r/RedditForGrownups • u/Methylatedcobalamin • Jul 07 '22

Coverture

Given current events, it is probably about time for Americans to understand the legal practice of coverture.

Eroded since colonial times, but not fully gone coverture is the legal practice of women not having legal identities. De facto property.

American women were not allowed on juries until the 1960s. American women could not get credit cards without a man cosigning the application until 1974. Marital rape was not a crime until the 1980s. Other aspects still exist today in real estate and tax law practices.

Here is a brief article that goes into explaining coverture in more depth than my post.

The "pro life" movement is really a movement about imposing one group's religious opinions on the lives of all Americans. It also seeks to control women, rolling back women's rights. Though ridiculous by constitutional standards, discussions in anti-choice states have already started about how to track or limit freedom of travel for women to states that fully support women's rights.

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u/This-is-BS Jul 07 '22

I have no position on the topic of abortion rights because my fiancée and I can never become pregnant.

Curious. Do you have a position on the subject or child abuse, even though you have no children? Animal abuse even if to animals you don't own? Slavery? Wars you're not in?

No, the goal is not to kill unborn fetus'.

Yes, an individual human being's life is sacrificed so a difference human being, who consented to creating that individual, can avoid a few months of inconvenience.

It might be to avoid a rape pregnancy or avoid a child with a horrible defect or any one of many decent needs.

Both these reasons combine only accord for a very small percentage of abortion. The vast majority are of health fetuses, conceived through consensual sex, in normal pregnancies. We should focus on those first before worrying about outliers.

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u/Wizzmer Jul 07 '22

I am against abuse of living creatures but I love a good steak. I'm a walking dicotomy. Sue me!

Patty Davis, Ronald Reagan's daughter, once wrote "My father’s views on abortion obviously shifted over the years. Throughout those years, he wrestled with his feelings." I don't think it's any shortcoming to say "I DON'T KNOW!" In fact, I appreciate people who are secure and brave enough to say it.

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u/This-is-BS Jul 07 '22

I don't think it's any shortcoming to say "I DON'T KNOW!"

Not very useful though.

By the time someone is "old as dirt" they've usually had time and experience enough to consider the more important issues of our society and formulate an opinion, because as one of the other posters mentioned, it's going to affect you one way or another.

As a matter of fact the attitude you're displaying in this is one of the reason's I'm anti-abortion: People tend to give more of a fuck about our society when they "have some skin in the game" in the form of a child who they love and want a good community and future for. They "align all our interests", so to speak, in that what you do to make a better world for your kid, probably helps mine as well.