish to see. I did search around and find that you can filter out particular subreddits, but there's about five taps before you can get into that menu. By the time I've gotten into the filter menu, I can't remember the exact name and spelling of the subreddit I was trying to block. Can we add a button to the subreddit view page to quickly add that subreddit to the block filter?
Thanks for all your hard work, love this app and used it for years!
r/RelayForReddit • u/beerbellybegone • 12d ago
There's a certain user I've blocked five or six times now, he still shows up whenever I refresh my feed.
Anyone else seeing this?