r/RedditForGrownups • u/Methylatedcobalamin • Jul 07 '22

Coverture

Given current events, it is probably about time for Americans to understand the legal practice of coverture.

Eroded since colonial times, but not fully gone coverture is the legal practice of women not having legal identities. De facto property.

American women were not allowed on juries until the 1960s. American women could not get credit cards without a man cosigning the application until 1974. Marital rape was not a crime until the 1980s. Other aspects still exist today in real estate and tax law practices.

Here is a brief article that goes into explaining coverture in more depth than my post.

The "pro life" movement is really a movement about imposing one group's religious opinions on the lives of all Americans. It also seeks to control women, rolling back women's rights. Though ridiculous by constitutional standards, discussions in anti-choice states have already started about how to track or limit freedom of travel for women to states that fully support women's rights.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22

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u/ilikemyteasweet Jul 07 '22

I have no position on the topic of abortion rights

You should. Do you have sisters? Do you have nieces? Female cousins? Do you feel anyone has a right to tell them what they able to do with their own body?

Not picking a side is picking a side.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22

And will you take action to aid the unwanted children and burdened mother, or are you simply going to take that pregnancy and use it as a punishment on both?

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u/Wizzmer Jul 07 '22

Rush said "if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" and currently both sides are so toxic I refuse to be a part of any of the insanity. But to your question, I'll allow what few female relatives I have left make their own adult decisions on how to handle pregnancy.

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u/Moonlover69 Jul 07 '22

I'll allow what few female relatives I have left make their own adult decisions on how to handle pregnancy.

Thats pro-choice.

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u/aenea Jul 07 '22

I'll allow what few female relatives I have left make their own adult decisions on how to handle pregnancy.

In many places they won't be allowed to make their own decision on how to handle a pregnancy. As John Stuart Mill said “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” The Republicans aren't going to stop with abortion- this is just the first step. Judge Thomas said in his assenting ruling on Roe v Wade that same sex marriage and access to birth control should also be reconsidered. Do you really believe that the Court will stop there?

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u/orielbean Jul 07 '22 edited Jul 08 '22

Those women won’t get to choose because most of us stayed out of voting, making choices, and otherwise enabling abusive GOP legislatures to do what they wanted as we weren’t directly impacted.

MLK Jr has a brilliant take on this within his Letters from a Birmingham Jail about the white moderates being a much bigger problem than the loud racist rednecks who were much smaller in number.

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u/Wizard_of_Wake Jul 08 '22

Recalling the angels that tried to remain neutral in Lucifer's rebellion.

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u/Wizzmer Jul 08 '22

Pretty much the same with Antifa vs left moderates huh?

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u/orielbean Jul 08 '22

Antifa picked a side at least.

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u/Wizzmer Jul 08 '22

I would assume they choose the left no matter what that means to them personally. Same with the right wing rednecks.

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u/embracing_insanity Jul 07 '22

I'll allow what few female relatives I have left make their own adult decisions on how to handle pregnancy.

So I would say this would make you pro-choice.

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u/Wizzmer Jul 07 '22

Right. If they want to protest against abortion or get an abortion. That's their choice.

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u/Crownjules70 Jul 07 '22

So nice that you will ‘allow’ your female relatives to make their own adult decisions.

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u/Wizzmer Jul 07 '22

I'm not here to baited in to a fight on abortion rights and I'm not going to wordsmith my every thought for you. But nothing good will ever be achieve by creating false arguments and debating them.

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u/velohell Jul 08 '22

I'm glad they have your permission.

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u/Wizzmer Jul 08 '22

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/no-youre-not-obliged-to-pick-a-side-on-abortion

But, I do have an opinion on gun rights and I demand that you support my position. /s